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Old 06-06-2019, 03:46 PM
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Any experience with non BMW brake rotors and pads? What brand and price and where purchased?

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Old 06-06-2019, 10:50 PM
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Some posters are crazy about Zimmermann rotors.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...34216855007kt2

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Thanks for the information and clarifications.

Does anyone know the OEM for BMW X5 4.8i rotors and pads?
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Thanks for the information and clarifications.



Does anyone know the OEM for BMW X5 4.8i rotors and pads?


Rotors manufacturer was Balo, ATE, TMD and Prevent.
Balo went bankrupt.
Best bet rotors wise: Brembo, Textar or ATE. Zimmerman is good, but it is not OE supplier.
Pads: ATE, Jurid, Pagid, Textar or TRW.
Bestbet for OE feel: ATE, Textar or Jurid aftermarket pads.
For neighbors to envy: Akebono.


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Rotors manufacturer was Balo, ATE, TMD and Prevent.
Balo went bankrupt.
Best bet rotors wise: Brembo, Textar or ATE. Zimmerman is good, but it is not OE supplier.
Pads: ATE, Jurid, Pagid, Textar or TRW.
Bestbet for OE feel: ATE, Textar or Jurid aftermarket pads.
For neighbors to envy: Akebono.


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Good info. I wonder what the F15 X5 uses? My fathers 2016 has much less break dust when compared to my E70. His F15 is not directly comparable to my E70 because my 35D has bigger rotors than his 35i.
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I got Durago "Electrophoretic coated" rotors from Rockauto - the non-friction surfaces have a black satin coating, that in a year has not shown any hint of corrosion.

and Akebono Pads - ZERO brake dust from these on both BMW's... My X3 would turn the wheels black in 5 days with the OE pads....

I put them on the 335 along with the above rotors right after I got the car last year. along with new wheels... They still don't look like they NEED cleaning.
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Good info. I wonder what the F15 X5 uses? My fathers 2016 has much less break dust when compared to my E70. His F15 is not directly comparable to my E70 because my 35D has bigger rotors than his 35i.
I don't bother about brake dust. My EBC Yellow Aramid fiber pads produces dust but brakes phenominally even at 80mph to full stop.

If there is no dust produced by any pads , then the rotors take the brunt of the friction force and wear out faster. Its Laws of Physics. Something has to give way to produce friction to stop the 2.5 ton X5

Types of Brake Pads :

Non-metallic materials - these are made from a combination of various synthetic substances bonded into a composite, principally in the form of cellulose, aramid, PAN, and sintered glass. They are gentle on rotors, but produce a fair amount of dust, thus having a short service life.
Semi-metallic materials - synthetics mixed with varying proportions of flaked metals. These are harder than non-metallic pads, more fade-resistant and longer lasting, but at the cost of increased wear to the rotor/drum which then must be replaced sooner. They also require more actuating force than non-metallic pads in order to generate braking torque.
Fully metallic materials - these pads are used only in racing vehicles, and are composed of sintered steel without any synthetic additives. They are very long-lasting, but require more force to slow a vehicle while wearing off the rotors faster. They also tend to be very loud.
Ceramic materials - Composed of clay and porcelain bonded to copper flakes and filaments, these are a good compromise between the durability of the metal pads, grip and fade resistance of the synthetic variety. Their principal drawback, however, is that unlike the previous three types, despite the presence of the copper (which has a high thermal conductivity), ceramic pads generally do not dissipate heat well, which can eventually cause the pads or other components of the braking system to warp.[5] However, because the ceramic materials causes the braking sound to be elevated beyond that of human hearing, they are exceptionally quiet.


You have to decide what you prefer, a faster wearing pads which protects rotors or long lasting pads which damage rotors


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If you dont track the car, just buy the premium rotors and pads from Autozone. They are good quality and with lifetime warranty they are the last set you wil have to buy.
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My foreign guy uses OEM brake pads but I was really happy when I went to cleaner Napa ceramic pads on our Toyota Avalon. No more nasty wheel dust and more sensitive and better brake response, so I overrode him. Initially thought I made a mistake, but they soon 'broke in' and are fine, but didn't seem quite as good as the Avalon pads even though the BMW had more massive pad area. However, Napa had more than one brand of ceramic pads and I don't know if I got the same pads this time. My guy drove it with them on. His opinion? They're just fine. Saves some bucks too.
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Old 06-12-2019, 08:23 AM
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Thanks to all you guys for responding with good information.

FYI
I plan to go with BMW OE pads, sensors and rotors. The decision was based on price and stopping I found an independent to do both front and back using BMW OE for $1,200 compared to $1,900 from dealer.

Yes, I will deal with more brake dust. Mechanics I trust who will install non BMW told me that braking is a little better with BMW OE. There was not much difference in price.

The car has 125,000 miles. I cringe on putting $1,200 into brakes for a $10,000 or less value car. That's BMW!
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I don't bother about brake dust. My EBC Yellow Aramid fiber pads produces dust but brakes phenominally even at 80mph to full stop.

If there is no dust produced by any pads , then the rotors take the brunt of the friction force and wear out faster. Its Laws of Physics. Something has to give way to produce friction to stop the 2.5 ton X5

Types of Brake Pads :

Non-metallic materials - these are made from a combination of various synthetic substances bonded into a composite, principally in the form of cellulose, aramid, PAN, and sintered glass. They are gentle on rotors, but produce a fair amount of dust, thus having a short service life.
Semi-metallic materials - synthetics mixed with varying proportions of flaked metals. These are harder than non-metallic pads, more fade-resistant and longer lasting, but at the cost of increased wear to the rotor/drum which then must be replaced sooner. They also require more actuating force than non-metallic pads in order to generate braking torque.
Fully metallic materials - these pads are used only in racing vehicles, and are composed of sintered steel without any synthetic additives. They are very long-lasting, but require more force to slow a vehicle while wearing off the rotors faster. They also tend to be very loud.
Ceramic materials - Composed of clay and porcelain bonded to copper flakes and filaments, these are a good compromise between the durability of the metal pads, grip and fade resistance of the synthetic variety. Their principal drawback, however, is that unlike the previous three types, despite the presence of the copper (which has a high thermal conductivity), ceramic pads generally do not dissipate heat well, which can eventually cause the pads or other components of the braking system to warp.[5] However, because the ceramic materials causes the braking sound to be elevated beyond that of human hearing, they are exceptionally quiet.


You have to decide what you prefer, a faster wearing pads which protects rotors or long lasting pads which damage rotors

While I agree with you on the physics thing - yes there IS dust... It's more a matter of whether it sticks and coats the wheels like paint or not.

The Akebonos have been on the X3 going on 2 years, the 335xi 11 months - no significant rotor wear - they stop and feel like OE (a little more grab at low speeds)
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I got Durago "Electrophoretic coated" rotors from Rockauto -
LOL. powder coated.

"Physics thing," marketing claptrap. Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect.
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Why do people even bother asking?
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Lol. Why do people even bother asking?
Hypersensitive virtue signaling. “Oooh, I’m so wonderful and sensitive, I really care, just ax me.”
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once you do a little diy on a bmw and you have to go back to a mechanic... it hurts! lol. I think I did all 4 brakes rotors and pads on my x5 w meyle coated rotrs and brembo ceramic pads with shipping under 400 bux...Think bavauto had them on sale w free shipping.
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