I know you've been waiting...Dension AVR... - Bimmerfest - BMW Forums



Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 6 Series > E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)

E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-08-2011, 03:28 PM
TxTaz's Avatar
TxTaz TxTaz is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Antonio, TX
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 784
Mein Auto: 2010 650i Coupe
I know you've been waiting...Dension AVR...

Sad news. I doesn't work.
Well it does kind of. You can hear the video music but no picture and BMW says there is no way to make it work in this configuration. So that means no reversing camera either.
I'm off to try my next idea for video thanks to Nick.
__________________
Taz...
2010 E63 Black sapphire metallic
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 06-08-2011, 03:38 PM
Hossy's Avatar
Hossy Hossy is offline
Yup.
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 538
Mein Auto: Cars
__________________

Maserati GT 4.2
Range Rover 4.4
Dodge Ram 1500

PAST: ALPINA B7, e63, e39, e39, e36
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-08-2011, 03:47 PM
-Quinn- -Quinn- is offline
Registered User
Location: Bountiful Utah
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 64
Mein Auto: 2005 645CI
Damn! I was excited to see the mod, good luck in the next venture. Hoss, love the new signature picture.
__________________
Quinn
05 645 Black Sapphire Metallic.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 06-08-2011, 07:57 PM
Hossy's Avatar
Hossy Hossy is offline
Yup.
Location: Atlanta, GA
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 538
Mein Auto: Cars
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Quinn- View Post
Damn! I was excited to see the mod, good luck in the next venture. Hoss, love the new signature picture.
Thanks! It was fun. I seem to be in a pictorial mood today.
__________________

Maserati GT 4.2
Range Rover 4.4
Dodge Ram 1500

PAST: ALPINA B7, e63, e39, e39, e36
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-09-2011, 09:22 AM
castercorey castercorey is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Maryland
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 330
Mein Auto: 645ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by TxTaz View Post
Sad news. I doesn't work.
Well it does kind of. You can hear the video music but no picture and BMW says there is no way to make it work in this configuration. So that means no reversing camera either.
I'm off to try my next idea for video thanks to Nick.
So let me get this straight. You have a dension GW 500 along with the AVR and it can't display video from your ipod etc (excluding DVD's).
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
castercorey castercorey is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Maryland
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 330
Mein Auto: 645ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hossy View Post
LOL Nice pic.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-09-2011, 11:20 AM
TxTaz's Avatar
TxTaz TxTaz is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Antonio, TX
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 784
Mein Auto: 2010 650i Coupe
Quote:
Originally Posted by castercorey View Post
So let me get this straight. You have a dension GW 500 along with the AVR and it can't display video from your ipod etc (excluding DVD's).
Nope, Nada, Nothing (including DVD). It does work on EU spec cars. The reason is we don't have TV in motion like the EU cars have. Therefor nothing to over ride.
__________________
Taz...
2010 E63 Black sapphire metallic
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-09-2011, 11:50 AM
castercorey castercorey is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Maryland
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 330
Mein Auto: 645ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by TxTaz View Post
Nope, Nada, Nothing (including DVD). It does work on EU spec cars. The reason is we don't have TV in motion like the EU cars have. Therefor nothing to over ride.
well thanks for the heads up b/c i was going to buy the avr component.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-10-2011, 09:08 AM
6er 6er is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: UK
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 619
Mein Auto: 6er
Dension .... Why do American's (and to use a British saying) "Shag the arse off it"

BMW's with aftermarket Video integration are in motion as standard when fitting aftermarket AV inputs in a car without a TV tuner there is no in motion lead used.

YOU ONLY REQUIRE AN IN MOTION LEAD IF YOU HAVE A FACTORY TV TUNER.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-10-2011, 09:24 AM
TxTaz's Avatar
TxTaz TxTaz is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Antonio, TX
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 784
Mein Auto: 2010 650i Coupe
I'm not sure if I follow your entire post.
Dension AVR requires an in motion lead and factory TV tuner. US spec cars do not have these.
__________________
Taz...
2010 E63 Black sapphire metallic
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-10-2011, 07:48 PM
HerbP HerbP is offline
Super Moderator
Location: Georgia
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 6,824
Mein Auto: 05 645Ci, 14 750 M-Sport
Is there a Euro module that you could purchase, then recode for your car? I would think that if you could locate the module, it could be coded for your car. Another thought, is it possible to recode your car with NCS or Progman SSS.

Good Luck!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-11-2011, 05:47 AM
6er 6er is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: UK
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 619
Mein Auto: 6er
Quote:
Originally Posted by TxTaz View Post
I'm not sure if I follow your entire post.
Dension AVR requires an in motion lead and factory TV tuner. US spec cars do not have these.
My post basically states that all BMW's manufactured without a TV tuner do not require a video in motion lead when using an aftermarket AV input module.

By design any aftermarket AV input module for a BMW ibus or iDrive does not require it as the input will be in motion.

The Video lock of the BMW system has always been on the Tuner box not the Car system.

So only people with a factory tuner would require such a device when using the factory tuner in conjunction with an AV input module
__________________

Last edited by 6er; 06-11-2011 at 05:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-15-2012, 10:26 PM
silkoccy silkoccy is offline
Registered User
Location: florida
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 24
Mein Auto: x5
Smile Not so fast my friends"

regarding the dension AVR I have some good news.



the Dension Avr and the whole " the European spec" features means that it only requires that the tv option be coded as an option on the idrive menu ..
It's analogous to getting the car coded for MP3 by the dealer after the oem iPod kit is installed.
Since some of us prefer the dension gateway 500 over the iPod the Avr is a nice complimentary piece to it .. Giving you 2 av inputs and a dedicated rear view camera ..

Now I coded my car for the "tv option and video in motion " using the ncs expert program and I didn't have to buy a tv tuner or any video unlocking hardware

So in short a euro spec car is one with tv and video enabled on the idrive .. Which can be coded via the Autologic or the ncs expert coding program..

Here are some pics; MORE PICS TO COME
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	dension avr 1.jpg
Views:	320
Size:	147.7 KB
ID:	316830   Click image for larger version

Name:	dension avr 2.jpg
Views:	273
Size:	76.5 KB
ID:	316831   Click image for larger version

Name:	densin avr 3.jpg
Views:	161
Size:	63.8 KB
ID:	316832  
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-16-2012, 07:20 AM
tk123 tk123 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: charlotte
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 145
Mein Auto: 650 ic
where can I get this?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-16-2012, 08:04 AM
6er 6er is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: UK
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 619
Mein Auto: 6er
I'll repeat till I'm blue in the face "Dension .... Why do American's Shag the arse off it"

I don't know of an AV interface available in the UK/Euro market that don't self code cars...So much effort with the Dension...

NO UK/EURO CAR WITHOUT A TV TUNER COMES WITH THE TV ACTIVATED

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-16-2012, 08:46 AM
castercorey castercorey is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Maryland
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 330
Mein Auto: 645ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by silkoccy View Post
regarding the dension AVR I have some good news.



the Dension Avr and the whole " the European spec" features means that it only requires that the tv option be coded as an option on the idrive menu ..
It's analogous to getting the car coded for MP3 by the dealer after the oem iPod kit is installed.
Since some of us prefer the dension gateway 500 over the iPod the Avr is a nice complimentary piece to it .. Giving you 2 av inputs and a dedicated rear view camera ..

Now I coded my car for the "tv option and video in motion " using the ncs expert program and I didn't have to buy a tv tuner or any video unlocking hardware

So in short a euro spec car is one with tv and video enabled on the idrive .. Which can be coded via the Autologic or the ncs expert coding program..

Here are some pics; MORE PICS TO COME
Yes as tk123 asked "Where can I get this?" If I can code my car for mp3's that would be a good thing!
__________________
A perissodactyl ungulate may be propelled toward a body of aqueous fluid, but such ungulate cannot be compelled or forcibly induced to imbibe such fluid.

Last edited by castercorey; 03-16-2012 at 08:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-16-2012, 12:13 PM
silkoccy silkoccy is offline
Registered User
Location: florida
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 24
Mein Auto: x5
Smile

Here you go :

http://pacificstereo.com/pac-dension...04_a_7cAVRG5B1


http://www.discountcarstereo.com/AVRG5B1.html
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-16-2012, 12:24 PM
silkoccy silkoccy is offline
Registered User
Location: florida
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 24
Mein Auto: x5
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by TxTaz View Post
Sad news. I doesn't work.
Well it does kind of. You can hear the video music but no picture and BMW says there is no way to make it work in this configuration. So that means no reversing camera either.
I'm off to try my next idea for video thanks to Nick.
You need the TV option coded so you see the option in IDrive, and for the dension to show the video, else you will just get sound and no picture, your independent BMW specialist can code it for you if they have Autologic I think.

Or find someone local that has NCS expert up and running, that can code it for you

Last edited by silkoccy; 03-16-2012 at 01:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-16-2012, 03:26 PM
TxTaz's Avatar
TxTaz TxTaz is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Antonio, TX
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 784
Mein Auto: 2010 650i Coupe
Quote:
Originally Posted by silkoccy View Post
You need the TV option coded so you see the option in IDrive, and for the dension to show the video, else you will just get sound and no picture, your independent BMW specialist can code it for you if they have Autologic I think.

Or find someone local that has NCS expert up and running, that can code it for you
Nice job SILKY

Unfortunately for me, I learned to use NCS expert after giving up on the AVR. Doh!!!!

What lines did you chnage to enable the TV Options? BTW, while you were in the did you mod anything else?
I did my IDrive menu and the friggin seat bong, 2 bongs then off.
I may be getting a newer 6 this year so I'm holding off on any other mods. The new one will have video.
__________________
Taz...
2010 E63 Black sapphire metallic
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.”
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-17-2012, 06:30 AM
silkoccy silkoccy is offline
Registered User
Location: florida
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 24
Mein Auto: x5
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by TxTaz View Post
Nice job SILKY

Unfortunately for me, I learned to use NCS expert after giving up on the AVR. Doh!!!!

What lines did you chnage to enable the TV Options? BTW, while you were in the did you mod anything else?
I did my IDrive menu and the friggin seat bong, 2 bongs then off.
I may be getting a newer 6 this year so I'm holding off on any other mods. The new one will have video.
Thanks Taz

1. For the Tv option
Control module : Cappl
Tv_front _enabled
Aktiv
2. Video in motion
Cappl module:
Video_deny _cob
Deny_never

I also programmed my LCI Turn signal eyebrows to stay on as DRL with my angel eyes.
I also programmed my windows to go up with the key by holding the lock button .
I also disabled the seat belt dong and the navigation legal disclaimer accept
I also coded the digital speedometer
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-14-2013, 01:23 PM
cky12a cky12a is offline
Registered User
Location: So Cal
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: e36 M3, e39 M5
Sorry to resurrect, but this thread definitely saved me some time. Thank you all for your contributions.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-24-2014, 01:20 AM
rebel.ranter rebel.ranter is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Cork, Ireland
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 845
Mein Auto: M6, 630i, 320iC
Here's my install:

OK, I haven't updated this is a good while, tha doesn't mean that I haven;t spent a fortune on it since.
I installed the Dension AVR just after Christmas & that allowed me to instal the TV module & more recently the reverse camera.

I added $601 to the VO & then I also coded the CAPPL module (application part of CCC module) with the following settings:

TV_FRONT_ENABLED
aktiv
VIDEO_DENY_C0B
deny_never
VIDEOMODUL_CCC_B
ece

"deny_never" means video in motion is now possible.

What comes in the AVR pack:



Proof of the pudding!:





URL=http://s175.photobucket.com/user/rebelranter/media/BMW%20e63/iPod%20Integration%20BMW%20e63/95AD09C2-D712-4849-BFAF-96A260EA2B3E_zpslsyyymoi.jpg.html][/URL]

It has a PVR for live pause & record. You can also view photos on the unit too. I also have a composite input for the iPhone so youtube, netflix, etc. are all possible. You can also watch videos directly stored on the iPod or iPhone.

Reverse camera:







The camera picture is not this grainy in life, I think it was just the sun when I took the picture:


You can also watch the rear view camera when you're in motion, wierd when at speed!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 04-24-2014, 01:43 PM
RooK77 RooK77 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Chile
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 278
Mein Auto: 645i
Great work thank you for sharing.

Nice non-invasive reverse camera position.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 08-23-2019, 06:15 AM
ashamlawi ashamlawi is offline
Registered User
Location: Jordan
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 4
Mein Auto: BMW E60 525
Wiring Diagram

I have the Dension AVR and wires have been cut unfortunately

Would appreciate the group help in giving some input on the wiring diagram and pinout

I tried to contact Dension to provide new original wires, but they don't provide these anymore, neither do they provide any wiring diagram

Appreciate your help guys

Thanks
Abed
Reply With Quote
Reply

See More Related BMW Stories


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 6 Series > E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
© 2001- VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.