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Old 08-26-2015, 06:51 PM
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Hi all,

I have been an aficionado for years and have waited for the day to lease a 328i ever since I can remember. I have also been on bimmerfest reading up for years...

I have been corresponding with a dealer here in Phoenix, Az but the negotiations are proving slow. I'm hoping something transpires here within the next 5 days in order to capitalize on a 2015 month and year end deals.

Thus far, all correspondence has been via email and telephone. After initially getting a verbal of 498 monthly as a preliminary number, the following screenshot he sent has the deal digressing.
The 498 was with 7% off MSRP but he would not verbally confirm a MF at the base of .0013 pre maxing out my MSD's at 7.

This car means the world to me... anyone have some advice/lingo like known rebates/incentives, etc. to help this deal along?

I have stressed that I will not put down any cap cost reduction, want to max out my MSD's, and need the MF at base of .0013 pre MSD calculation. 10k a year and MSRP of $45755 that includes Premium package, Sports line, and Driver Assistance Package. The screenshot has a MF of .00101 and I am not sure if that is being padded?

Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated.

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Old 08-26-2015, 06:55 PM
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Hi all,

I have been an aficionado for years and have waited for the day to lease a 328i ever since I can remember. I have also been on bimmerfest reading up for years...

I have been corresponding with a dealer here in Phoenix, Az but the negotiations are proving slow. I'm hoping something transpires here within the next 5 days in order to capitalize on a 2015 month and year end.

Thus far, all correspondence has been via email and telephone. After initially getting a verbal of 498 monthly as a preliminary number, the following screenshot he sent has the deal digressing.
The 498 was with 7% off MSRP but he would not verbally confirm a MF at the base of .0013 pre maxing out my MSD's at 7.

This car means the world to me... anyone have some advice/lingo like known rebates/incentives, etc. to help this deal along?

I have stressed that I will not put down any cap cost reduction, want to max out my MSD's, and need the MF at base of .0013 pre MSD calculation. 10k a year and MSRP of $45755 that includes Premium package, Sports line, and Driver Assistance Package. The screenshot has a MF of .00101 and I am not sure if that is being padded?

Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated.
I have been using an independent Lexus dealer's IS 350 F sport lease quotes to help get this deal rolling as well.
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Old 08-26-2015, 06:58 PM
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With nothing down but the first monthly payment your payment should be around 1% of the capitalized costs, estimating low 400s for you.
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Old 08-26-2015, 07:01 PM
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With nothing down but the first monthly payment your payment should be around 1% of the capitalized costs, estimating low 400s for you.
That's what I had thought as well. Thank you for the help cpariddler

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Old 08-27-2015, 11:53 AM
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With nothing down but the first monthly payment your payment should be around 1% of the capitalized costs, estimating low 400s for you.
Is the MF listed at .00101 padded if I am using 7 MSD's and starting with base MF of .0013?
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:28 PM
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Is the MF listed at .00101 padded if I am using 7 MSD's and starting with base MF of .0013?
Yes it is... you should be at .00130 - .00049 = .00081

So they have bumped it by two basis points (.0002) for extra profit.
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Old 08-27-2015, 05:06 PM
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Yes it is... you should be at .00130 - .00049 = .00081

So they have bumped it by two basis points (.0002) for extra profit.
The dealer is telling me they are only making an additional $373 on that MF markup and only making a profit of 184 on the car... What would the actuall 2 bps bump make the dealer from .00081 to .00101? Going in today to negotiate in person bc this is obviously not headed anywhere via email They are also trying to roll the $925 acquisition fee, $663.92 license fee, and $389 docking fee into the selling price haha.
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:12 AM
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The dealer is telling me they are only making an additional $373 on that MF markup and only making a profit of 184 on the car... What would the actuall 2 bps bump make the dealer from .00081 to .00101? Going in today to negotiate in person bc this is obviously not headed anywhere via email They are also trying to roll the $925 acquisition fee, $663.92 license fee, and $389 docking fee into the selling price haha.

By bumping the rate like that with those numbers, I'm coming up with a total over 36 months of about $540 difference. Plus the deal is about $1,500 over invoice (less rates), so not that great for a 2015 model.
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Old 08-28-2015, 11:38 AM
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$51,095 MSRP for $44,000 selling price. Looking to do a 36/15 lease. Is that a good deal? I think I can apply the UDE and USAA credits on top to bring it down further.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:20 PM
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$51,095 MSRP for $44,000 selling price. Looking to do a 36/15 lease. Is that a good deal? I think I can apply the UDE and USAA credits on top to bring it down further.
Already excluding those credits that's about the lowest % of MSRP I have yet to see on a 2015. To know whether it's a cracking lease deal depends on the money factor.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:52 PM
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Hello Everyone

This is my deal

MSRP: $41,700.00 (Driver Assist, Moonroof, Heated Seats)
Selling price: $35590
MF: 0.13
Residual: 26560 (in the quote)
Tax rate: CA
Due at signing: 2500(Bank fee, doc fee, dmv, 1st month payment)
Monthly payment: $350 incl tax for 36 months 12k miles

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Old 08-28-2015, 01:03 PM
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I am jealous. You guys are getting great deals. My dealer drops $4k and he sounds like it is act of God.
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Old 08-29-2015, 01:11 PM
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Update*: I have received a new offer and need your guys input here please!!

MSRP: 45,755
MF: .0013 base and .0081 after 7 MSD's

MSD's: 3,150+
Acquisition: 925+
Docking: 389+ some extra small fees
Nothing down for Cap Cost Reduction

Monthly net at 427 with $5,615 down at singing

Is this a solid deal? Or do i push more? The GSM says he is "in his suit" and 9% off is best he can slash MSRP for selling price. Told him I have an IS 350 F 2015 for 410 monthly with base MF and no cap cost reduction but that did not stimulate any further discount.

Please advise!!!
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Old 08-29-2015, 01:32 PM
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try punching your numbers here and see if it works.

I dont recollect the name of the member who prepared the bmw lease calculator excel sheet, but it helped in getting into a good conversation with the dealer
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Old 08-29-2015, 02:04 PM
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Update*: I have received a new offer and need your guys input here please!!



MSRP: 45,755

MF: .0013 base and .0081 after 7 MSD's



MSD's: 3,150+

Acquisition: 925+

Docking: 389+ some extra small fees

Nothing down for Cap Cost Reduction



Monthly net at 427 with $5,615 down at singing



Is this a solid deal? Or do i push more? The GSM says he is "in his suit" and 9% off is best he can slash MSRP for selling price. Told him I have an IS 350 F 2015 for 410 monthly with base MF and no cap cost reduction but that did not stimulate any further discount.



Please advise!!!

Solid deal, IMO. Do it.
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Old 08-30-2015, 04:55 AM
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Solid deal. Go for it.
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:27 AM
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If anyone knows the September incentives/residual/MF for 2015 and 2016 3 series please post them, thanks!
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Old 09-01-2015, 12:48 PM
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Update*: I have received a new offer and need your guys input here please!!

MSRP: 45,755
MF: .0013 base and .0081 after 7 MSD's

MSD's: 3,150+
Acquisition: 925+
Docking: 389+ some extra small fees
Nothing down for Cap Cost Reduction

Monthly net at 427 with $5,615 down at singing

Is this a solid deal? Or do i push more? The GSM says he is "in his suit" and 9% off is best he can slash MSRP for selling price. Told him I have an IS 350 F 2015 for 410 monthly with base MF and no cap cost reduction but that did not stimulate any further discount.

Please advise!!!
As a point of reference, I bought my 2014 on 6/29/14. The MSRP was about the same as your at $45,475. I was able to purchase at $40,500. My MF, acq. fee, and MSDs are the same as yours. My doc. fee was $80 but California caps it there.

I think the trick is to find the "adjusted invoice price" by taking the invoice price from Edmunds (including your options) and then deducting any incentives. My incentives at the time were $1500. You then have the adjusted invoice price. Add back in $500 and that should be the selling price.
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Old 09-01-2015, 02:22 PM
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If anyone knows the September incentives/residual/MF for 2015 and 2016 3 series please post them, thanks!
For others benefit, no 2016 numbers available but 2015 numbers;

328/335 Residual 64% for 10K 3 year lease.
.00130 MF.
$1500 build credit ($500 better than August).
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Old 09-01-2015, 02:56 PM
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Deal proposed on 2016 340xi;

MSRP 47,800
Options $9,000
Destination $995
Total MSRP $57,795.

Proposed sale price of $53,392 (6% off MSRP inclusive of all fees).
MF .0017 (they don't seem to want to budge on this).

I have a $1,000 Drive Event credit.

Monthly of $594.72 including my local 4.5% sales tax.

If they budge on MF then payment would be $557.85.

They insist $1500 buildout cash is not valid for 2016 MY cars... anyone know if that is correct?
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:13 AM
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My local dealer wants full MSRP for the 340i I priced out at $58,195 (almost fully loaded) for the first 6 months. The breakdown of the car I want is:

$46,795 MSRP includes $995 freight
$11,400 Options include Lighting, Tech, Driver Assistance and Driver Assistance Plus, M-Sport, Leather, Cold Weather, and Enhanced USB
$58,195 Total

I will not be buying the car from them. I was also looking at a 2015 X5 and they would barely move 6%. I guess thats why they have over 40 X5's on the lot right now. Maybe I am out of touch, but pricing seems unreasonable to me especially for a repeat customer.

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Old 09-02-2015, 01:20 PM
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I'm trying to make sense of these two lease deals, but I can't get the numbers to line up with various lease calculators. Are these good deals on 15s? This is my first lease, so I imagine that I am missing something. I have a college grad credit of $1000 and a UDE event credit of $1000.

Offer #1


Offer #2


Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 09-02-2015, 02:10 PM
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I'm trying to make sense of these two lease deals, but I can't get the numbers to line up with various lease calculators. Are these good deals on 15s? This is my first lease, so I imagine that I am missing something. I have a college grad credit of $1000 and a UDE event credit of $1000.


Any help would be appreciated.
Both look a little off to me. #1 is only showing $1000 credit and has 8% tax, priced at about $1800 under invoice. #2 is showing the full $2000 credit but has 9% tax, it's priced at about $1350 under invoice. #2 also is factoring 12,000 miles vs. 10,000.

#1 looks like a better deal, but make sure they give you the extra $1000 credit which would drop your monthly payment another ~$30/mo. BMWFS has $1500 build-out credit on 2015 328s, so you should be able drop both of those prices even more - especially #2.

Just my opinion, of course.
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:37 PM
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Both look a little off to me. #1 is only showing $1000 credit and has 8% tax, priced at about $1800 under invoice. #2 is showing the full $2000 credit but has 9% tax, it's priced at about $1350 under invoice. #2 also is factoring 12,000 miles vs. 10,000.

#1 looks like a better deal, but make sure they give you the extra $1000 credit which would drop your monthly payment another ~$30/mo. BMWFS has $1500 build-out credit on 2015 328s, so you should be able drop both of those prices even more - especially #2.

Just my opinion, of course.
Sorry, I should have clarified that each is from a different dealer. One is in a different county than the other, which explains the tax rate difference. I'll ask for an updated quote to include the discount. Given that these are 2015s, do you think I have any more room to move the selling price down given how far under invoice they already are?
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:51 PM
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TrueCar.com says you should be paying about $41,000 for a 2015 with a $46,000 MSRP. About $2000 under invoice. I think you could probably work the two off of each other and save another $300 to $500. Unfortunately for you, it's the beginning of the month, dealers might not be as willing to negotiate, especially with a big car buying weekend this weekend.
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