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F10 / F11 (2011 - 2016)
The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 01-17-2020, 12:29 PM
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I have no quarrel with OEM purists or those who are suspicious of inexpensive parts - your car & your hard earned money. That said, after I encountered brake front brake shudder at 70+ mph hard stops (and drinking the no-such-thing-as-warped-BMW-rotors koolaid) I replaced the control arms, no love. Installed these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-2014-20...UAAOSw0Z9dG3FY . After about 6K miles these are still perfect in every way. The way I figure, you could replace them many times over for the cost of a single OEM rotor; and it takes all of half an hour to change out both sides. Safe motoring & Best to all.
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:23 PM
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You convinced me enough to go Zimmerman/Akebono route so I guess I split the difference with myself.
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:05 PM
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You can also use Rockauto, but be sure not to buy anything out of China. Ceramic is best to keep the dust down. I HATE BREAK PAD DUST
I second this, I have used brakes from Rockauto on many of my cars without issue. They are a bit like an "Amazon" for cars as they list many brands for the car you select.

I recall seeing 2 piece rotors for our cars on Rockauto made by Brembo. Seemed like yet another option and I recall they were fairly reasonable at around $100 per. I will likely go that route when I need brakes assuming they still make them.
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Old 01-17-2020, 08:38 PM
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I have no quarrel with OEM purists or those who are suspicious of inexpensive parts - your car & your hard earned money. That said, after I encountered brake front brake shudder at 70+ mph hard stops (and drinking the no-such-thing-as-warped-BMW-rotors koolaid) I replaced the control arms, no love. Installed these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-2014-20...UAAOSw0Z9dG3FY . After about 6K miles these are still perfect in every way. The way I figure, you could replace them many times over for the cost of a single OEM rotor; and it takes all of half an hour to change out both sides. Safe motoring & Best to all.
Itís likely the 1-piece, not the brand that made the difference.

I was also getting the shudder. Thought it was in my head for a while until it was staring me in the face. Switched to 1-piece Zimmermans and Akebono pads and no more shudder. That was 9k miles ago.

If you look at realoem it looks like they swapped from the 2 to the 1-piece rotors. The old 2-piece rotor part number isnít even there anymore I think.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:43 AM
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Well, I called a local BMW dealership and had them confirm that 34116884301 is indeed a one piece design (no rivets, he went and took a look at it). So, it appears BMW has moved to a one piece design after all, at least for this part number.
My car at the moment does have a 2 piece design rotor which it appears I can still get at least on ECS Tuning site (must be leftover stock), everywhere else it's discontinued or no longer available. Also, based on what I have read, this change seems to be only in North America (two piece to one piece). Anyway, moving on.
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Just thought of another question. Surly, if you're out there you mentioned and I noticed the same in parts fiche.

"I also see in there that on vehicles older than 48-months they recommend replacing the retaining spring. First I've heard of that too. It says "See repair manual" - I want to look in TIS and see what it says concerning why. I've never replaced a retaining spring before on other platforms. Granted I don't believe I've seen visible surface rust on my retaining springs before either, until the F10."

What is the part number for this thing? It only seems to be sold as part of a discontinued kit. Is it the same as a Wear indicator clip?
Pagid makes and sells two piece for front and rear. ECS and Rock Auto have them. I have them on the front right now. If you'd like two piece, you can always get those. They're more expensive of course.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-pagid-pa...116775277hckt/

I got the retaining clips from ECS too: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...p/34116799386/ I suspect the may suggest replacement because they are a two piece design (the rectangular plate has a rivet connecting to the arms of the clip) and CYA against corrosion causing them to fail. At $18 each, for the first time I've done front brakes since 2011 and considering the cost of the whole job, I just replaced them like TIS says.

Here's Hella/Pagid's marketing page on two piece rotors: https://www.hella.com/techworld/us/T...ke-discs-9820/

And a PDF they produce: https://www.hella-pagid.com/hellapag...hicle_3.17.pdf

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