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Old 05-09-2018, 08:37 AM
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Hey there. I've never owned a BMW before, but my wife has one. We have both worked on her car ourselves (oil changes, brake changes, sensor changes, etc).

I'm looking to purchase a 2012 X5 (diesel) with 90,000 miles on it. I looks like a very fun car to own and drive around. However, I'm weary to purchase this as I'm under the impression that BMW's start going down hill at the 100k mile mark. Is that true for the diesel X5?
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Old 05-09-2018, 11:20 AM
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How about doing a quick search? There are tons of threads with the same question.

Biggest issue the the M57 is the emissions components
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How about doing a quick search? There are tons of threads with the same question.

Biggest issue the the M57 is the emissions components
And in the M57 diesel subforum just below (in the main forum list.)
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I appreciate it.

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How about doing a quick search? There are tons of threads with the same question.

Biggest issue the the M57 is the emissions components
And in the M57 diesel subforum just below (in the main forum list.)
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Old 05-09-2018, 03:45 PM
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Hey there. I've never owned a BMW before, but my wife has one. We have both worked on her car ourselves (oil changes, brake changes, sensor changes, etc).

I'm looking to purchase a 2012 X5 (diesel) with 90,000 miles on it. I looks like a very fun car to own and drive around. However, I'm weary to purchase this as I'm under the impression that BMW's start going down hill at the 100k mile mark. Is that true for the diesel X5?
I'm only at 190k miles on my 2012 X5 35d and it's still too early to tell. The car was a CPO deal in 2014 at 52k miles, now at 190k miles. The car is less than one oil change away from 200k miles.

My 2014 535d is only at 104k miles and it's still too early to tell on that one too. The car was bought new in August 2013. It was ordered on 7/1/13, a little over 24 hours after the car first appeared on BMW USA's website. I took delivery at my dealer on 8/14/13.

I am the only driver of my cars and split the miles up between them and I drive around 1k miles per week. BMW diesels seem to hold up well to logging road warrior miles on them.

With my logging 1k miles per week, whatever I own and drive absolutely HAS to be DIESEL powered. Gassers are not an option at all, including gasser hybrids.



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You are right to be weary of cars of this mileage, but the good news is that it only takes a higher level of due diligence to reduce the potential for getting a lemon and this forum pretty much has everything covered.

I personally would filter down my search to private party cars only and even then I would focus on cars where the owner exhibits a minimum of knowledge, has owned the car for more than a few months, seems to have given it a level of care that exceeds BMW's sorry levels of maintenance requirements and has the paper work to back it up. That might seem like the needle in the hay stack and those cars might be on the far end of the price bell curve, but they are out there and worth the patience and effort in my opinion as well as experience.

Next I would do my own inspection consisting of making sure body panels look undamaged, look for paint overspray, condition of tires, you should be able to get an idea of whether the pads are newish or getting worn without taking the wheels off, look for obvious leaks, inspect the cowl trim, make sure all the electrical and technical doodads function, and then of course drive it and be alert for any undesirable behavior. If you have a BMW code reader, hopefully it can display coolant temp and you can determine the health of the thermostat.

If it passes that then I'd pop for a pro to do a PPI. Pro would NOT be the dealer, but rather I would look for a BMW or Euro specialist who has some diesel experience.

As to my personal experience, I bought my 2012 X5d with 11k miles in 2013. It now has 83k miles and has been rock solid. I have zero complaints about the car; it has exceeded my expectations and has been rock solid. That being said, having owned 13 BMW's I know it has weaknesses and the waters will get rougher during the second half of my planned ten year ownership. This is why these cars that cost $65-80k six short years ago can be had for 25% of that amount.

Good luck with the search.
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Old 05-10-2018, 05:25 AM
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Hey there. I've never owned a BMW before, but my wife has one. We have both worked on her car ourselves (oil changes, brake changes, sensor changes, etc).



I'm looking to purchase a 2012 X5 (diesel) with 90,000 miles on it. I looks like a very fun car to own and drive around. However, I'm weary to purchase this as I'm under the impression that BMW's start going down hill at the 100k mile mark. Is that true for the diesel X5?


I have this car now over 100km the only issue we have replacing the entire active tank sensor with parts in the thousands. Itís the nature of all diesel vehicles I heard.


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Im wary.

Oops!! Thanks for the catch. Not going to edit the typo now.
At least it brakes the monotony of the typical malapropisms your used to seeing they're.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:45 AM
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I almost thought you were purposefully copying the OP...

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Alignment here: The Definitive Alignment Thread

OE is Original Equipment aka 'BMW Original Parts' aka 'What you buy at the BMW dealer with a BMW label'

OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer... EITHER the company that made the OE part or.... A part this is identical to the OE part, but is sold by the OEM under their own label


OEM is not what BMW sells


http://www.bimmerzone.com/category/T...ricks_OEM.html

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Old 05-15-2018, 06:39 PM
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I have a 12 X5d as well. Bought it CPO in 2015 at 40k miles. Now at 86k miles she has been rock solid. I had some parking sensors replaced and rear hatch actuators but besides that just oil, diesel and TIRES. I'm very happy with mine but it does eat tires alive. Try to avoid the 214 style wheels 315s rear 275s front) if you don't like dropping serious money on tires which 425torque eats quickly.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:37 PM
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it does eat tires alive.
Do check your alignment for optimal wear...0.01 to 0.02 toe in on each wheel; camber and caster mid spec, but balanced side to side

Simple!

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Alignment here: The Definitive Alignment Thread

OE is Original Equipment aka 'BMW Original Parts' aka 'What you buy at the BMW dealer with a BMW label'

OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer... EITHER the company that made the OE part or.... A part this is identical to the OE part, but is sold by the OEM under their own label


OEM is not what BMW sells


http://www.bimmerzone.com/category/T...ricks_OEM.html

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-OEvsOEM
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Old 05-16-2018, 03:23 AM
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Do check your alignment for optimal wear...0.01 to 0.02 toe in on each wheel; camber and caster mid spec, but balanced side to side
+1

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