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F80 BMW M3 sedan, F82 BMW M4 coupe and F83 M4 convertible forum. This 5th generation M3 and all new M4 features a 3.0 liter twin turbo engine (engine code S55) 425hp and 406lbs of torque! Heavy use of light weight materials makes this generation lighter and faster then the outgoing E9x M3.

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Old 10-09-2019, 02:00 PM
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Hey guys, so I've heard two sides to the story for staggered tires. Do you guys still rotate them left to right for the front and left a right on the rear? Some folks recommend doing it and some folks say it makes no difference. I'm curious as to what you guys think?
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:17 PM
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I've been told by sources I respect, that it will go a long way to balancing wear on respective axles
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:10 AM
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Are you remounting the tires on opposite wheels?
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Just getting brand new tires. On a non staggered setup, I always rotate tires every 5k miles. On my staggered setup, shop is saying left to right is up to owner's discretion but they don't see differences when people rotate left to right.
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:21 AM
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Is tread directional design meaningful?

The NOKIAN WR G3 SUV on my X5 have direction markings that I prefer to observe.
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If tires are directional; usually indicated by an arrow on sidewall going in one direction, do. NOT swap side to side.
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You don't rotate directional staggered tires. They are left side/right side only tires & will me marked with a rotation arrow & usually "left" "right"
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Directional, high-performance tires have gone out of vogue, being replaced with asymmetric high-performance tires. Asymmetric tires are usually not directional. There are (were) asymmetric, directional high-performance tires. When you bought a tire, you had to specify "left" or "right."

Many (real) winter tires are directional.

Side-to-side rotation of asymmetric tires on a staggered set-up can even out wear, and it diminishes feathering. Both of my cars exhibit higher tire wear on the right side, probably because I take left turns faster than right turns. Also, accelerating from a stop while making a right turn puts more torque on the right tire.

Michelin Pilot Sport's (PS's) were directional, but symmetric. The PS2's, Pilot Super Sports (PSS's), and now PS 4S's are asymmetric, but not directional.
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And I was out in garage with an LED array looking at sidewalls of my MPSS's...if only I had waited.
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Directional, high-performance tires have gone out of vogue, being replaced with asymmetric high-performance tires. Asymmetric tires are usually not directional. There are (were) asymmetric, directional high-performance tires. When you bought a tire, you had to specify "left" or "right."



Many (real) winter tires are directional.



Side-to-side rotation of asymmetric tires on a staggered set-up can even out wear, and it diminishes feathering. Both of my cars exhibit higher tire wear on the right side, probably because I take left turns faster than right turns. Also, accelerating from a stop while making a right turn puts more torque on the right tire.



Michelin Pilot Sport's (PS's) were directional, but symmetric. The PS2's, Pilot Super Sports (PSS's), and now PS 4S's are asymmetric, but not directional.


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