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Old 08-28-2017, 01:47 PM
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E90--fantastic car, but do I really need it?

Hi everyone. I am at a quandary. I recently lost my mk6 GTI. I've been driving several cars with my limited budget and everything falls short. Civic LX has a nice rev-happy engine with a fantastic shifter but looks like an alien ship. Mazda 3 does a great job with the interior but feels to electronic. The mk7 is way too soft for my liking, and I will never be completely satisfied with it the way I was with the mk6.

Enter the E90. I have the opportunity to own a real unicorn of a car--inline 6, naturally aspirated, manual. It has 62K miles, and the owner did a good job keeping up with the maintenance. It felt very stiff and solid, not something you get nowadays.

Reasons to get the E90--
1. Last of its kind
2. Everything I can want in a car

Reasons not to
1. Cost of ownership
2. Potential long term reilability
3. Ummm....heavy clutch maybe?

Reasons to get the Mazda 3
1. Feels easier to drive. 'Flingable' is the word I'm looking for. The BMW feels very planted and is responsive (the owner was gracious enough to let me take it on some back roads). Clutch is light
2. Probably less headaches down the road, has warranty
3. Nice and shiny

Reasons not to
1. Dime a dozen. It's a well-made car but it won't rival the legendary Bavarian engineering.


So basically this just comes down to a wallet vs heart.

One reason also I am not sure about the E90 is that I don't need a well-made car to enjoy driving. I took a rental Corolla (with a stick shift and above-average tires) up the same mountain roads and still had a good time. A case in point that the car doesn't make the driver. With the Mazda 3, I have an easier daily driver, easier on the wallet, and will get at least 80% of the fun that I'll have with the E90, if that is quantifiable.

but I feel like letting this one go will just haunt me forever, to have a well taken care of BMW of yore.
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Old 08-28-2017, 02:46 PM
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The E90 feels just right. Clutch is easy - my 2008 E91 is a smooth-shifting dream. If it's not, have it checked out. No reason to fear reliability, just keep up with small stuff and acknowledge that eventually things wear out. That's part of why you buy used - you spend less money on the purchase, pay some back in maintenance.

The Mazda 3 gets great reviews, and probably will be less expensive in the long run. But my wife and I both like the E90 series and they have been highly reliable for us.
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Old 08-28-2017, 03:01 PM
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Do what your wallet says or allows. Don't fall for "a" car, there are too many out there.
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Old 08-28-2017, 04:18 PM
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I owned a 2008 328xi for three years/65k (bought with 62k already on the OD) miles and the only maintenance I had to do besides tires/brakes were replacing the o2 sensor and the spark plugs. I guess now I also recall replacing both air filters. I handed it off to my mother after I replaced it with my f10 but I must say, I put that e90 through it's stages the other day and it's still one hell of a fun and solid car.

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Old 08-29-2017, 07:34 AM
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Bottom line: you pay to play.

I've been down that same road a few times now and I've always ended up choosing the BMW. Sometimes I kick myself for not getting a Mazda or Subaru when I have to complete some silly repair on one of the Bimmers.

It's up to you to balance the need vs. want factors in your heart and wallet.

That said a 328 manual is a fun and mostly reliable daily driver.


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Just do it.

Worst case scenario it would be a total disaster & completely unreliable. Best case scenario it would be run perfectly with little to no issues. It's a risk but I think its one worth taking.

I knew it could be a nightmare when I got my first bmw but I did it anyway cuz life's short & buyer remorse is a horrible feeling.
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Believe it or not this is the way that I handle the situation that you are in, and I do it for things other than cars too. When I am really having a hard time deciding and I truly am torn between two options I give one of them heads and the other tails and I flip a coin. If I am disappointed in the outcome then I know which one I really wanted. If, on the other hand I am ok with the outcome then I stick with that option.
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What you need: Honda

What you want: mk6 GTI

>Ahem<....get another.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:23 AM
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IF you are concerned about the cost of repairs for a BMW or any car for that matter, you can't afford it. Get a Kia or a Hyundai. No one NEEDS a BMW. It is an aspirational buy. You buy it because you HAVE TO HAVE it. If you don't feel that way about it, get the Mazda.
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Old 08-30-2017, 07:25 AM
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Why not just buy another mk6 GTI.....I'm baffled you never mentioned this considering all praise you gave it.

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Old 08-30-2017, 07:39 AM
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Why not just buy another mk6 GTI.....I'm baffled you never mentioned this considering all praise you gave it.

Dude! Bafflement's a way of life at Bimmerfest....
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No you don't need it. They are great cars, however based on what the OP said they will be just as happy with another likely more reliable make. Why take the risk if you feel that way?
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:45 AM
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I've been driving several cars with my limited budget and everything falls short. Civic LX has a nice rev-happy engine with a fantastic shifter but looks like an alien ship. Mazda 3 does a great job with the interior but feels to electronic. The mk7 is way too soft for my liking, and I will never be completely satisfied with it the way I was with the mk6.

One reason also I am not sure about the E90 is that I don't need a well-made car to enjoy driving. I took a rental Corolla (with a stick shift and above-average tires) up the same mountain roads and still had a good time. A case in point that the car doesn't make the driver. With the Mazda 3, I have an easier daily driver, easier on the wallet, and will get at least 80% of the fun that I'll have with the E90, if that is quantifiable.
I'm confused. In your first paragraph you say you're looking for a car that doesn't fall short of your expectations. Yet in your last paragraph, you say that you have fun with a rental Corolla.

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