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Old 01-02-2020, 08:50 AM
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How many run flat tires do you go through in a year?

Ok, I have a 2013 bmw 335i coupe, and live Louisiana. In a 1 year and 4 months I have gone through ***7*** run flat tires.

Has anyone else been encountering this problem?
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:02 AM
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probably want to post this in the E9x forum. 2013 coupe was an E92.

for the F3x platform BMW increased the sidewall height on their cars, across two F3x cars i only had 1 runflat tire destroyed by a pothole.

my E9x, i went through many tires, both runflat and go flat. anything over a 17" rim on the e9x has a very short sidewall. IIRC, it was 225/45/17 with a 4" sidewall, 225/40/18 with a 3.5" sidewall, and 225/35/19 with a 3".
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I had two RFT's replaced on my 2008 E90 but none due to other than wear on a 2011 E90 and a 2014 F30. All 3 year leases. I found that the all weather RFT's lasted 35-40,000 miles.
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Old 01-02-2020, 04:22 PM
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Never had to replace mine. They lasted about 30-35k miles and 3-4 years.
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Old 01-02-2020, 08:21 PM
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It varies.

I haven't had a flat tire or tire failure since around 2008. The time before that was in the late 1990's.

In contrast, I know someone who had about 6 nails in their tires over a space of about a year and maybe 15,000 miles of driving.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:19 AM
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Geaux Tigas! Idk about them myself but I have spent a bunch of time in the sticks in Louisiana. Watching videos, I saw this comment on the run flat tires. He finishes talking about it in about a minute 20 seconds into the video.
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:04 AM
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Since 2008 and 4 BMWs later, I have replaced 2 RFTs: 1 for a sidewall bubble and 1 due to a screw.
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Old 01-03-2020, 11:43 AM
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Never had to replace a run flat. The originals are now at 82,000 miles and getting close to needing replacement. One tire did develop a slow leak which was plugged. How were the 7 tires damaged?
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Ok, I have a 2013 bmw 335i coupe, and live Louisiana. In a 1 year and 4 months I have gone through ***7*** run flat tires.

Has anyone else been encountering this problem?
What is your point?

You replaced due to what problem/root cause? Road hazards, potholes, blow outs, alignment, sidewall, wear&tear/mileage?? And who is diagnosing need or replacement?
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I chewed through 3x tires during the first 25k on my F31, all due to road hazards (potholes, nails, etc.)

Thankfully, I bought America's Tire Road Hazard certs when I got the car. So for about $100, I chewed through $600 worth of tires. My one remaining factory tire is at 6/32nd tread depth.
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Well the o.p. had 3 posts in 2017 and 1 in 2020. I'm guessing he will be back in 2023.
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Geaux Tigas! Idk about them myself but I have spent a bunch of time in the sticks in Louisiana. Watching videos, I saw this comment on the run flat tires. He finishes talking about it in about a minute 20 seconds into the video.
Atty, I guess the secret is to buy new!
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That Scotty guy made his living keeping clapped out old cars on the road. Those clapped out cars belong to people who usually can't afford a new car. So, expensive repair bills hit them in the wallet hard. $2k/year in maintenance and repairs on an older BMW is no big deal to me, because that's trivial compared to the annual depreciation on a new BMW.

I have a theory that those $300 RFT's get a bad rap because they often sacrifice their own lives to save the lives of the $800 rim.
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Old 01-06-2020, 06:57 AM
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That Scotty guy made his living keeping clapped out old cars on the road. Those clapped out cars belong to people who usually can't afford a new car. So, expensive repair bills hit them in the wallet hard. $2k/year in maintenance and repairs on an older BMW is no big deal to me, because that's trivial compared to the annual depreciation on a new BMW.

I have a theory that those $300 RFT's get a bad rap because they often sacrifice their own lives to save the lives of the $800 rim.
Aren't you the smart one!
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Old 01-06-2020, 08:03 AM
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Lllolololl lo ololooo lo lllolo lo ok lol.

Scotty is a real character. I like how he specifies that he bends back his own rims on his 94 celica. Sounds like a real peach.
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Aren't you the smart one!
I keep telling Frau Putzer that, but she's not convinced.
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It varies.

I haven't had a flat tire or tire failure since around 2008. The time before that was in the late 1990's.

In contrast, I know someone who had about 6 nails in their tires over a space of about a year and maybe 15,000 miles of driving.
The next town down the coast from me got flattened by the big hurricane in 2018. Everybody there was getting fats from all the debris falling off the trucks heading to the landfill.

I've had two flats within 10k miles of each other in my 535i. The debris trucks traveled through my town on the way to the county landfill. Frau Putzer went 147k miles in her last car without flat tire. She shredded four Michelin Green X's though, likely due to her abusive driving habits. Large chunks of rubber were tearing off the tread blocks.
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I think the tire guys pay the roofers to leave roofing nails around. After H. Hugo I bought a magnetic quicker-picker-upper for the neighborhood.
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I think the tire guys pay the roofers to leave roofing nails around. After H. Hugo I bought a magnetic quicker-picker-upper for the neighborhood.
Self-storage complexes are also a bad place to get screwed or nailed. The one where my shed is has a big magnet hanging across the front of their golf cart about two inches off the ground, to hopefully catch some of the nails and screws.

My mother lived in a big apartment complex for about ten years. The place was so big it took them almost that long to build it. They built near the road first and then worked back on their property. I'd go see her on Sunday mornings, and always check her tires. I found maybe a dozen slow leaks due to punctures. I'd top off her tire pressures precisely before the sun hit the tires. If the following week any tire was even a half-PSI below the other one on the axle, there was a nail in it.
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I'd go see her on Sunday mornings, and always check her tires. I found maybe a dozen slow leaks due to punctures. I'd top off her tire pressures precisely before the sun hit the tires. If the following week any tire was even a half-PSI below the other one on the axle, there was a nail in it.
Dude! Did you ever consider a carrier as an F1 team tire guy - especially now with budget limits? You'd save them a ton of money ...

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Dude! Did you ever consider a carrier as an F1 team tire guy - especially now with budget limits? You'd save them a ton of money ...

Too many blown discs in my back for humping tires on and off in less than two seconds. I rotated Frau Putzer's tires New Years Day, it took a couple of hours, and I'm still in pain.

Back in college, I worked for the courier office of a big bank. That office put about one million miles a year on their vehicles, and the bank had four other courier offices in the state. NOBODY every checked the air in the tires. I offered to do it, but they didn't want to pay me overtime or buy me any tools (compressor, tire gauge, maybe a floor jack, etc.) Instead, they spend ten times what I would have cost on tires and extra gasoline.

Being retired now, I don't have to do a lot of thinking like I did in my job. So, I look for mental hobbies, mostly what I call "outcome manipulation" games. Tires fit that bill perfectly. I've developed a process to extend the life of my tires, which for lack of a better name I call "tire whispering." It's sort of like horse whispering, but with... tires... instead of horses. The objective of tire whispering is to get ridiculous mileage out of tires and have them evenly worn across each tire and across a set of tires. When I get new tires, I want to save one of the old tire worn down evenly to between 2/32" and 3/32" of tread left, and display it in my living room as (further) evidence of my genius. The cats like having a few tires in the living room, but Frau Putzer doesn't.

I've compiled all the tenets of tire whispering in a 23 page manifesto. It's eventually going to be a chapter in the book "The World According to Autoputzer," or "TWATA" for short. I'll let everybody know when it's on Amazon.

I've become friends with the service manager at BMW of Bubbaville. I told her about tire whispering and how I should get 60k out of the OE tires on Frau Putzer's 2018 X3. She said don't tell the other customers. They'd be furious... with her. She also says that a lot of customers come in when their TPMS light comes on, never thought about buying a pump and a tire gauge, and are annoyed about being inconvenienced with having to bring the car in.

Actually those crafty Germans at Continental tire have invented a wheel that has an air pump built in that automatically tops off the tires every time the car accelerates from a stop to speed. With sensors in the tires, it's fully automated the tire whispering process.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/c...re-technology/

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Ok, I have a 2013 bmw 335i coupe, and live Louisiana. In a 1 year and 4 months I have gone through ***7*** run flat tires.

Has anyone else been encountering this problem?
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How many run flat tires do you go through in a year?
Run-flats: Average useful life has been about 25,000 miles/set for max-performance tires, in my experience.

Go-flats: Psh. I burn up a set of Bridgestone RE-71R's in about ten days.

It's not clear from the OP whether it's seven tires or seven sets of tires in 16 months. If the former, stop driving through potholes and debris fields. If the latter, either your car or your driving style is seriously messed up--possibly (probably?) both.
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Too many blown discs in my back for humping tires on and off in less than two seconds. I rotated Frau Putzer's tires New Years Day, it took a couple of hours, and I'm still in pain.
No man, no tire gun for you. Only temp probe for asphalt and the tire surface. Plus one really good pressure gauge, of course

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Go-flats: Psh. I burn up a set of Bridgestone RE-71R's in about ten days.
Amateur.



Kidding, kidding, of course. I always get a kick when I see people's face when you tell them how much a set of tires costs (PS4S, for example). Then you tell them they last from April to October if you are lucky and they faint Of course, your "lucky" means you got 8-10 track weekends in for a season - quite the opposite of what they understood when you said "lucky".
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I have a 2014 435 and am at 40,000 miles. Obviously i don't put on a ton of miles. I changed out my stock RF tires around 30K for non-Run flat tires.
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