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Old 11-25-2015, 02:42 AM
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here's a picture of the control module(s) under the seat. the one on the right is the one you need to change and code.
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Old 11-25-2015, 03:43 AM
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here's a picture of the control module(s) under the seat. the one on the right is the one you need to change and code.
Just to be clear here, to make sure everyone gets the right information.

The module on the right is your seat module, this in fact does not require any coding but does need to be replaced.

The module on the left is your seat safety satellite module and is the one that requires coding but not replacing (unless LCI to pre-LCI)

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Old 11-25-2015, 08:17 AM
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good info!
The harness I am missing is for the rear seat. Looks like different main wiring harnesses for non- comfort cars on realoem.

The front is all good, although the line to the massage bladder is broken Not sure anyone uses them anyway
Both vehicles are pre-facelift so that is good.
I added the switches to the console and swapped safety modules with my original seats.
Should be good to go in a bit.
Thanks for all the help!
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Old 11-25-2015, 08:58 AM
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comfort seats retrofitting

Are you retrofitting rear comfort seats in a non comfort seat car? Because that's a whole different ball game.

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Old 11-25-2015, 09:02 AM
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Also, is the line not fixable? Seems a shame!
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Old 11-25-2015, 10:48 AM
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Thanks. No... the line is sheared at the unit and I have since learned the frame is bent a bit on the driver seat.
You are correct in the rear seat being comfort in a non-comfort car so may be too big of a project.
One more question..
What should the SSFA and SSBF modules read for the active headrest. I am using the modules that came with the seats so I am assuming they should be coded correctly.
It currently reads

AKTIVE KOPFSTUETZE FA
abgesteckt

I know an earlier post asked but didn't see a reply
Just going to clear faults and see what happens
Thanks!
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Old 11-25-2015, 11:19 AM
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Not really sure how to code the SSFA and SSBF modules . Any help would be appreciated.
Everything is working great!
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Old 11-25-2015, 02:17 PM
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If you've got the modules that came with the seat you don't need to code the options. The setting is correct, abgesteckt means fitted.

You will have an safety system error though, It'd be really interesting if you didn't.

To clear that you need to code the vin using Tool32 and then clear faults using INPA
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Old 11-25-2015, 02:23 PM
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comfort seats retrofitting

Comfort rear retrofit is a tricky one, I did it with the donor car standing next to my car and it was still a pain although I tried to ensure I could use the other car again :-) you need more than just seats and modules, you need or need to make all the wiring, control modules, control module carriers, rear side trims, seat belts, boot trims (sides And back) and lots of trims etc...

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Old 11-26-2015, 07:45 AM
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Thanks Permituk!
I have found the same info so good to reaffirm. Coding the vin to the modules is next. Clearing codes is easy.
The rear seat only has heating so it's not the comfort. I have fitted the seat and center armrest but only have the heating module seat and switches at this point.
Will need to find a schematic and figure out all the details. We are celebrating Thanksgiving today so have a great day over there!
J
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:35 AM
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Stuck on Winkfp.
Wow! harder than I thought.
When I go into tool32 it does not recognize my assembly numbers and when I go to zb update the ecu list is blank. Spent about 6 hours on the internet trying to sort out the problem
No luck
My daten files are there as when I try to import it wants to overwrite. Daten files are from 2012.
Not even sure it is communicating with the car but INPA and ncs expert work fine.
Brain is starting to melt. Guess I will take a break.
Any help would be appreciated
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Old 11-27-2015, 02:25 PM
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Why are you using Winkfp?
Make sure that inpa is closed, not just minimised as it will make other Comms over obd fail, at least that's true for mine.

So open tool32, select file, navigate to ediabas\ecu\ssfa.prg (or ssbf.prg for passenger) then in jobs select c_fg_schreiben then in arguments write the whole 18 digit vin and then push the start button. Then you can do c_fg_lesen to check it. Hope that helps.
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Old 04-13-2018, 04:24 AM
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Hello guys!

Just bought comfort interior and will be changing it. BUT what iam reading here, the rear comfort retrofit will be pain...

Anyone done that and can help?
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Old 04-14-2018, 02:37 AM
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Hi I have only done the front seats. It was a 2006 E65, convert heated sports seats to comfort seats with heating and cooling. Swapping the seats was easy enough just four bolts. Lift the seat to its highest position and remove the four torx bolts and the seat belt bolt. Position the seat with backrest forward and headrest down (its easier to remove) Then disconnect the battery and unplug the connectors below the seat. Wrap and thick blanket around the seat base before removing it (its heavy and its easy to scratch the cars trim when removing) The seats can then be removed, its worth popping the new seats in just quickly to test they work before doing anything else ( I found the seat occupancy detector was faulty in the replacement seats and had to get a bypass unit) If you need to fit a new control panel the center console needs to be dismantled and the front seats need to be out for this anyway. (there's various youtube videos to show you how it comes apart) Once its all back together the car will need coded to add the new options to the "Order List" in the cars modules. I actually found that the heating and cooling worked with out any coding but the airbag light would be on as the comfort seats have "active headrests" and the other seat options dont. I got a local BMW specialist to code in the new seats and it all worked fine. Its a bit of work but worth doing as the seats are very comfortable. Remember to take photos especially if you want to sell on your old seats. Good luck David.
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