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Old 03-08-2019, 11:53 AM
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When will X5 45e will be available?

Trying to plan ahead what to do when my current X5 lease is up in a few months. Thanks.
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:55 PM
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Trying to plan ahead what to do when my current X5 lease is up in a few months. Thanks.
Based on insider talk on the other forum, it should launch in a few months for MY20.
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:04 PM
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Supposedly, it is going to Europe first (and maybe China). I'm interested as well, but there's little information out yet. It's mentioned on some of the Euro BMW websites, but not much information. One site claimed 2.1l/100km fuel use, which probably would need some explanation. That's insanely high efficiency. The increased torque and power over the I-6 alone is impressive. Should make towing a breeze, if you're interested in that feature.
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:43 AM
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I too am interested in this plug-in hybrid and will follow this thread for any updates.
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:38 PM
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Several of the car websites had articles last fall saying it would be available in Europe in 2019 but wouldn't be available in the US until 2020 as a 2021 MY. But I thought I read something in Roundel saying it would be available in the US in mid 2019. I'll try to find that article and re-read the details.

I'm hoping to move from my 2017 40e to the G05 45e in early 2020, so I was really hoping it would hit the US sometime in 2019.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:09 AM
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I too am interested in the 45e. Our current X5 lease ends at the end of this year. The 45e would be a great option for us. Most of our driving is in-town for short distances that likely could be covered on the electric-only range. Having the plug-in hybrid would alleviate any range anxiety from going all electric. We have a reservation for an Audi E-Tron. I was able to drive one on the streets yesterday at the Washington Auto Show. Very impressive vehicle, but the EPA range of 204 miles is very disappointing. Probably not a deal breaker given our driving patterns, we rarely drive on trips more than about 120 miles each way, but 250-300 mile range would have given more confidence while we wait for more fast chargers to be installed. We are not willing to go for a Tesla Model X, and the Jaguar I-Pace, while very nice, is too small for our needs and has a rating of only 234 miles.
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Old 04-08-2019, 03:55 AM
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Living in Europe. Ordered my X5 45e 5 weeks ago. Expected delivery is Okt-Nov 2019. According to the concession production starts in August 2019.
The sales representative told me they would likely contact me at the beginning of June to confirm my configuration.

A friend ordered one, three weeks after me, at the same concession. His expected delivery date is January 2020 already.
I'm not sure how the assignment of 'production slots' works with BMW but I assume that every country/concession gets a maximum number of slots/cars assigned to them.

As stated above certain articles mention a mid 2020 release date for USA.
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Hi Chris,
Please report back here on it when you get it and have had a chance to drive. Thanks.

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Living in Europe. Ordered my X5 45e 5 weeks ago. Expected delivery is Okt-Nov 2019. According to the concession production starts in August 2019.
The sales representative told me they would likely contact me at the beginning of June to confirm my configuration.

A friend ordered one, three weeks after me, at the same concession. His expected delivery date is January 2020 already.
I'm not sure how the assignment of 'production slots' works with BMW but I assume that every country/concession gets a maximum number of slots/cars assigned to them.

As stated above certain articles mention a mid 2020 release date for USA.
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Old 04-10-2019, 02:48 PM
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Each dealer gets the opportunity to buy a certain number for stock. If one is sold prior to building, they are also allowed to customize it for that customer and that can change the priority. At least in the USA, taking delivery at the Munich facility doesn't come out of the dealer's allocation, so that may be an option if you're willing to drive it home from there. I don't know if those sold in Europe would include shipping back to your local dealership...it does in the USA. But, each country negotiates their own contracts with the head office, so things may differ where you live. I'm guessing those X series won't be available for European delivery like the sedans made there will be...doesn't make sense to ship it across the pond twice.

Given that the vehicles are made in the USA, it's somewhat frustrating that we may not get access to it at first, but other countries are a bit more sympathetic to hybrids than our current administration, and that may play a part in the sales overall.
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:13 PM
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Part of the country-to-country differences in availability could be due to emission and fuel economy certification. Also, car companies like to start out with low production (and therefore availability) so that if/when they screw something up they have fewer vehicles to recall. The also might want that low initial production to roughly meet demand. so, that would mean making them available first in low-volume market.
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Old 04-30-2019, 05:36 PM
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Over the last month, several first drive reports have shown up on the hybrid version...those that I've read have been positive.

One of them indicated that that model, while starting production this July, won't be sold in the USA until late next year...implying that it may end up being a 2021 MY. It takes a couple of months to fill the dealer pipeline, and often, July is the changeover point. So, it's looking more like fall 2020 for first US deliveries.

Guess my wait may be longer than I wanted...

One report indicated that the battery pack is now 22Kwhr, which is about the same as what's in my 2014 i3. The X5 weighs lots more (not quite twice as much), so that will affect the range on battery. They did indicate that you can program the car to default to EV mode on startup whereas the normal mode is hybrid. It will still start the engine if you floor it, but as long as you are sane, you can keep it in EV mode for most tasks if you wish. They said that the start/stop now is pretty seamless. They may be using the electric motor to help spin up the engine more smoothly. Time will tell.

Combined power in Europe, 282 on the I-6, and 112 on the electric motor for a combined 394Hp and lots of torque, especially at startup.
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Old 05-01-2019, 07:40 AM
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Well at least they're made in the US so hopefully they'll be available sooner rather than later.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:32 AM
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Torque isn’t simple addition. They’re curves.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:34 PM
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Torque isn’t simple addition. They’re curves.
Certainly true, but an electric motor has maximum torque at zero RPM. Meld that into the engine's torque which, if this version of the engine is similar to others in the line, peaks quite low. The combination should mean better efficiency and more seamless torque from start. The EV torque drops off at higher RPM typically, as does the engine's, but filling in the startup should really make this combination shine. AT road speeds when they both drop off, well, that's beyond the legal speed limits, at least in the USA.
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:38 PM
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Got contacted by my BMW concession today concerning my BMW X5 45e order.

They confirmed me the 24 kWh battery pack and a 41 gr/co2. No word on if this was WLTP cycle or a converted NEDC 2 value.
Curb weight 2435 kilograms.

Apparently the leather color Cognac is cancelled. So I have to pick a new interior color.
They are still aiming on an October delivery.

They also told me that over 850 BMW X5 45e were pre-ordered in Belgium. Which is a huge number for such a small country.
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Got contacted by my BMW concession today concerning my BMW X5 45e order.

They confirmed me the 24 kWh battery pack and a 41 gr/co2. No word on if this was WLTP cycle or a converted NEDC 2 value.
Curb weight 2435 kilograms.

Apparently the leather color Cognac is cancelled. So I have to pick a new interior color.
They are still aiming on an October delivery.

They also told me that over 850 BMW X5 45e were pre-ordered in Belgium. Which is a huge number for such a small country.
You're lucky - I think the USA will get the X5 45e later than Europe ... we may get the X3 Hybrid before the X5 version :-(
Hope you folks on that side of the pond drive the volts out of them and work out the bugs so when they are released to the USA they will be more trouble-free :-)
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Any indication of the new 45e coming available with a 3rd row option?

Since diesel is not going to be available in the US, going hybrid and adding a 3rd row may look like a suitable successor for my E70 35d when it is time to retire....
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Any indication of the new 45e coming available with a 3rd row option?

Since diesel is not going to be available in the US, going hybrid and adding a 3rd row may look like a suitable successor for my E70 35d when it is time to retire....
If the GO5 is like the F15 was, you get a choice of one: third row seat, spare tire, or hybrid.

They had crazy lease deals on the F15 hybrid. But, I don't roll without a spare tire, and I'm now militant that a car must have a hole to put the spare in and a flat cargo area floor. So, that was the end of that.
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Got contacted by my BMW concession today concerning my BMW X5 45e order.

They confirmed me the 24 kWh battery pack and a 41 gr/co2. No word on if this was WLTP cycle or a converted NEDC 2 value.
Curb weight 2435 kilograms.

Apparently the leather color Cognac is cancelled. So I have to pick a new interior color.
They are still aiming on an October delivery.

They also told me that over 850 BMW X5 45e were pre-ordered in Belgium. Which is a huge number for such a small country.
X3's and X5's are popular cop cars in Europe. There on the news every time there's another shoot 'em up or blow 'em up in Europe.

With the EU putting the clamp on diesel emissions, maybe all those cop cars are going to be hybrids now. A fleet vehicle hybrid makes much more sense than a consumer hybrid.
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Old 05-19-2019, 08:22 AM
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3rd row is not possible with the hybrid.

I assume the battery pack is in the way. Trunk floor is a bit higher because of the battery pack.




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Any indication of the new 45e coming available with a 3rd row option?

Since diesel is not going to be available in the US, going hybrid and adding a 3rd row may look like a suitable successor for my E70 35d when it is time to retire....
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Old 05-27-2019, 12:43 AM
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Last week I received an information sheet from BMW.

On the sheet, the range of the new BMW X5 45e is stated as 94km-97km (+- 58 miles).
When ordering last February they told me the range was 60km.

No word on the used test-cycle.

I ordered the car believing it would be a 16kWh battery pack with 60km range.
Seems that I'm getting a slight upgrade.
24kWh battery with 94km range.
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Last I heard, they started to build this model on 1 Aug 2019. Still no official word on when it will be sold in the USA.

For any of you that may receive one, please let the rest of us know how it works, and what you think. Here's hoping that it shows up in the US before the 2021 model year. The only saving grace is that they'd have a year to catch any infant mortality and defects, and hopefully fix them.
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I wonder why the US seems to be getting this and the MB GLE plug-in hybrid so much later than Europe. Is it that PHEVs and EVs are more demanded by customers/governments in Europe, and the companies don't have enough battery supply locked up so are allocating to Europe first rather than launch worldwide around the same time?

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I wonder why the US seems to be getting this and the MB GLE plug-in hybrid so much later than Europe. Is it that PHEVs and EVs are more demanded by customers/governments in Europe, and the companies don't have enough battery supply locked up so are allocating to Europe first rather than launch worldwide around the same time?
Car manufacturers often like to keep new technology at low production numbers at first, just in case there are problems that cause a recall. Also, the engineers who designed all this stuff are in Germany, and they might want the early production cars going there so they can be close if there are problems.
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