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Old 11-03-2017, 11:25 AM
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Yet another recall

October 30, 2017 | Recall Campaign No. 17V-683
POSITIVE CRANKCASE VENTILATION (PCV) VALVE HEATER
Last Updated: November 3, 2017
DESCRIPTION OF PROBLEM
This recall involves an engine component known as the Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) valve heater. The PCV valve heater may not have been produced to specifications. Over time, it could deteriorate and, in rare cases, could lead to overheating.
SAFETY RISK
If overheating occurs, then in rare cases, this could lead to melting of the PCV valve. In extremely rare cases, this could lead to a fire.
DESCRIPTION OF REPAIR
The remedy is not available yet. The PCV valve heater will be inspected and a new part will be installed. If necessary, additional components will be replaced as determined at the time of repair.
For additional information or assistance, please contact Customer Relations and Services at [email protected] or at 1-800-525-7417.
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Old 11-03-2017, 02:35 PM
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Unhappy Ouch.

N52 only. From the E90/... group:



"heated oil separator"

Part number 11618638014? "Angle Connector With Heating Element"

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW...arator-systems
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:11 AM
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I'll have to look for that in the mail...hopefully before the smoke appears.
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:28 AM
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Has anyone already replaced theirs? If so, could you get it done via just removing the alternator, or did you have to remove the intake manifold?

If the manifold has to come off, it seems like a good time to do the starter as well.
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:27 AM
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I guess seat heater fires are not as much of a concern to the Bavarian Motor Works Company...
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Old 11-04-2017, 10:49 AM
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If it starts burning...walk away and start looking for a new BMW to enjoy. Of course Im joking. I park my truck in my garage (gas hot water tank, lots of bottles of flammable and explosive stuff) which is attached to my house where I sleep! Good grief. I guess old Nelly gets parked in the drive way until I can dig into this one.
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Old 11-04-2017, 12:27 PM
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Apparently with the key out it's deactivated. So ... if you notice smoke, stop, park outside away from flammables, and take the key out. And call the FD if it doesn't seem to be going out ... the intake manifold is plastic. I'd use my fire extinguisher on it if I had to.
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Old 11-06-2017, 08:32 PM
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have any of you guys taken this is to be replaced yet???
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Old 11-07-2017, 05:32 AM
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Letter says the remedy isn't available yet, but I don't recall hearing about this in another thread.
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:08 PM
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Letter says the remedy isn't available yet, but I don't recall hearing about this in another thread.
smaglik,

My dealer has confirmed that my X3 will need to be replaced. They told me that I have to wait for the letter and that they do not expect to be doing repairs until about mid December as they are preparing and waiting for the engineering department to let them know the details. They did tell me that they will remove the alternator to replace it. They also told me that if anyone has already replaced this then the individual will need to contact their dealer and provide information for a reimbursement for the procedure. He would not go into anymore details, but he has my number and will call once they are ready.

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Old 11-12-2017, 01:25 AM
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2006 X3's part of that recall?

I have a problem with my Crankcase valve on my 2006 X3. Does this Recall cover that year?
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Old 11-12-2017, 04:46 AM
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I have a problem with my Crankcase valve on my 2006 X3. Does this Recall cover that year?
I think I've read that some late 2006s got the new N52 engine, while most still had the M54. The recall is for the N52. Which engine is in your 2006?

On the N52, the diaphram in the valve cover's part of the PCV system often fails, and most replace the whole valve cover to solve it.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:48 AM
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BMW offering rental reimbursement on PCV recall

I was just at the dealer asking about open recalls on my 2007 and they gave me the PCV recall ant the latest passenger seat sensor mat replacement recall, for which neither parts are available. My SA did tell me for the PCV recall BMW is offering $44/day through enterprise if I feel at risk driving the X3. Right now I'm checking what $44 per day can get me car wise through enterprise.
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Old 12-03-2017, 03:58 AM
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Just got recall notices for yet another thing! "Front Passenger Seat Occupant Detection Mat". On both of my 2008s. No parts available yet.
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:40 AM
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Got both of mine too for the passenger seat thing, but nothing on the PCV heater.
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Old 12-04-2017, 05:00 PM
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Got both of mine too for the passenger seat thing, but nothing on the PCV heater.
Same here.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:00 AM
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Got my PCV Heater recall notices yesterday and I came back to this thread to try and work out which part they are talking about..

The part number mentioned above is #7 on this diagram

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...56#11617572643

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https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/11618638014/

it seems to be installed under the manifold? I wonder if it can be installed without removing the manifold and disturbing the gaskets

does it connect into the vent hose 14?

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_3737

which is usually nice and brittle by this stage of it's life
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:46 AM
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Fire dept.

Got the BMW letter, sz to not park the vehicle in the garage, LOL. At 60K, I had to clean the Vanos solenoids, at 66K the starter fried. Now at 72K the water pump is on its way out. I hate the fact that there's no dipstick, the clock is a PITA to set and the defrost is pitiful. I hope the damn thing burns in the driveway
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Old 01-04-2018, 11:19 AM
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???

Neither of my letters prohibit parking in the garage.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:39 AM
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I was just at the dealer asking about open recalls on my 2007 and they gave me the PCV recall ant the latest passenger seat sensor mat replacement recall, for which neither parts are available. My SA did tell me for the PCV recall BMW is offering $44/day through enterprise if I feel at risk driving the X3. Right now I'm checking what $44 per day can get me car wise through enterprise.

Did you end up getting a rental?


Was anyone else able to get BMW to pay for a rental car?

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Old 01-06-2018, 11:59 AM
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Did you end up getting a rental?


Was anyone else able to get BMW to pay for a rental car?

Thanks.
No I just found out and went on my way, but all of a sudden my X3 is having serious drive-ability issues so I may just try to get the free ride for a while. I'll chime in if I ever call them on this.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:31 AM
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Yet another recall

Wait. I can get a rental and spare from driving the bmw? Because 44$ goes a long way when using Costco travels to rent a vehicle.

I will be calling BMW Canada tomorrow. Where I live the temperatures currently are like -32C.. this pvc thing is quite serious.


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Old 02-03-2018, 07:46 AM
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I received a rental car from December when I smelled smoke to just this past week end of Jan. For what they paid for the rental ($70 a day) and repair costs i wish they would have just bought the car. I wasn't able to trade the car in as it had an active recall and with no parts avail it just sat for 2 months. Finally brought it in to be serviced, but now the dealer cannot get the car started. Now they want me to pay for a valve cover/eccentric valvetronic sensor job as they think that is the problem. Has anyone else had this heater valve recall done? Any issues like this??? i know the heater is on the intake side and the eccentric is on the other side but it can't be pure coincidence!
Does anyone know if the heater wiring goes anywhere near the DME or valve cover side they could have damaged anything doing this?
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:54 AM
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I received a rental car from December when I smelled smoke to just this past week end of Jan. For what they paid for the rental ($70 a day) and repair costs i wish they would have just bought the car. I wasn't able to trade the car in as it had an active recall and with no parts avail it just sat for 2 months. Finally brought it in to be serviced, but now the dealer cannot get the car started. Now they want me to pay for a valve cover/eccentric valvetronic sensor job as they think that is the problem. Has anyone else had this heater valve recall done? Any issues like this??? i know the heater is on the intake side and the eccentric is on the other side but it can't be pure coincidence!

Does anyone know if the heater wiring goes anywhere near the DME or valve cover side they could have damaged anything doing this?


Disconnect the sensor, the sensor is not required to start or drive the car. Been driving the car without it now for a week to troubleshoot a issue.




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Old 02-03-2018, 08:01 AM
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Thanks for the reply, SA said he could start it with it disconnected but it runs rough. Doesn't unplugging it completely disable the valvetronic system? Still just trying to see my options as it ran fine when i brought it in, they drove it INto the garage, replaced the recalls but then can't drive it OUT unless they disconnect the sensor.
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