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Old 03-03-2010, 02:01 AM
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Interesting. My indy recognized this piece from the picture in the link right away. He said this is a wear-and-tear item and is not replaced under warranty! He said it should be around under $100, not the outrageous $1k I have been quoted before (I thin kthat guy wanted to replace the WHOLE drive shaft, not just the flex disk)
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Old 03-03-2010, 08:50 PM
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damn that sucks... Well let us know if that if that fixes the problem.... for the second time
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Old 03-04-2010, 12:40 PM
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Interesting. My indy recognized this piece from the picture in the link right away. He said this is a wear-and-tear item and is not replaced under warranty! He said it should be around under $100, not the outrageous $1k I have been quoted before (I thin kthat guy wanted to replace the WHOLE drive shaft, not just the flex disk)
let us know man, I have the same issue, if your indy is a good person and fixed your problem, perhaps I will go there as well
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Old 04-03-2010, 01:11 PM
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How did a software update fix a leak?

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I had this problem, tranny was leaking and I got the softwear update...problem is now gone....my car started to down shift kind of roughly3 weeks after the update, BMW claims its the Mass air flow sensor... I'm gonna have it replaced in the near future
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Old 04-03-2010, 04:49 PM
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Guibo is covered under SIB for E65.
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Old 04-05-2010, 08:03 PM
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Is the guibo covered under the CPO warranty?
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:20 AM
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Good news!

Got the transmission issue fixed.

Back last year a BMW technician tried to update the software, but it was a no go, as the system was giving an error saying the Telco board had a system error and needed to be replaced.

Well, I did not replace the board. So, last month it was time to do the 80K service, and I took it to a local imports shop in Grapevine. The guys there were aware of this common issue and he told me that, based on his experience, the best fix is to replace the transmission fluid pan (I guess), which uses a new type of filter, and then do the software update.

BINGO! I picked it up from the shop next day, and it is a brand new car! The problem is gone and the transmission has a much smoother performance shifting down when I slowing down to a stop.

So, after months of frustration I can definitely tell you that it is fixed.

Let me know if you need the name of the shop.

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Old 09-09-2010, 09:20 AM
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So, last month it was time to do the 80K service, and I took it to a local imports shop in Grapevine.
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Can you tell me which shop in Grapevine? Thanks!
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Old 09-09-2010, 09:29 AM
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Here it is:

Import Car Center - www.importcarcenter.com
1010 W NorthWest Hwy, Grapevine - (817) 481-5665

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Old 09-09-2010, 06:30 PM
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ok, just saw this one..... I thought it was my getting used to this car..... I'm finding the same thing....... if I'm really careful and slowly come to a stop it's fine but sometimes it really does jolt..... alright,..... I'm taking my car in on Monday and it's still under warranty. They are giving me a new Nav system, they're going to look at my sunroof (but now, thanks to the info on this fest site, I now know what to tell them about the strip!!!), now, what exactly do I need to ask or tell them about re: this "jolting" motion. Please, remember,
while I love my car, I'm not great at all of the "lingo". Could someone give me the kindergarten version of how to ask about this?
BTW, this is such an awesome website!!!!!! People are amazingly helpful!! very very cool!
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Old 09-10-2010, 05:54 PM
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tell then you have the guibo problem.
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Old 09-10-2010, 06:33 PM
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ok, I just looked up what "guibo" means and now I understand it's referring to the drivetrain..... but the website I looked at talked about a "clicking" noise which would indicate the wear....
I haven't heard any clicking and the jerking/jolting seems rather inconsistent at this time.. I've really been paying a lot of attention to it since first reading this post....
so do you still think it's the guibo or something else? I just don't want to come across to the service guys like an idiot, paranoid female...... I much prefer to come across as educated and prepared which is why I've come to you all for help Thanks so much everyone!
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Old 09-10-2010, 11:29 PM
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Could it be the control arm bushing?
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Old 09-11-2010, 12:50 AM
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My 2006 lunges a bit just before coming to a stop, thought it was normal.... Now I know better. Is this covered under the maintenance warranty I still have?
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:09 AM
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So many people, on and OFF forums, experience transmission problems with their 7. Mine, my friends, etc. Worst partis taking it to Sdealer and getting ripped off and/or them unable to fix the problem, ie incorrectly diagnose the problem, work the problem, and get charged for it anyway.

For such an expensive and high-end car, I think it comes with a lot of issues. I still love my 7, but it does come with its share of issues of computer and non-computer related. Good luck with your fix, and fellas here are super helpful so their advise may help you and help save $$$ too.
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Old 09-11-2010, 05:48 AM
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ok guys, taking it in on Monday........ what should I ask about???? Guibo, control arm bushing ????? Like I said, I don't want to sound like I'm just coming in with a bucket full of complaints and have them roll their eyes at me......I want to get stuff taken care of and want them to be sure to take me seriously! Thanks!!!
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Old 09-11-2010, 06:06 AM
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I had this problem, tranny was leaking and I got the softwear update...problem is now gone....my car started to down shift kind of roughly3 weeks after the update, BMW claims its the Mass air flow sensor... I'm gonna have it replaced in the near future
I was told by many it was the mass air flow sensor as well. When I replaced it the problem was gone for about 30 days. Recently it returned, and it returned with vengence. It's much much, MUCH worser than ever. Let me know how it works for you when you replace it. Also, if you order the MAF online you'll be saving over 50% off local price.

(I'm not at all stating not to change your MAF if you're having similar issues! It's only my experience. For others it worked just fine.)

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Old 09-15-2010, 12:20 AM
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I would say to use manual shift and see if it happens if it doesnt its not the tranny. i hear of that happening when the car is pushed before it warms up. Also check without the a/c off if its happening with it on. i never go over 2500 rpm when i first get moving. Once that orange light goes off then i roll (its on the rpm gauge).
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:55 PM
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check your driveshaft bushings. mine was bad and did the same thing...it stopped after the dealer replaced it.
Is it still fixed? Did it come back? Thanks.
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:43 AM
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So, I dont ever really notice a jolt coming to a stop. I notice mine AFTER I turn the car off and remove the key, the car "releases" and moves about 2".. Does anyone else experience this?
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:02 AM
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So, I dont ever really notice a jolt coming to a stop. I notice mine AFTER I turn the car off and remove the key, the car "releases" and moves about 2".. Does anyone else experience this?
i have the same thing... i always thought it was normal but maybe i was wrong?!
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Good news!

Got the transmission issue fixed.

Back last year a BMW technician tried to update the software, but it was a no go, as the system was giving an error saying the Telco board had a system error and needed to be replaced.

Well, I did not replace the board. So, last month it was time to do the 80K service, and I took it to a local imports shop in Grapevine. The guys there were aware of this common issue and he told me that, based on his experience, the best fix is to replace the transmission fluid pan (I guess), which uses a new type of filter, and then do the software update.

BINGO! I picked it up from the shop next day, and it is a brand new car! The problem is gone and the transmission has a much smoother performance shifting down when I slowing down to a stop.

So, after months of frustration I can definitely tell you that it is fixed.

Let me know if you need the name of the shop.

Regards,

DFW745.

This is an old thread, but I just wanted to add my experience for the benefit of others...

I have a 2008 650i convertible which I purchased about 6 months ago w/ 52k miles (it's now up to 57k).

Pretty much since I bought the car, I have experienced a major thunk/jerk when slowing to a complete stop. Just before the car stops completely, it lurches forward. I have seen other people say this almost feels like you have been struck/bumped from behind by another car. My issue wasn't quite that severe. I would just say it felt like the torque converter was locked up and wasn't fully releasing as the car slowed to a complete stop.

Anyway, I have seen tons of people posting similar comments, but you don't always hear how the issue was resolved, so here's what happened for me.

I took my car to a local import "specialist" that I had never used before. I described the issue and hoped they could diagnose it, or perhaps they already knew how to fix it based on past experience.

The first guy I spoke to said he was 99% sure this was an electronic issue that could be fixed by either: A.) "resetting" the transmission computer; or B.) replacing the transmission computer (if bad).

I took the car into the shop and left it for a few days. I then received a call from the shop owner. He initially told me I needed new front brakes (um, no I don't, and that's not what I wanted you to look at). Eventually, we talked about the tranny issue, and he told me he wanted to "try" doing a fluid change and computer reset. The way he said this made it sound like he was guessing.....which is NOT what I wanted to hear.

Maybe it was due to the fact that he started the conversation by trying to upsell me on a brake job that I did not want or need, but I started to feel like I couldn't trust the shop owner. Shocking, I know...

Anyway, as we were talking I asked him how much the tranny fluid change would cost. His answer = $939.00. He said the computer reset would take about an hour of labor.

At that point, I said to the guy: "Look, if you do both the computer and the fluid and the problem is fixed, then we won't know which one was the problem. So, let's just try the computer reset and see if that works." The guy reluctantly agreed.

Well, I picked up my car yesterday and paid the bill -- slightly over $100 for 1 hour of labor.

And guess what? The car drives like new. The thunk/lurch issue is 99% gone, and it shifts SOOOO much smoother now. AMAZING!

Clearly, tranny issues can have lots of causes, and I am sure that sometimes a new flex/guibo disc may help. However, try to remember the basic rules of troubleshooting -- start with the small/easy things first and see if you get results. In my case, that's what we did and I am extremely happy that I didn't spend $1k on the fluid change at the same time as the computer reset. Obviously this would have worked, but I would have spent 10x more than needed.
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This is an old thread, but I just wanted to add my experience for the benefit of others...

I have a 2008 650i convertible which I purchased about 6 months ago w/ 52k miles (it's now up to 57k).

Pretty much since I bought the car, I have experienced a major thunk/jerk when slowing to a complete stop. Just before the car stops completely, it lurches forward. I have seen other people say this almost feels like you have been struck/bumped from behind by another car. My issue wasn't quite that severe. I would just say it felt like the torque converter was locked up and wasn't fully releasing as the car slowed to a complete stop.

Anyway, I have seen tons of people posting similar comments, but you don't always hear how the issue was resolved, so here's what happened for me.

I took my car to a local import "specialist" that I had never used before. I described the issue and hoped they could diagnose it, or perhaps they already knew how to fix it based on past experience.

The first guy I spoke to said he was 99% sure this was an electronic issue that could be fixed by either: A.) "resetting" the transmission computer; or B.) replacing the transmission computer (if bad).

I took the car into the shop and left it for a few days. I then received a call from the shop owner. He initially told me I needed new front brakes (um, no I don't, and that's not what I wanted you to look at). Eventually, we talked about the tranny issue, and he told me he wanted to "try" doing a fluid change and computer reset. The way he said this made it sound like he was guessing.....which is NOT what I wanted to hear.

Maybe it was due to the fact that he started the conversation by trying to upsell me on a brake job that I did not want or need, but I started to feel like I couldn't trust the shop owner. Shocking, I know...

Anyway, as we were talking I asked him how much the tranny fluid change would cost. His answer = $939.00. He said the computer reset would take about an hour of labor.

At that point, I said to the guy: "Look, if you do both the computer and the fluid and the problem is fixed, then we won't know which one was the problem. So, let's just try the computer reset and see if that works." The guy reluctantly agreed.

Well, I picked up my car yesterday and paid the bill -- slightly over $100 for 1 hour of labor.

And guess what? The car drives like new. The thunk/lurch issue is 99% gone, and it shifts SOOOO much smoother now. AMAZING!

Clearly, tranny issues can have lots of causes, and I am sure that sometimes a new flex/guibo disc may help. However, try to remember the basic rules of troubleshooting -- start with the small/easy things first and see if you get results. In my case, that's what we did and I am extremely happy that I didn't spend $1k on the fluid change at the same time as the computer reset. Obviously this would have worked, but I would have spent 10x more than needed.
David,
I had a similar issue on my 07' E65, and like you said, the problem is gone after I clear the error codes. I didn't pay a dime cuz I have INPA and a computer.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:39 PM
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David,
I had a similar issue on my 07' E65, and like you said, the problem is gone after I clear the error codes. I didn't pay a dime cuz I have INPA and a computer.

Outstanding! Just in case I need to do this again in the future, can you let me know what hardware is needed to clear the code? Sorry, but I don't know what an "INPA" is.

Oh, wait, are you talking about something like this?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/INPA-Ediabas...-/131774081994

WOW....is that really all it took? I don't mind spending $100 on pro service, but maybe I should also get one of these.

Can you recommend a specific one?
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