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Old 09-20-2004, 09:37 AM
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I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.
I noticed you've asked this question a few times. This should help.......99.99% of all parts that fit a MY '01-'04 330 will work on your car. A search on this board and the E46 Fannatics board should give you more than enough items to burn your money on. However, an 8k blower and 3k suspension still won't make it an "M."
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Great, my car just came in and im supposed to pick it up tomorw. I was told it was a 330ci ZHP 6sp. I just found out it is an AUTOMATIC! There arent any 6sp available in the coupe till late January. Is the performace really that much of a difference from auto to stick?? Thanks
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:57 AM
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Great, my car just came in and im supposed to pick it up tomorw. I was told it was a 330ci ZHP 6sp. I just found out it is an AUTOMATIC! There arent any 6sp available in the coupe till late January. Is the performace really that much of a difference from auto to stick?? Thanks
What do you mean you 'just found out' ?

You ordered a manual and they are giving you an automatic because it's not available until January ? And they didn't inform you in advance ?
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Wow, great customer service. I would get your deposit back, and go somewhere else. They don't deserve your business.
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Old 12-23-2004, 08:28 PM
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Great, my car just came in and im supposed to pick it up tomorw. I was told it was a 330ci ZHP 6sp. I just found out it is an AUTOMATIC! There arent any 6sp available in the coupe till late January. Is the performace really that much of a difference from auto to stick?? Thanks
If you ordered your car you should have signed a purchase order listing all the options and selections you made. So that would make very questionable why your are not getting the car you ordered. If you bought something the dealer had already pre-order that obviously were misled and need to take your business somewhere else.

The is absolutely not reason why should take an automatic in lieu of a stick if that is what you want. You will live to regret that decision as long as you own the car.
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Old 12-24-2004, 07:28 AM
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Thanks for all the replies fellas. Ya, i did not order the car, but i was told it was a 6sp. It was going to another dealer, but they told me that they could have it delievered to me and it was a 6sp. So i didnt order it, just mislead. The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker. Someone must have an auto in these things. I mean, the dealership told me that all the 6sp 330ci ZHP were basically unavailable right now.
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Old 12-24-2004, 09:43 AM
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Thanks for all the replies fellas. Ya, i did not order the car, but i was told it was a 6sp. It was going to another dealer, but they told me that they could have it delievered to me and it was a 6sp. So i didnt order it, just mislead. The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker. Someone must have an auto in these things. I mean, the dealership told me that all the 6sp 330ci ZHP were basically unavailable right now.
You will lose between 0.5 to 1 sec going from 0-60 with an automatic.

The dealer makes it sound like the factory does not make enough manual transmissions. The real issue is that the majority of dealers refuse to order mechanical transmissions unless it is pre-sold car. If you place you order now you could have the car equipped exactly to your requirements by the end of March.
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Old 12-24-2004, 04:57 PM
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The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker.
The difference between a manual and automatic on paper is 0.5 seconds for 0-60. The difference in terms of engagement and fun is huge. Forget fast or slow; if you already know how to drive a manual and had the smallest amount of desire to get a manual in the first place, don't back down.

According to C&D, the IS300 runs 0-60 in the neighborhood of 7.3 to 7.4 seconds. BMW says the ZHP does 0-60 in 5.9, and C&D tested 5.6 seconds. Tack on a half second for the auto.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:57 AM
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sorry for my ignorance... but what is DHP?

Your not ignorant......just non-delusional like "Doeboy"


A quick search on this board will explain.
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Old 03-24-2005, 06:27 PM
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I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.
hey im not sure if this is wat ur lookin for but i know carbonio makes a cold air intake system and the dinan chips and other mods from the due goods for ur car but after that **** starts getin expensive there are headers and exhaust fro around a grand for each the headers i was lookin at was like 1200 bux so im not sure if that wat u were lookin at but thats wat im sayin
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:41 AM
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The thing is, auto would be more practical but i dont want the car to be slow. I just got done with my Lexus IS300 and it was ok, so im hoping the 330ci will be much quicker.
The difference between a manual and automatic on paper is 0.5 seconds for 0-60. The difference in terms of engagement and fun is huge. Forget fast or slow; if you already know how to drive a manual and had the smallest amount of desire to get a manual in the first place, don't back down.

According to C&D, the IS300 runs 0-60 in the neighborhood of 7.3 to 7.4 seconds. BMW says the ZHP does 0-60 in 5.9, and C&D tested 5.6 seconds. Tack on a half second for the auto.
BMW does not list different 0-60 times for the ZHP manual and ZHP automatic like they do with the non-ZHP 330's.

I think that has to do with the different final drive ratio on the ZHP automatic.

If you look at the non-ZHP 330's final drive ratios:
manual: 2.93
auto: 3.38

and the ZHP's final drive ratios:
manual/SNG: 3.07
auto: 3.64

While I was at a BMW dealership a few weeks ago, I asked the guy at the parts counter if he could look up the gears on a 2005 330Ci w/ ZHP and tell me if they are in fact 3.07 or the same as the non-ZHPs 2.93s. (The 2005 330's w/ZHP and with manual or SMG tranny do have the 3.07 gears)

The parts guy let me look at the computer screen when he had it up there. I could plainly see that the final drive ratio was 3.6something for the ZHP option with the automatic transmission. (I can't remember the last digit, but Iím pretty sure it was 4).

I have not seen anything in BMW's marketing material stating that the final drive ratio for the ZHP's w/auto is 3.64, but the part is listed as that ratio in BMW's parts system.

The final drive ratio is a bigger change from the non-ZHP automatic to the ZHP automatic than it is on the non-ZHP manual to the ZHP manual.

I believe that the final drive ratio difference is a big enough change in the automatic's to give the ZHP automatic the same 0-60 times as the ZHP manual.

Now, if you swap out those lame 3.07s that come with the ZHP manual for the 3.46's that BMW should have put in the ZHP option with the manual transmissions, then there would be no comparison!
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BMW does not list different 0-60 times for the ZHP manual and ZHP automatic like they do with the non-ZHP 330's.

I think that has to do with the different final drive ratio on the ZHP automatic.

If you look at the non-ZHP 330's final drive ratios:
manual: 2.93
auto: 3.38

and the ZHP's final drive ratios:
manual/SNG: 3.07
auto: 3.64

While I was at a BMW dealership a few weeks ago, I asked the guy at the parts counter if he could look up the gears on a 2005 330Ci w/ ZHP and tell me if they are in fact 3.07 or the same as the non-ZHPs 2.93s. (The 2005 330's w/ZHP and with manual or SMG tranny do have the 3.07 gears)

The parts guy let me look at the computer screen when he had it up there. I could plainly see that the final drive ratio was 3.6something for the ZHP option with the automatic transmission. (I can't remember the last digit, but Iím pretty sure it was 4).

I have not seen anything in BMW's marketing material stating that the final drive ratio for the ZHP's w/auto is 3.64, but the part is listed as that ratio in BMW's parts system.

The final drive ratio is a bigger change from the non-ZHP automatic to the ZHP automatic than it is on the non-ZHP manual to the ZHP manual.

I believe that the final drive ratio difference is a big enough change in the automatic's to give the ZHP automatic the same 0-60 times as the ZHP manual.

Now, if you swap out those lame 3.07s that come with the ZHP manual for the 3.46's that BMW should have put in the ZHP option with the manual transmissions, then there would be no comparison!
When I'm talking to customers about the difference in performance... I always tell them its about .5 seconds... but in reality... it's not. In fact, I would say its about .1-.2 seconds... if anything at all. I would love to see a test on this. We should take two bone stock ZHPs... one manual and one with auto... and do it ourselves. Surely we could get a couple of guys here to do it.
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When I'm talking to customers about the difference in performance... I always tell them its about .5 seconds... but in reality... it's not. In fact, I would say its about .1-.2 seconds... if anything at all. I would love to see a test on this. We should take two bone stock ZHPs... one manual and one with auto... and do it ourselves. Surely we could get a couple of guys here to do it.
I've got the manual ZHP coupe ready and willing
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I have been looking all over the place to find some engine mods for my 330i ZHP. I have checked aatuning, Dinan, and AC... But have come up with nothing for my 04. Dose anyone have any suggestions on engine mods... I want to turn this thing into a 4 door M.
I would start with Dinan tuning products. Strating with the free flow exhuast system , throttle body. Once you have spent a few months breaking in ur engine wiith these mods i would do Dinan Stage "engine tuning", which is their software chip systems that adds horsepower and torque. For the last two mods i would put a cold air intake in, followed by the Dinan Supercharger system. At the end you should be making close to 390 - 405 BHP if not more.
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I dunno, bbelt, that sounds a bit optomistic. Not saying it's impossible, but you gotta consider the engine is at a relatively high compression ratio already. There are a couple of guys on here with FI ZHPs already, and I don't think they are over about 345-360 BHP. Serious FI tuning will likely require lowering the compression ratio and messing with some engine internals. And, FWIW, Dinan isn't the be-all end-all of performance mods. In fact, the lunatic modders seem to steer clear of them completely for the most part. They seem to be fine street tune upgrades, but race tune is often sourced from other aftermarket vendors.
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I would start with Dinan tuning products. Strating with the free flow exhuast system , throttle body. Once you have spent a few months breaking in ur engine wiith these mods i would do Dinan Stage "engine tuning", which is their software chip systems that adds horsepower and torque. For the last two mods i would put a cold air intake in, followed by the Dinan Supercharger system. At the end you should be making close to 390 - 405 BHP if not more.
numbers are a bit high there dude, more like 360 whp with proper tuning on the SC, but deffinetly enough torque to embarass an m3 in a straight line

btw Dinan does not make a supercharge (that i know of) for any of the 3 series, you have to void you warranty if you want the power. you have to go with ESS tuning, Active Autowerke tuning, Technik Engineering. none of the kits talk about making more than 365, and that number is bhp not whp. there is also a turbo made by ATP, haven't heard much about it though. ATP is a pretty good company.
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I've got the manual ZHP coupe ready and willing
I've got the auto (long story)... and am always ready... for a race!
We need someone that would be able to acurately time us with a proper stop watch...
Sounds like a meet in Sorento Valley is in order...
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What Package does this car have?

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What Package does this car have?
The packages being describe in this thread only apply to the BMW North America distributor's market. The 318i is not available in the North American (US/Canada). Your car was actually available in Mexico and marketed there as the Formula 1 package, though IIRC in other markets is was called the M Sport package. See snapshot of the BMW Mexico website with a 320i Formula 1 car.

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A package that's unfortuantely unavailable in the ol' U S of A.
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A package that's unfortuantely unavailable in the ol' U S of A.
Yes it is. It's know as the Performance Package or ZHP.
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Yes it is. It's know as the Performance Package or ZHP.
My eyes must be deceiving me....those wheels don`t look like 18-inch 135s....

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I was refering to the body kit, although I know the Performance Package comes with more than just a body kit.
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