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Old 06-27-2020, 06:00 PM
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Ok cool thanks I'll look up those parts and order them now
Which online retailer d you guys usually use ?
AutohausAZ fcpeuro ecstuning or car parts ?
What do you guys think and who is usually faster to Ship and deliver ?
In in CA 95567 at the moment
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Old 06-27-2020, 06:31 PM
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Canít find the ground straps you recommend do you have a link ?
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Old 06-27-2020, 06:32 PM
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Does that seem right besides ground straps any product your recommend to clean the oil residue while I'm replacing the parts ?
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Old 06-27-2020, 06:40 PM
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I prefer fcp as they're 2 hr driving distance from me and they have warranty on everything they sell. I have an account with ecs and turner as well cuz they're not too far either but it usually depends on
1) How much do I wanna pay,
2) How fast do I need it delivered,
3) Quality level of the part i need.

If there's an fcp warehouse near you, start with them.

Use the part numbers from realoem.com when you look up parts on their websites cuz sometimes they mess up the fitment.

Autozone (AZ) engine degreaser

I don't think AZ lists those ground straps on their website but they have them on the shelf.
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Old 06-27-2020, 06:41 PM
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Here is the part number for the ground strap


https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...p/12423420477/

Donít forget oil, oil filter and coolant....

Keep in mind you donít need to buy the OEM braided strap. You can buy any insulated battery cable from any parts store...

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Old 06-27-2020, 06:56 PM
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Here is the part number for the ground strap


https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...p/12423420477/


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That is the the one you DON'T wanna buy.

You gotta walk into AZ and grab two of these (pick the right length)

https://www.autozone.com/ignition-tu...00000043798715

Or these

https://www.autozone.com/batteries-s..._0?spps.s=5076
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Old 06-27-2020, 07:28 PM
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You don't have to do the OFHG as it can be done without removing intake manifold. (If it ain't broke, don't fix it)
You have enough on your plate. Disa, pcv/ccv hose, intake manifold gaskets, throttle body gasket...
More things you try to do at the same time, greater the chances of f***371;ck!ing something up.
Close the intake ports with shop towels and lightly oil the gaskets before for easy slide in, to not to damage them and good sealing. Take lots of pics to not to forget what came from where. Try not to drop screws, bolts, nuts as you'd have to jack the car up to retrieve them. Telescopic magnet can be a life saver. Its couple bucks at AZ. Definitely unhook the battery before removing anything but place something to prevent trunk door from closing.
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Old 06-27-2020, 07:36 PM
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That makes sense so you wouldnít do the oil filter gasket and or the engine valve cover gasket even if they leak ( I mean itís not leaking like dripping oil on the ground but the engine is pretty dirty an oily
I guess Iíll keep those two for my mechanic back in nyc ;-)
He wonít charge me a lot
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Old 06-27-2020, 07:38 PM
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No issue ordering a non oem disa valve ?
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Old 06-27-2020, 07:56 PM
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You need to find where the oil is leaking from and where is it leaking to? If theres a leak, fix it. If there's not, no need to fix.
Pictures of the leaking areas could help a lot.

When my outer disa was kaput, the fastest way I could get it was from Amazon next day delivery cuz I needed the car. Its been about a year since I replaced it. No problems so far.

But I wouldnt take chances with the inner disa cuz its hard to get to and disa valves tend to break apart and get sucked into the engine when they're old. Like I said, if you have any other problems in the future, you'll know your inner disa is good. So you'll look for the cause of that problem somewhere else. For the inner disa, definitely oem.

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Old 06-28-2020, 01:26 AM
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The 3 leaks were diagnosed by bmw oil fileter gasket valve cover gasket and oil pan. Gasket
Il post pictures Tomorow
If the current inner disa Is good would you still replace it ?
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Old 06-28-2020, 04:04 AM
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Hereís the deal...you can pick and choose what you want to do based on your experience/repair comfort levelbut one question?

You are currently in an extremely remote part of Northern California (I know that area well) but live in NYC? Are you going to drive this home? If so Iíd replace as much as possible but I donít know your skill set.

You have a failed starter and you have the normal leaks all n52 get with age.

You have to pull the manifold. If your OFHG is leaking change it now while in there. Doesnít make sense not to fix as many leaks as possible. Yes it can be done without removing the manifold but literally all bolts are exposed...easy access.

If you have money for it change the DISAs while the manifold is out. They are bound to fail. When they break, the flappers end up lodged in your engine intakes. I speak from experience here...my starter failed replaced it and 6 months later my disas failed.

Valve cover is an easier job honestly manifold doesnít have to be removed.

The oil pan is a different story...itís not for the faint of heart. I paid a shop to do mine.

If you are driving this cross country, how old are the plugs and coils? I speak from experience here as well.

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Old 06-28-2020, 04:11 AM
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:00 AM
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All the oil leaks are vacuum leaks so the engine will not run 100% when that occurs, but only the OFHG (and your likely leaking front crank seal) contribute to the engine eating the serpentine belt, which can be even more catastrophic than a failed DISA, so at the very least address that while the intake is out as a ďmight as well.Ē


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Old 06-28-2020, 10:18 AM
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I see the OE part is pretty steep..
It seems to be working great now
What do you think the lifespan of that part is ?
I might buy it and see how the current one looks like when disassembling
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Old 06-28-2020, 10:21 AM
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Completely unrelated but does anyone know what that threaded hole is in the front right top of the engine ?
It seems very clean...is anything supposed to be there ?
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:09 AM
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Thats where the engine hoist screw goes in, to lift the engine.

You dont have to replace the inner disa or any of the oil gaskets now but the leaks must be fixed soon as your next project. Definitely check the inner disa when you're replacing the starter. Lightly oil the gasket when reinstalling.With the experience you gain from starter replacement, changing the inner disa later will be less intimidating and less time consuming.
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Old 06-28-2020, 12:43 PM
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I see the OE part is pretty steep..
It seems to be working great now
What do you think the lifespan of that part is ?
I might buy it and see how the current one looks like when disassembling


Which oe part, the DISA?

My DISA finally died and broke apart at 240k miles / 10 years. It was driver side that broke apart but I had weird miss fires for about 5k miles before that were caused by flaky DISAs just without the code.


Donít go based off my mileage all was super commuter mileage as I bought it brand new. Age is more appropriate.

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Old 06-28-2020, 01:34 PM
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I bought the oil filter gasket so Iíll replace it for the disa Iíll check it out and replace it another time
What type of oil would you recommend just the regular engine oil ?
Or some specific product ?
Thanks for the info on disa replacement besides obvious damage is thereís anything to look for when inspecting the disa ?
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Old 06-28-2020, 01:45 PM
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Get two of these and use the leftover to compensate the leaks and burning

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/pen...30-1-1#fitment

This

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...1-8195#fitment

Don't forget to change the o-rings and oil them before installation.

And this

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vol...cta-tools-2489

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Old 06-30-2020, 05:31 PM
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Iíd agree itís the starter bendix. Sounds like itís not engaging the ring gear. Spent the money on that first
If you have an OBD reader, see if thereís any issues with coils, although it didnít sound bad once it started.
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Old 07-02-2020, 04:10 PM
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No error code on OBD reader or the dash
I'm receiving the new parts today
What specific tools ( I know I need the female torx 6 torx 14) and or grease / engine cleaner or anything I would need or would be useful to have
Any advice on what to pay attention to ?

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Yeah... everything. Pulling the intake on an N52 requires careful attention to detail for every little hose and wire connection (especially the one along the firewall) to not light up your dash when you first turn the key. The two little nuts on the lower support bracket beneath the steering column require either small fingers or creative ingenuity. Tape/mark connections. No, you donít need to remove the fuel rail or even touch it, despite the NEWTIS directions to.


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Old 07-03-2020, 09:36 AM
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I'm about to replace the starter on my BMW X3 but in order to do so I have to remove the intake manifold
It's pretty humid and cloudy ( it's sunny but we are in a cloud ) today does it matter ? Should I wait for the sun to come out and the air to dry ?
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Nah youíre fine. Just make sure to plug each intake in the head with a sick immediately (and then donít forget to remove them!)


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