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Old 09-21-2016, 04:28 AM
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BMW MRS Error after Coding

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iam recieving multiple MRS after Coding that Unit:
01 MRS OKAY 10 Error stored
93D6 E0
93BA E8
93BB E8
93C1 E8
93AB E8
93B3 E8
93AC E8
93AD E8
93B0 E8
93B1 E8

if iam looking deeply in the MRS iam getting mire infos about the error, see atached file error.pdf

Using Newest SP Daten for e89 drinving an 2009 e87er.

Something that i noteiced is that the VIN changed

See other 2 images Before and after.

Hope Someone can help me.
Maybe someome got the SP Daten back from 2009, so that i can make a rollback?
is there any kind of rollback function?

the first error code seems to say, that the device is not locked or that the "Coding data incorrect ".
Maybe iv done something wrong during flashing?
WINKFP showed no error code whatsoever during or after the flashing, but maybe i used the files.

is there any way to ensure that i use the right files for my car?

hope some one can help.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:29 AM
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did you code the unit or did you flash the with new Software?

after flashing with WINKFP you need to code the MRS to your VO with NCSexpert
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:29 AM
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did you code the unit or did you flash the with new Software?

after flashing with WINKFP you need to code the MRS to your VO with NCSexpert
cool, how can i do that?
sorry for silly asking

i know how to code with ncs (coded digital speedometer to the bc)

but can u tell me what i have to look for while coding the mrs? just recode the values that are in that module?

hope to get rid of that error codes

i just flashed it with new software with WINKFP

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Old 09-21-2016, 11:38 AM
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You need to load expert profile in NCS (expertenmodus).
Select the MRS ecu and execute the SG_codieren job.
This is the way to code an ECU according to the VO.
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Old 09-21-2016, 11:57 PM
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You need to load expert profile in NCS (expertenmodus).
Select the MRS ecu and execute the SG_codieren job.
This is the way to code an ECU according to the VO.
yes, but therefor i need the correct values inside of the FSW_PSW.MAN, but what are the correct values :-) that is my question

but thanks for the answer
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:19 AM
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Hi,

The First Error Code "93D6 Zentralsteuergeraet - SG ist nicht verriegelt"
means that the ECU isn't locked.

In Ista you can run trough an Servicefunction to lock the Airbag ECU.

I think thats the Main problem, the other errors i think are followed up Errors. try to lock the MRS Ecu maybe u can do that with Inpa (i didnt try it)
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:40 AM
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Hi,

The First Error Code "93D6 Zentralsteuergeraet - SG ist nicht verriegelt"
means that the ECU isn't locked.

In Ista you can run trough an Servicefunction to lock the Airbag ECU.

I think thats the Main problem, the other errors i think are followed up Errors. try to lock the MRS Ecu maybe u can do that with Inpa (i didnt try it)
ok i will try it :-9 thanks in advance
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:43 AM
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ok i will try it :-9 thanks in advance

Ach du bist ja aus Deutschland, dann können wir ja Deutsch schreiben

geb dann mal ne Rückmeldung
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:47 AM
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Ach du bist ja aus Deutschland, dann können wir ja Deutsch schreiben

geb dann mal ne Rückmeldung
jo alles klar, wird wahrschlich erst morgen knappen, da ich heute kaum zeit habe :-)
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Old 09-22-2016, 03:53 AM
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jo alles klar, wird wahrschlich erst morgen knappen, da ich heute kaum zeit habe :-)
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:06 AM
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yes, but therefor i need the correct values inside of the FSW_PSW.MAN, but what are the correct values :-) that is my question

but thanks for the answer
That's the idea of using expert profile.
It doesn't use/need the FSW_PSW.MAN file.
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:02 AM
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That's the idea of using expert profile.
It doesn't use/need the FSW_PSW.MAN file.
didnt help me to load up the expert profile :-)
still getting my error codes after recoding

recodes the CAS as followes:

Detei-> Profil laden -> Expert mode -> VIN/ZCS/FA ->ZCS/Fa f. ECU -> E89 -> CAS -> BACK -> Process ECU -> ABG -> (SG Codieren) Excute job.

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Old 09-23-2016, 04:05 AM
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Ach du bist ja aus Deutschland, dann können wir ja Deutsch schreiben

geb dann mal ne Rückmeldung
ok die obere Meldung mit sg offen ist jetzt weg, aber die andere bleiben jedoch weiterhin.

ich habe mal was davon gelesen, dass man nach dem flashen die zeit wieder einstellen muss? stimmt das? evlt. kommen die fehler weil zeiten nicht richtig sind.

ich hab ja MRS5 im wagen drin. Zeigt halt auch immer die fehler an, dass ich mich nicht angeschnallt hätte usw. obwohl ich angeschnallt bin.

vor dem flashen hat es aber normal funktioniert, ich denke nicht das das gerät defekt ist.

hast du sonst noch eine idee?
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:18 AM
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ok die obere Meldung mit sg offen ist jetzt weg, aber die andere bleiben jedoch weiterhin.

ich habe mal was davon gelesen, dass man nach dem flashen die zeit wieder einstellen muss? stimmt das? evlt. kommen die fehler weil zeiten nicht richtig sind.

ich hab ja MRS5 im wagen drin. Zeigt halt auch immer die fehler an, dass ich mich nicht angeschnallt hätte usw. obwohl ich angeschnallt bin.

vor dem flashen hat es aber normal funktioniert, ich denke nicht das das gerät defekt ist.

hast du sonst noch eine idee?
Hi Kaho,

ja genau, man nennt das "Systemzeit einstellen" in der theorie macht das ISTA/P

Ich bin Kfz Meister in einem BMW Autohaus und sehe das z.b. immer bei Programmierungen von E65 Modellen, die haben im Ablauf immer "Systemzeit Schreiben". wie das ohne Ista/P funktioniert weiß ich leider noch nicht, da bin ich auch zu sehr Codier noob...

Was für Software möglichkeiten hast du denn?
Ich würde an deiner stelle Ista/P runterladen und damit nochmal überprogrammieren.

Einen defekt vom MRS schließe ich auch aus. Ich konnte einen ähnlichen fehler mit einer Komplett Programmierung und Gesamt Codierung lösen.

Mfg
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:25 AM
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Hi Kaho,

ja genau, man nennt das "Systemzeit einstellen" in der theorie macht das ISTA/P

Ich bin Kfz Meister in einem BMW Autohaus und sehe das z.b. immer bei Programmierungen von E65 Modellen, die haben im Ablauf immer "Systemzeit Schreiben". wie das ohne Ista/P funktioniert weiß ich leider noch nicht, da bin ich auch zu sehr Codier noob...

Was für Software möglichkeiten hast du denn?
Ich würde an deiner stelle Ista/P runterladen und damit nochmal überprogrammieren.

Einen defekt vom MRS schließe ich auch aus. Ich konnte einen ähnlichen fehler mit einer Komplett Programmierung und Gesamt Codierung lösen.

Mfg
hi,

danke für deine antwort,

aktuell benutze ich bzw. habe benutzt:

tool32
ncsexpert
inpa
winkfp

ob das zeiten programmieren mit einem der tools geht weiß ich leider nicht

aber danke schonmal, dann liege ich mit meiner vermutung vllt nicht so weit weg vom schuss.

auf die idee kam ich weil die zeit auch aus dem BC verschwunden war :-)
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Old 09-26-2016, 02:50 PM
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Hi Kaho,

ja genau, man nennt das "Systemzeit einstellen" in der theorie macht das ISTA/P

Ich bin Kfz Meister in einem BMW Autohaus und sehe das z.b. immer bei Programmierungen von E65 Modellen, die haben im Ablauf immer "Systemzeit Schreiben". wie das ohne Ista/P funktioniert weiß ich leider noch nicht, da bin ich auch zu sehr Codier noob...

Was für Software möglichkeiten hast du denn?
Ich würde an deiner stelle Ista/P runterladen und damit nochmal überprogrammieren.

Einen defekt vom MRS schließe ich auch aus. Ich konnte einen ähnlichen fehler mit einer Komplett Programmierung und Gesamt Codierung lösen.

Mfg
hey wüsstest du vielleicht ob es auch mit einem der folgden tools geht:

tool32
ncsexpert
inpa
winkfp

Danke im Voraus
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Old 09-26-2016, 03:06 PM
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i cleared the 93D6 E0 error (mrs not closed) by closing it with tool32.

now i heard that the other problems could have happended cause i didnt have programmed the right system time into the MRS (or sth like that)

i guess so cause the error reads (in english)

Absolutzeit Fehler - Beginn - Monat unplausibel 0-n
Absolutzeit Fehler - Beginn - Wochentag unplausibel 0-n

-> which means: the value within the month and the weekday is not plausibly

i have read in another forum that someone with a bmw 3 model got nearly the same problem as me, the he coded the systemtime and recoded the mrs and then he could delet the error codes.

maybe someone can tell me how to set/code/change the systemtime?

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none can help me? i start to do the system_zeit_starten, but there is no such command for the mrs5 with tool32
anyone got an idea how to start the systemtime for an mrs5?
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Old 10-03-2016, 07:03 AM
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solved,

iam an ****ing idiot.

i programmed the cas via ncsexpert...

all i needed to reprogramm is the ABG, which is responsible for the MRS

anyway thanks for help guys
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Same story for me after Upgrading the car to the E89X-16-11-500 I-Level with Ista-P I had the seabelt + Airbag lamps on the dashboard.
In Inpa loading ''ABG'' was the error : 93B3 E8 meaning passenger's Airbag stage 2, what is this ?
So just after, I loaded NCS in Expert mode then red the ECU ''ABG'' showing the MRS5 module and the error.
At least loaded BMW CodingTool and red the FswPsw.Trc file and effectively while the driver side airbag was activated the passenger one was ''Nicht Activ''
Changed it in Activ and coded the modified FswPsw.Man file before restarting the Ecu,
BAM ! the 2 lamps are now OFF ...
it is probably a bug so sharing the soluce because I saw many sh*t especially on YouT*be ...

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solved,

iam an ****ing idiot.

i programmed the cas via ncsexpert...

all i needed to reprogramm is the ABG, which is responsible for the MRS

anyway thanks for help guys
I have done the same mistake
iam recieving multiple MRS after Coding that Unit:
01 MRS OKAY 10 Error stored
93D6 E0
93BA E8
93BB E8
93C1 E8
93AB E8
93B3 E8
93AC E8
93AD E8
93B0 E8
93B1 E8

I cannot even delete
I only knows how to use INPA & winKFP

Now Please Help me I am in big Tension
what should I do Now
Thank you
I have E60 523i
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I have done the same mistake
iam recieving multiple MRS after Coding that Unit:
01 MRS OKAY 10 Error stored
93D6 E0
93BA E8
93BB E8
93C1 E8
93AB E8
93B3 E8
93AC E8
93AD E8
93B0 E8
93B1 E8

I cannot even delete
I only knows how to use INPA & winKFP

Now Please Help me I am in big Tension
what should I do Now
Thank you
I have E60 523i

do you have NCSExpert on hand? if yes i can guide you to use them as a fix for your problem.

if no, i can give you the download link to the program.


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do you have NCSExpert on hand? if yes i can guide you to use them as a fix for your problem.

if no, i can give you the download link to the program.


Greeting and Peace

Thanks man for your reply grateful and happy to see you as Big help. Yes I have NCSexpert + BMW coding tool+ Tool32 + NCS dummy and also DR GINI and really new with these BMW coding tools. My problem is System time I think, as my knowledge is about this issue uptill now as I decode some codes like ERROR_ECU_SERVICE_ NOT_SUPPORTED with code VIRTS90, VIRTS91 and VIRTS92 in which my SIM/SGM + KLIMA + KOMBI + DCS and CID module are involved and not supporting Coding tools. Please tell me What you think my issue is and how it could be fixed. Really appreciate you help
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solved,

i programmed the cas via ncsexpert...

all i needed to reprogramm is the ABG, which is responsible for the MRS

anyway thanks for help guys

Greeting and Peace
Please could you help me and tell me (How Did you Do that? ) step by step I am new with BMW and BMW coding tools not know much about it.
Really appreciate you
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Greeting and Peace



Thanks man for your reply grateful and happy to see you as Big help. Yes I have NCSexpert + BMW coding tool+ Tool32 + NCS dummy and also DR GINI and really new with these BMW coding tools. My problem is System time I think, as my knowledge is about this issue uptill now as I decode some codes like ERROR_ECU_SERVICE_ NOT_SUPPORTED with code VIRTS90, VIRTS91 and VIRTS92 in which my SIM/SGM + KLIMA + KOMBI + DCS and CID module are involved and not supporting Coding tools. Please tell me What you think my issue is and how it could be fixed. Really appreciate you help

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You can try to code your ABG (Airbag) module with ncsexpert:
Here's the step by step
1. Load expertmode profile
2. Choose F3, it should be ZCS/FA/.. button thingy
3. Choose your chassis
4. Read ECU and choose the ABG Module
5. Change job to SG CODIEREN
6. And execute job

Voila!

I can help you via teamviewer if you need further assistance


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