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Old 08-16-2018, 04:35 AM
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E92 poor rear visibility. Is there a solution?

I own a 2007 BMW 325i E92 and it really is a beautiful car to drive. My only gripe is that it has what I consider to be the poor rear visibility and this causes me some real issues when changing lanes on busy highways and the like.

This isn't such a problem for me when merging left as when I do a final head check on my left side I have a decent enough view out of the rear side and rear window to see exactly where those cars are in relation to the back of mine. But when trying to merge right and do a final head check over my right shoulder (driver's side here in Australia) my view out of the rear side and rear window is largely blocked because of the head rests, small windows and angles etc.

The issue is compounded because of the convex side mirrors. Whilst they virtually eliminate blind spots, they can really distort how close cars in other lanes are to you, and when you can't see over your shoulder properly to do a final head check (because of the reasons I outlined) it's just plain dangerous.

Has anyone else experienced what I am describing and if so did overcome this issue? I find it extremely bothersome and I have never had any such problems with any of my previous cars. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

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Teensy mirrors do suck! There is no easy remediation.

I solve my issues with top down operation.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:49 AM
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Teensy mirrors do suck! There is no easy remediation.

I solve my issues with top down operation.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. Can you elaborate?
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:37 AM
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What about parking? Its a right pain trying to guess where the rear of the car is as it drops below the rear window line. Been thinking it might be an excuse to add the rear lip spoiler / wing. Works on Imprezas!
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There are ways to adjust your outside mirrors to minimize your blind spots, you'll have to search for that.

One trick for pulling back in: Don't pull back in until you see the car your passing in your INSIDE rear view mirror, signal your intention and count to 2. Been working for me for 49 years.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:24 AM
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You can also add an aftermarket backup camera. They are on all cars today. Not difficult and if you don’t have a Nav screen, I’ve seen them added to the rear view mirror or even an app on your smartphone.


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Old 08-16-2018, 08:07 AM
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I'll echo what others have said. I had a neck fusion C5-7 last year, I started adjusting my mirrors using this method. It'll take about a week or so to get used to it, but it makes a huge difference.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...id-blind-spots
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Turn your upper torso so you don't strain your neck when looking to the rear over your shoulder.
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Try the HAMMACHER SCHLEMMER No Blind Spot Rear View Mirror (sorry I can't say the company name without laughing )

https://www.hammacher.com/product/no...ar-view-mirror
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:04 PM
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Euro Aspheric Mirrors

There have been multiple threads on the topic.

The pre-LCI mirrors are small, and the cars BMW sells in Europe have aspheric wide-view mirrors.

Here are a few of the threads.

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...ferrerid=40703

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...ferrerid=40703

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Old 08-17-2018, 09:55 AM
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I just take my time and look over my shoulder to check my blind spot. But I try to pick fairly open gaps in the traffic to change lanes so I don't have to thread a needle to move. The mirrors are small, but I try to move them out, so that the inside edge just barely overlaps the outside edge in my inside rear view mirror. That gives me good coverage in all the mirrors and then I turn my head to be sure. I have a 2008 e92 and after almost 11 years, I've gotten used to it. I have a Jeep with much larger outside mirrors, but they still have a blind spot. My Jeep blind spot detector works well and I still tend to look over my shoulder.

The biggest problem I have is backing out of parking space next between two big SUV's. There is no fix for that without a cross traffic sensor. I just back out slowly and hope I don't hit someone I can't see.

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The best solution isn't easy or cheap, but is devastatingly effective.

Look at my Avatar - do you see the VR goggles? Yep, VR is the future and drivers can have a 360° view! Program eye tracking to accelerate rotation --> a simple left or right movement of the eyes allows you to look over your shoulder with amazing detail.

This approach makes the car disappear and opens up the entire field of vision. Combined with 8K Cameras and AI, vehicles cutting in and out of traffic, tailgating, and Smokey Bears are easily highlighted and ID'd in your display. Problems solved before they occur!

Gentlemen, VR is the future and the die is cast. Even when autonomy rules you may wish to have a look around; take a break from whatever VR channel you're into, and this is the very best way to do it.




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Old 08-19-2018, 11:18 AM
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I use a wide angle mirror by Broadway: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...HIAqsOIcNxHsHM
It's $11 and clips onto the existing mirror. It has helped a lot in terms of being able to see around me, but it's not a perfect solution, the A and C pillars are just huge on my 328i and they block my view all the time. If you want to go to extremes, you can get a racing mirror that goes completely across the width of your car: https://www.amazon.com/Allstar-ALL76...=racing+mirror
I used to have one of these and it did work but was a pain to install.

Please also consider the little baby circular mirrors ($7) that stick onto your side mirrors for enhanced visibility: https://www.amazon.com/Convex-Framel...+mirror+circle

For $20 you can really enhance your visibility.

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Old 08-23-2018, 06:43 AM
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Thanks for all the replies.. I'll look into some of those fancy mirrors/cameras.. Quite a few to choose from…. Hopefully one of them will help me.

Just to clarify, my issue is not really that of blind spots as such (I already have my mirrors set up as a few you suggested and they appear to virtually eliminate any semblance of blind spots), but rather the difficulty of being able to judge how close cars in other lanes actually are because of the distorted image in my mirrors and then the difficulty of doing a final head check because of the obstructions I mentioned.

I am actually a bit confused by something.. I was originally under the impression that only the outer edge (beyond the line) of the side mirrors was convex and makes objects look smaller/further away, but I am now convinced that the whole of the side mirrors actually makes objects look smaller when compared to the internal rear view mirror.. Am I mistaken?
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Old 08-27-2018, 04:29 AM
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What I find crazy is that both sides of this mirror make objects look further away than they really are but to different degrees. The only 'normal' mirror is the internal rear vision mirror. So, there are essentially 3 totally different mirrors to contend with and completing a head check is extremely difficult. I just think the whole design of this car is very dangerous.
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