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Old 04-17-2019, 06:18 AM
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Facelifts - when do they occur?

I am curious how long after a new release (G20) does a model receives a facelift or "freshening up"? Is it usually within six months, a year or longer? I ask as I am itching to pull the trigger on a 2019 3-Series but I've always been burned in the past when they come out with a subtle facelift shortly after that makes the model I just bought already looked dated.
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Totally new BMW platforms (e.g. G20) come along about every six years. The "Life Cycle Impulse" (LCI), which is facelift of the existing platform usually comes at about the fourth year of a platform's production. LCI's typically get new bumpers and interior updates. If there are new engines and a new version of iDrive available, they usually get incorporated at the LCI.

A notable exception was the F15 X5. It was only made for five years and with no facelift. BMW did that to sync it up with the new X7, in which is shares many design aspects, and with which it is built in Spartanburg, SC.

The G20's just now starting production. I haven't seen one yet. So, if you get one now you'll have the "latest and greatest" for another six years.

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When referring to the "Life Cycle Impulse" (LCI) - I assume I should not expect any tweaks for the 2020 3-Series. I am asking as I am not a fan of the new tail lights (too Lexus for my tastes) and was wondering if I waited a year perhaps they would be tweaked?



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Totally new BMW platforms (e.g. G20) come along about every six years. The "Life Cycle Impulse" (LCI), which is facelift of the existing platform usually comes at about the fourth year of a platform's production. LCI's typically get new bumpers and interior updates. If there are new engines and a new version of iDrive available, they usually get incorporated at the LCI.

A notable exception was the F15 X5. It was only made for five years and with no facelift. BMW did that to sync it up with the new X7, in which is shares many design aspects, and with which it is built in Spartanburg, SC.

The G20's just now starting production. I haven't seen one yet. So, if you get one now you'll have the "latest and greatest" for another six years.
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LCI's are tweaks on the exterior, usually just plastic parts on the exterior (bumpers, lights, rocker panel covers below doors). Changing a metal part (door, hood, fender, etc.) is much more expensive than changing plastic parts. What you see now is pretty much what you get until probably model year 2021.
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I've always been burned in the past when they come out with a subtle facelift shortly after that makes the model I just bought already looked dated.
I wouldn't worry about that NealRobert. If the F30 LCI is any indication, the "facelift" was so minor you'd have to squint to notice any visual differences. I wouldn't be surprised if BMW takes that approach with G20.

And even if BMW decides instead to apply the G11/G12 approach and give the G20 LCI a ridiculously oversized grille (making the car uglier in general), you'll appreciate that the original G20 is better looking!
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When referring to the "Life Cycle Impulse" (LCI) - I assume I should not expect any tweaks for the 2020 3-Series. I am asking as I am not a fan of the new tail lights (too Lexus for my tastes) and was wondering if I waited a year perhaps they would be tweaked?
The taillights will not change between now and a complete redesign of the 3er in another 6 or 7 years. Personally, in the opinion of this architect, I like the G20 taillights. I will lease one next year when my 5er lease is up in May 2020. I like that the G20 is the same size as my E39 2001 530i.
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