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Old 08-30-2015, 04:13 PM
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Adding M Brakes...or something else?

Hi there - first post to the forum, and returning after a while back to the BMW fold.

Purchased a 2016 BMW 328i xDrive Touring/Sport Wagon. Should be arriving in the next couple of weeks.

Cold Weather Pkg
Premium Package
Driver Assistance Package
Driver Assistance Plus
Technology Package
Adaptive M Suspension
Rear manual side window shades
Heated front seats
Side and Top View Cameras
Navigation system
Harmon Kardon surround

I waffled/agonized on the Track package after reading negative reviews of the VSS (Variable sport Steering). I would have loved the big M Brakes and non-run flats but couldn't pull the trigger.

That being said, I am interested in ADDING Big Brakes (and have done so before on some of my other cars). Anybody do it here? I see the "official" BMW M Brake Kit on Ebay for about $2000 which includes front a rear calipers and rotors. Or I could go Dinan...but that would be more $.

Thoughts?
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Old 08-30-2015, 04:30 PM
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That being said, I am interested in ADDING Big Brakes (and have done so before on some of my other cars). Anybody do it here? I see the "official" BMW M Brake Kit on Ebay for about $2000 which includes front a rear calipers and rotors. Or I could go Dinan...but that would be more $.

Thoughts?
That is what I did... $1900 shipped for a complete brand new M Performance BBK kit on eBay:



I only go full aftermarket Brembo BBK on ///M cars, otherwise BMW did a great job with their OEM Brembo BBK on the F30 for the price. Quite an improved brake feel over stock, excellent look and low dust with the right pads.
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Old 08-30-2015, 04:32 PM
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Front and rear, right?

How much did you pay for install, and did you go with stainless steel lines at the same time?
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Old 08-30-2015, 07:05 PM
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Front and rear, right?

How much did you pay for install, and did you go with stainless steel lines at the same time?
Full kit, reused OEM lines and $350 install...
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Old 08-30-2015, 07:52 PM
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I too wanted to get the M Brakes on my 2016 F31 but could not get over just how fugly the 398 wheels are. What type of clearance is required for the OEM BBK? I might bolt it on after taking delivery if it works with the 400M wheels.
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Old 08-31-2015, 08:31 AM
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Isn't it cheaper to get factory msport brakes then buy new wheels?
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IMO, the lighting package is more important than big brakes, and even some of the other things you've chosen. Halogen headlights are ok, but adaptive LED headlights are much better.
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Old 08-31-2015, 08:42 AM
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I said it several times already, will say it again: if you don't like ZTP wheels, buy the car anyway and then swap the sets with someone who has more traditional looking wheels and wants yours. You won't lose. And there are plenty of people who like those grey 398s. I do.

VSS negatives have been blown out of proportion too btw. Though if you're dead set against it, then of course stay away from ZTP, steering swap wouldn't be a realistic proposition.

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Old 08-31-2015, 08:59 AM
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IMO, the lighting package is more important than big brakes, and even some of the other things you've chosen. Halogen headlights are ok, but adaptive LED headlights are much better.

Are Xenons considered halogens?
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:13 AM
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I get regular LED headlights with the premium package, just not adaptive.


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IMO, the lighting package is more important than big brakes, and even some of the other things you've chosen. Halogen headlights are ok, but adaptive LED headlights are much better.
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:16 AM
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xenons are HID

Is that the same as LED?
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:22 AM
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No, they are not the same. Xenons aren't offered anymore on the 328, only halogen, or LED.

There is base halogen, LED, and adaptive LED offered.

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Is that the same as LED?
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:28 AM
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Oh. I have a 16 435 on the way. I thought the stock Xenons were the same lights that are on the Lightning package. The difference being auto high beam.
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:30 AM
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The 435 might be different. on the smaller engines, there is only halogen, LED, and adaptive LED.

The lighting package makes them adaptive, i.e., able to bend slightly around corners.


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Oh. I have a 16 435 on the way. I thought the stock Xenons were the same lights that are on the Lightning package. The difference being auto high beam.
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Old 08-31-2015, 09:40 AM
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Mine are adaptive, just not up to EU standard
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Oh. I have a 16 435 on the way. I thought the stock Xenons were the same lights that are on the Lightning package. The difference being auto high beam.
3s and 4s have very different headlight options and packages.
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Old 08-31-2015, 10:39 AM
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Oh. I have a 16 435 on the way. I thought the stock Xenons were the same lights that are on the Lightning package. The difference being auto high beam.
3 and 4 series lighting options are completely different. 3 is now post-LCI, and the options are halogen, LED (inc. in premium package, standard on 340i), and Adaptive LED.

4 series is still pre-LCI. Xenons are standard, $1900 lighting package gives you Full Adaptive LEDs. Post LCI for the 4 it's probably a safe bet than LED will be standard.
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I get regular LED headlights with the premium package, just not adaptive.
Better be sure; doesn't show when I do a build online.
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Old 08-31-2015, 11:02 AM
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i confirmed with my SA.

also, if you click on premium package it changes the look of the headlights in the configurator.


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Old 08-31-2015, 11:17 AM
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3 and 4 series lighting options are completely different. 3 is now post-LCI, and the options are halogen, LED (inc. in premium package, standard on 340i), and Adaptive LED.



4 series is still pre-LCI. Xenons are standard, $1900 lighting package gives you Full Adaptive LEDs. Post LCI for the 4 it's probably a safe bet than LED will be standard.

I just checked and you are correct. Guess I'll have to suffer with xenons instead of LED's.
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