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Old 08-28-2019, 04:03 AM
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Mobil 1 ESP can no longer be used for 35d?

I have been using the Mobil 1 ESP on our X5d based on the recommendation here. I had about 5 qts left from an earlier oil change and ordered a 6 pack from ebay. The package I received from ebay has slightly different name "Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30" instead of "Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 " from my earlier stock. Also, the new one does not list approved for BMW LL-04 like the older one did? I searched and saw some discussions about it but wasn't clear if the new version isn't suitable anymore or it has just lost BMW approval? Attached are the pictures of earlier version (green cap) and the new version (grey cap) for reference.

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Old 08-28-2019, 07:08 AM
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There was a thread on this about a few months back. Mobil changed formula, itís no longer LL-04.
Same happened with their 0w40. No longer LL-01.


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Old 08-28-2019, 08:28 AM
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+1

From that thread I surmised the below and use it when I'm deciding on oil

From protection stand point VW504.00/507.00 is most stringent approval in this C3 class and MB229.51/52 most stringent from deposit and NOACK stand point.

Find one that meets all 3 of the above should be a very good oil.

So I've been grabbing either of these 2 when it is time for a change.

Valvoline Synpower MST 5W-30
Pennzoil Platinum Euro L 5W-30

163k miles and no leaks or burn so far.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:14 AM
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Thanks guys! I should've checked on here before ordering the new Mobil 1 ESP - I am now stuck with 6 qts of oil that I can't use! Does anyone still have/sell the older version? I am guessing mixing different brands is a no-no?

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Old 08-28-2019, 12:58 PM
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Thanks guys! I should've checked on here before ordering the new Mobil 1 ESP - I am now stuck with 6 qts of oil that I can't use! Does anyone still have/sell the older version? I am guessing mixing different brands is a no-no?

It still has VW and MB ratings and I'd say it is fine to use for one oil cycle.
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Old 08-29-2019, 05:52 AM
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It still has VW and MB ratings and I'd say it is fine to use for one oil cycle.
Thanks! I did find the thread you mentioned - seems like it isn't a clear choice anymore! You think it'll be ok for me to mix these two versions for this oil change? I am also just about to get out of my BMW Gold extended warranty so I am little more concerned than usual!
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:44 AM
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Thanks! I did find the thread you mentioned - seems like it isn't a clear choice anymore! You think it'll be ok for me to mix these two versions for this oil change? I am also just about to get out of my BMW Gold extended warranty so I am little more concerned than usual!
That is above my pay grade.

They are each made from a different base, but if they still can carry the VW and MB then you are probably fine for one OCI. If it were my car I'd still run in through I can't imagine that it would cause drastic life shortening events to occur.
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Old 09-01-2019, 03:17 AM
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That is above my pay grade.

They are each made from a different base, but if they still can carry the VW and MB then you are probably fine for one OCI. If it were my car I'd still run in through I can't imagine that it would cause drastic life shortening events to occur.
I was able to find a few quarts of the approved LL04 version at a local advance auto store, so did not use the new version and played it safe. Will decide which oil to use going forward before the next oil change is due! Thanks for your thoughts!
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:40 AM
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Guys, using this new version is OK. BMW doesnít do certification anymore as Castrol and others are dropping it. This version isnít stout as previous one, but it is still really good oil with very low NOACK (7.3%). Is it worth price difference over Pennzoil Platinum Euro L? Highly doubt.


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I know this is a Mobil thread... but speaking of Castrol edycol... Which specific Castrol oil was originally intended for the 35d? As I'm sure you have a Castrol oil cap such as I do. Is it still a good oil or has it dropped LL-04 from it's bottle like Mobil did?
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Old 09-02-2019, 11:08 AM
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Thanks guys! I should've checked on here before ordering the new Mobil 1 ESP - I am now stuck with 6 qts of oil that I can't use! Does anyone still have/sell the older version? I am guessing mixing different brands is a no-no?
https://www.idparts.com/mobil-esp-5w...rt-p-3134.html

If you order today you can save 5% using code: LABORDAY19

Here's a list of the oils they have:

https://www.idparts.com/motor-oil-c-29_28.html

I use OE, Castrol and now using Pentosin SPIII 5W30.

Good luck.
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Thanks for the IDParts recommendation. I've used them since my 2000 TDI.
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:31 PM
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I know this is a Mobil thread... but speaking of Castrol edycol... Which specific Castrol oil was originally intended for the 35d? As I'm sure you have a Castrol oil cap such as I do. Is it still a good oil or has it dropped LL-04 from it's bottle like Mobil did?


Castrol cap us standard due to availability of Castrol in Europe. Here in the US there was Castrol 5W40 TDS and you can find still on Amazon Castrol Edge 5W30 ACEA C3. Both oils are average.


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Old 09-09-2019, 05:27 PM
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I got a whole case before they dropped the LL04 cert; should get me through a year or or year&a half. I do oil change every 5K but work from home a lot.
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