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Old 08-29-2019, 07:34 AM
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So I'm looking into buying this 2007 X5 4.8 with 166xxx miles as a second car for a couple of years, current owner just changed water pump and dsc sensor, nothing major in the past 8 years of ownership and has been on top of maintenance. I will be doing a pre purchase inspection at BMW before buying

Is this a bad idea in general as these cars will start falling apart?

I'm not sure how reliable these models are, I had e36s with 225xxx easy and they were running strong and most of my BMW were lease or CPO so I've never had a car like this.

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Buying a used 166xxx 2007 X5, BAD IDEA?

You need documented service history. This X5 has a well documented history of issues. Look up “Bmw n62 engine problems” on Google. There are some major repairs looming if there has not been much done in the past 8 years. You will find info on valve stem seals, leaking alternator bracket, difficult valve cover leaks, failing coolant transfer pipes. These are shop repairs if you don’t DIY and they can range from $1,000-$8,000 in cost. Do your research. The N62 is a nice engine but requires maintenance to keep it running great. Mind sharing the purchase price?


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What will the BMW dealer be 'inspecting' with that PPI? (There is no such thing as a standard PPI...its up to each mechanic and dealer to do what thwy want) You should know what they are inspecting and what criteria they will use

You are looking at a 12 year old car. Every hose, seal and plastic bit may fail. It is not a good time for a non-DIYer to be owning those cars. JMHO
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it is not a good time for a non-diyer to be owning those cars. Jmho
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An inspection might tell you that a valve cover is not leaking. A month later it could start leaking. When I think of a second vehicle, I think of a reliable cheap Honda or Toyota. BMWs don’t like to just sit and unless all of the major issues have recently been fixed it will soon become time consuming and/or expensive. Just make a wise decision. For most people this would be a “no” answer but for some it works.


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I'm in the same situation, same mileage, excellent owner with records. Trying to make a decision on whether or not to bite the bullet on a $4,000 X5. Body and interior are damn near perfect. Need to check whether the valve work has been done.
However I've been faithfully maintaining an 01 E46 with 255,000 miles, for the past 5 years. Suspension, brake system, axels, preventative maintenanc, oil changes etc 90 % maintained by me.
I tell my friends that want a used BMW, if you're not going to get your hands dirty, don't buy one. Get a used Toyota or Lexus.

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I'm in the same situation, same mileage, excellent owner with records. Trying to make a decision on whether or not to bite the bullet on a $4,000 X5. Body and interior are damn near perfect. Need to check whether the valve work has been done.
However I've been faithfully maintaining an 01 E46 with 255,000 miles, for the past 5 years. Suspension, brake system, axels, preventative maintenanc, oil changes etc 90 % maintained by me.
I tell my friends that want a used BMW, if you're not going to get your hands dirty, don't buy one. Get a used Toyota or Lexus.

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If it’s a $4,000 X5 e70 then the owner knows there is something wrong with it or something looming and wants to sell it before the symptoms show more obviously.


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Normally I'd agree, however he's a good friend of 30 years who makes an insane amount of money and just wants to get rid of it. I've advised him on issues in the past on the car. He was going to donate it and take the tax deduction.
Most of the mileage is driving back and forth between ATL and Charlotte. First sign of trouble and it goes to the shop so he doesn't get stuck on the hwy. He has an independent BMW specialist who does all the work. He's taking delivery of a new Tahoe.

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Normally I'd agree, however he's a good friend of 30 years who makes an insane amount of money and just wants to get rid of it. I've advised him on issues in the past on the car. He was going to donate it and take the tax deduction.
Most of the mileage is driving back and forth between ATL and Charlotte. First sign of trouble and it goes to the shop so he doesn't get stuck on the hwy. He has an independent BMW specialist who does all the work. He's taking delivery of a new Tahoe.

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If he is a good friend then get those service records. Get prepared for what you might see in the future.
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If it’s a $4,000 X5 e70 then the owner knows there is something wrong with it or something looming and wants to sell it before the symptoms show more obviously.


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You do not sell a perfectly working old BMW X5. Its a work horse and a good hand me down .

$4k to buy and $20 k to update it.

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You do not sell a perfectly working old BMW X5. Its a work horse and a good hand me down .

$4k to buy and $20 k to update it.

Penny wise and pound foolish.
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Normally I'd agree, however he's a good friend of 30 years who makes an insane amount of money and just wants to get rid of it. I've advised him on issues in the past on the car. He was going to donate it and take the tax deduction.
Most of the mileage is driving back and forth between ATL and Charlotte. First sign of trouble and it goes to the shop so he doesn't get stuck on the hwy. He has an independent BMW specialist who does all the work. He's taking delivery of a new Tahoe.

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These other guys are giving one-size-fits-all advice...

If you are a DIYer....who can park the car for weeks to work out major issues (if they occur)...who can DIY 90% wihci is ALL the minor stuff....at 4k? Why not?
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Can be good cars if you DIY

We have in the family E53 E70 E46 and MB W251 and I tell anyone that ask “You can not afford these cars if you do notDIY” . Just did Knock sensors on E70 4.8 parts 125 from rock auto but if you have to pay for 10 hours labor to ripe it apart and back it gets expensive
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These other guys are giving one-size-fits-all advice...

If you are a DIYer....who can park the car for weeks to work out major issues (if they occur)...who can DIY 90% wihci is ALL the minor stuff....at 4k? Why not?
$4k for a 400 horsepower car., means there is a catch somewhere. I agree it may be well maintained. But parts fail from sheer old age.. I was once thinking of buying an old high mileage red Ferrari to grace my driveway ., but I cannot do DIY , so dropped the idea
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$4k for a 400 horsepower car., means there is a catch somewhere. I agree it may be well maintained. But parts fail from sheer old age.. I was once thinking of buying an old high mileage red Ferrari to grace my driveway ., but I cannot do DIY , so dropped the idea


It’s a 350-355 hp X5. Depending on the source.


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These other guys are giving one-size-fits-all advice...

If you are a DIYer....who can park the car for weeks to work out major issues (if they occur)...who can DIY 90% wihci is ALL the minor stuff....at 4k? Why not?


That’s what I was getting at when I said “Just make a wise decision. For most people this would be a “no” answer but for some it works”


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$4k for a 400 horsepower car., means there is a catch somewhere. I agree it may be well maintained. But parts fail from sheer old age.. I was once thinking of buying an old high mileage red Ferrari to grace my driveway ., but I cannot do DIY , so dropped the idea
It's the X5 30i stock engine.
I bought a E46, with 124,000. It's my daily with 255,000 now. Looks good and is dependable due to preventative maintenance. Of course most of the rubber (hoses & bushings) on the car have been replaced at least once.
Next project for it is the oil pan gasket and tranny filter and fluid.

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It's the X5 30i stock engine.
I bought a E46, with 124,000. It's my daily with 255,000 now. Looks good and is dependable due to preventative maintenance. Of course most of the rubber (hoses & bushings) on the car have been replaced at least once.
Next project for it is the oil pan gasket and tranny filter and fluid.

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I think an E70 in the southeast does better than the winter climates. I figured your similar position was talking about a 4.8i.


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BabyUnicornTaco gave you good information.



Check how much oil is added between changes. Have someone gun it and see if it smokes when backed down. I guarantee you oil is leaking through !he valve seals! The question is how much. Any service manager will tell you the transmission will need work with this much mileage. Look at who drove the car and how they drove it. Have a solid BMW mechanic check it out.

Add $10,000 to the price and ask yourself if you would still buy it. I have a 2009 with 130,000 miles and have spent over $30,000 for repairs at the dealer.

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