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Old 03-11-2016, 07:25 AM
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I have a 2013 X3 28i that was purchased new and has had all BMW recommended maintenance at a BMW dealer. I have just over 80k miles on the car. A couple of days ago, the timing chain broke and blew the engine. The dealer first told me it was going to cost over 20k to replace the engine. BMW got involved and now I'm told it will cost just over 15k plus taxes. I started checking online and noticed that BMW has had a lot of problems with the timing chain, however they don't list the X3 as one of the cars with the problem. At 3.5 years old and 80k miles, I would think the timing chain shouldn't break, and definitely shouldn't cost 1/3 of a new car to repair. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Thanks
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Old 03-15-2016, 02:00 AM
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As a long time lurker, this is the first time Im hearing of a problem like this. If I had anticipated driving almost 23k miles per year, which is way above average , I would have purchased an extended warranty to begin with.
If you dont have one, then I am afraid the dough needs to be shelled out, these cars are known to cost a bomb to fix even smaller items. A blown engine is the epitome of expensive BMW repairs
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:50 AM
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A timing chain does not break without a BIG reason. Something caused it to break.
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:23 AM
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A timing chain does not break without a BIG reason. Something caused it to break.
That is certainly true. But since you are not under warranty, start looking for an indy mechanic with a good rep. that can do an engine swap for you. Even if it is a used engine.
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Old 05-17-2016, 05:20 PM
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Hi I have the same car (2.8) with 66k miles. Mine was whistling around 1500/2000 rpm so took it in thinking it was something simple. NO CHECK ENGINE light or anything. They told me it was one of the worst cases they'd seen and I was lucky I didn't blow the engine. If it was that close, I'd like to know why there was no sensor. I'm in it for $5600 to repair. They did say that it's a known BMW problem. Praying for a recall.

Please let me know if they end up covering your engine. I'd go ballistic if my engine had blown.

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Old 05-17-2016, 09:50 PM
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Was the "...2013 X3 28i..." on the VANOS recall?
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:11 AM
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https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=912547

Read my post. I think this may be my problem also.

We might need to start a support group.

2013 x3 28i 53,000 miles.

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Old 06-27-2016, 12:46 PM
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My Timing chain is being replaced also! 2013 X3 28i
I am so upset with the quality of BMW lately! So upsetting!!!!!!! I'm worried that because the service dept. keeps finding issues and ordering/replacing parts at the dealership, that I will have more major issues down the road! I only have 7k miles til my warranty is done too

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Old 07-06-2016, 02:40 PM
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i have a 2014 x3 and have about 28K miles on it when about 4 weeks ago, i heard loud noise from the engine. The result of that, engine replacement and good thing its still under warranty. I just picked it up yesterday as it was in the shop for about 3 weeks long. My warranty will be done Aug of 2017 and the dealership wont extend my warranty since i still have a year left. They said that if i paid for the the engine replacement, i would get a 2 yr warranty. So i dont know what to make of this and sounds kind of dumb so i have wrote to BMW USA to get their take on this issue. Waiting to hear from them as i just wrote to them today.

I have a thread post under "2014 X3_Replace new motor" if anyone can comment on about warranty of a new engine replacement.
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Old 07-07-2016, 11:55 AM
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I have a 2013 X3 3.0 engine with about 44,200 miles. Does this engine have the plastic timing chain alignment guard. I asked my service advisor and he said no but he didn't look too sure. Thanks
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:43 AM
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Sorry to hear about your car and i hope you have extended warranty. but its really scary to hear such things, did it gave you any kind of warnings before it blew up the engine, i mean it should give us some kind of warning right otherwise how will we know. How often will BMWs have these kind of problems, as far i know the timing chain/belt needs to be changed for any car between 80K to 100K miles is it also true with BMWs? i know a friend who had the same kind of problem. so my question is, is it common known issue ?
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:30 PM
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Timing Chain replacement.

Timing chain replacement is not done as a normal service item as Belt driven motors are at 100 k.The belts are external and easy to get to where as chains are all internal and a big job to replace. I believe it is the timing chain guides that are the problem (plastic) which break and allow the chain to come of !!! It seems incredible to me that they still have a problem with this as the V8 motor in the very early X5 had exactly the same problem timing chains coming of due to guide failure. In 04 the new N62 engine was modified with no more problems . I have a X5 N62 done 232,000 kilometers never had a problem. I wonder why BMW are still having problems now 10 yrs latter?

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Old 02-03-2017, 10:40 AM
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I have a 2013 X328i Xdrive with 86000 km. Pulled over a few night ago with a low oil pressure waring light and had it towed to the dealer.

I was advised the PLASTIC timing chain guard failed and is in bit and pieces.

The dealer wants to replace the engine with a new one for a cool 30K.

Seeing as its only 6k over the factory warranty we will see what happens.

I find it hard to believe the engine has to be replaced. I suspect the the engine could be flushed, drain pan removed and cleaned. Oil pump screen checked for debris, and a compression test should clear the valves.

Seems to me that the first step a dealer takes is to replace the engine.

I have also seen several complaints regarding the timing chain guard for the N20 engine. It appears to be a common problem. I also suspect that when it is replaced a redesigned one is installed which is an indicator BMW is aware the factory installed guard is a POS causing engine failures.

Not impressed.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:00 AM
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My timing chain also failed, 2011 x3 f25 28I 95k. Engine is shot.
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Old 02-15-2017, 09:47 AM
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BMW first agreed to cover 50% of the 31,000 repair under "good Faith". I wrote a letter to the warranty department and BMW has now agreed to cover 2/3 of the repairs which still leaves me with a 10500 bill.

I now have a complaint in with the customer service department.

I have confirmed the timing chain guide has been redesigned. A clear indicator the original guide is prone to failure.

If anyone out there can provide me with a detailed account of their timing chain guide experience and what if any thing BMW did to help with the repairs I would appreciate it.

If BMW has covered 100% of the repairs it would set the standard. I could use that information while negotiating with customer care. Please forward the information to my email: [email protected]
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:57 PM
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There are a couple of threads related to the n20 and timing chain issues.

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=422

Do you all drive in Eco Pro mode? It seems the stop start action (ASS) is causing stress to the chain which in turns impacts the plastic guides.
BTW plastic guides are use by many cars not just BMW 4-pots.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:52 PM
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Hi ! I am having the same timing chain problem with my 2013 x3. There was no indication that anything was wrong with my car. A couple of weeks ago an alert all a sudden came up saying drive train malfunction. It was immediately towed to the dealership. The foreman states it needs a motor....my truck has only 98,000 miles. This is totally ridiculous and the repair cost are outrageous. Do you mind giving me information on who I can contact? Something should be done about this. There are too many people having this same problem.

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BMW first agreed to cover 50% of the 31,000 repair under "good Faith". I wrote a letter to the warranty department and BMW has now agreed to cover 2/3 of the repairs which still leaves me with a 10500 bill.

I now have a complaint in with the customer service department.

I have confirmed the timing chain guide has been redesigned. A clear indicator the original guide is prone to failure.

If anyone out there can provide me with a detailed account of their timing chain guide experience and what if any thing BMW did to help with the repairs I would appreciate it.

If BMW has covered 100% of the repairs it would set the standard. I could use that information while negotiating with customer care. Please forward the information to my email: [email protected]

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Old 02-15-2017, 09:01 PM
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I am so glad I got rid of my 2011 X3 2.8. I had the drivetrain malfunction error but timing chain didn't break, only cylinder head replaced and it was covered under warranty.

I hope BMW takes care of everyone's vehicle but I think it will be an uphill battle.
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:44 AM
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There will be more and more of similar cases. I wish people with failed chains team-up and consider class-action lawsuit. VW community achieve a lot by reporting each case to NHTSA. Just a hint.
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:48 PM
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New N20, full set - $6,100

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2012-201...VXFZQe&vxp=mtr
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:12 AM
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Damn guys!!! I have 2014 X3 35I M with around 46500 and you guys are scaring the hell out of me where I don't want to drive the vehicle!! Forgot who mentioned it above but now I keep the stop start action (ASS) off all the time as that might be a reason...YIKES
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:37 AM
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I have 2014 X3 35I M ... and you guys are scaring the hell out of me
You are easy to scare. You have N55 engine inside. Cool down....
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:32 PM
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You are easy to scare. You have N55 engine inside. Cool down....
I'm cool..hahah

Are you saying it's not prone to the N55?
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:37 PM
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Same exact issue with mine.

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I have a 2013 X3 28i that was purchased new and has had all BMW recommended maintenance at a BMW dealer. I have just over 80k miles on the car. A couple of days ago, the timing chain broke and blew the engine. The dealer first told me it was going to cost over 20k to replace the engine. BMW got involved and now I'm told it will cost just over 15k plus taxes. I started checking online and noticed that BMW has had a lot of problems with the timing chain, however they don't list the X3 as one of the cars with the problem. At 3.5 years old and 80k miles, I would think the timing chain shouldn't break, and definitely shouldn't cost 1/3 of a new car to repair. Has anyone else had a problem like this? Thanks
I have a same exact issue. 2013 x3 28i. 83000 miles.
Bought as brand new, always maintained at BMW service center even oil change.
just did tune up couple month ago, spent around 3k for whatever they did.

I was driving to work few days ago, then oil pressure sign came up.
and engine shut downed couple min after.
I took it to BMW service center, and they told me that timing chain got chewed up and it went in oil pannel. then it blewed engine.
warranty was expried and they asked for $28000 to replace the engine!!
then I spoke with manager and they offered to take labor out so 15k to fix it.
I googled around and I notice that there are same issue for this car.
they need to recall this. let me know if anyone find solution for this.
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:19 PM
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I'm cool..hahah

Are you saying it's not prone to the N55?
Somebody please idiot-check me on the dates here.

The 35i is a straight 6 cylinder turbocharged engine, the N55. Worry about systemic problems with the water pump, the thermostat module, and an oil leak around the oil filter housing, but not the timing chain.

The original F25 X3 28i engine was a straight 6-cylinder normally aspirated engine, the N52. I haven't seen any common problems reported with the N52, but I wouldn't have been looking for them either.

Somewhere around end-of-year 2011, for the 2012 model year, BMW changed the 28i engine to the N20, a straight-4 turbocharged engine. The N20 is the engine which people are currently talking about, with failed engines due to problems with the timing chain guide.

Somewhere around the 2014 model year, which would have begun with April 2013 production, BMW modified the timing chain guide in the N20. That may or may not have cured the problem - time will tell.

So, bottom line, your 35i may have different problems, but they're significantly less expensive to repair then the N20 timing chain issue. You're potentially looking at $2000 or so if you experience all three. N20 owners are looking at $15,000 - $20,000 if they have a timing chain failure and can't get any assist from BMW NA.

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