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Old 05-30-2019, 02:08 PM
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Would having some coding done void this warranty? Simple stuff like folding mirrors and the like.

Does anyone have an actual copy of the TSB that I can bring to the dealer? My DOOR OPEN warnings started going nuts a few days ago!
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Does anyone have an actual copy of the TSB that I can bring to the dealer? My DOOR OPEN warnings started going nuts a few days ago!
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Old 05-30-2019, 02:18 PM
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Go to bmw-rp.com if you need proof that it exists, check your vin and print the screen shot of the available ones.
It should have a code next to it like ELW I saw for nox. You might be able to find the tsb if you search for bmw and the code of that campaign
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Go to bmw-rp.com if you need proof that it exists, check your vin and print the screen shot of the available ones.
It should have a code next to it like ELW I saw for nox. You might be able to find the tsb if you search for bmw and the code of that campaign
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:31 PM
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Would having some coding done void this warranty? Simple stuff like folding mirrors and the like.

Does anyone have an actual copy of the TSB that I can bring to the dealer? My DOOR OPEN warnings started going nuts a few days ago!
Dealers can make up any kind of nonsense to void a warranty. I WOULD NOT VOLUNTEER ANY DETAILS.

Once BMWNA gets whiff of 'coding', you are SOL
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:07 AM
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Finding a way to void warranties, decline insurance claims, and otherwise screw the consumer is how they all make a profit. If you have an issue with anything and need coverage, the wise grasshopper takes it in, says "it broke" and shuts the hell up. When asked, play dumb, you dunno what happened, you were just tooling along minding your own bidness when it quit working. Be like Sergeant Shultz and "know NOTHING."
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Old 06-07-2019, 07:04 PM
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Read this after going to BMW to diagnose why my passenger side headlight failed and they said "its not the frm module". So I paid a mechanic to replace it with one from Ebay, and wallah. Headlight works. I went to www.bmw-rp.com, filled out the info, uploaded invoices and proof of payment some $640 including bmws failed inspection like they told me too. Get a letter saying my cars not covered. So I checked the Service Information Bulletin for year/chasis/engine code and all match. 2011 e90 328i manufactured between 2009 and 26th dec 2011. Mine was 3/3/2011 N52 engine. Its listed....but I get rejected. Did anyone here get reimbursed and what were the details. Gonna try and fight it.
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Old 06-07-2019, 08:43 PM
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If you do the repair after bmw issued the warranty extension, they will not pay for parts or labor unless you had it done at bmw dealer.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:46 AM
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So my footwell module went bad this weekend. Started with passenger side mirror not tilting in reverse... now it is completely unresponsive. My 2010 is at 156,500 miles. I call BMW service center- out of warranty, call BMW NA. Call them- the 10 years was up in February, and it is a little over 156k, so the odds of getting this put through are slim, but I need a formal diagnosis first.

Is it even worth going in and paying to get it diagnosed only to be rejected? I haven't had any service done at the dealership in a couple years- the last time I did they stripped the threads in my oil pan and I had to cut new threads to fix it. Also, I bought from a third party; so my brand loyalty score probably isn't very high. Anyone have work like this paid for by BMW NA?
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:50 AM
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I wouldnt.

I have an SA and master tech who are buds. They would surely tell me if they could get it covered, before me spending a penny. But without that assurance, most dealer service departments will bend you over for a few hour$$ and then claim "yeah, too bad- BMW just screwed you, we tried REALLY hard... $400 in BS diagnostics please"
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Alignment here: The Definitive Alignment Thread

OE is Original Equipment aka 'BMW Original Parts' aka 'What you buy at the BMW dealer with a BMW label'

OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer... EITHER the company that made the OE part or.... A part this is identical to the OE part, but is sold by the OEM under their own label


OEM is not what BMW sells


http://www.bimmerzone.com/category/T...ricks_OEM.html

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-OEvsOEM
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Old 06-01-2020, 11:43 AM
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I wouldnt.

I have an SA and master tech who are buds. They would surely tell me if they could get it covered, before me spending a penny. But without that assurance, most dealer service departments will bend you over for a few hour$$ and then claim "yeah, too bad- BMW just screwed you, we tried REALLY hard... $400 in BS diagnostics please"
That is my fear...

I've seen a few places referenced to buy them, but what is the best way to do this? I likely need to program the new module, but likely can't do it with NCS right?
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Old 06-04-2020, 02:07 PM
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Decided to purchase and do it myself. Don't like my chances getting BMW to honor the 100% cost of replacing this with a 10 year old vehicle and 156,500 miles on it. Even if they covered some of the cost, my guess is it will be well over the $1200 I've seen others comment. With this extended warranty, how many on here have even done this on an e70? I've found instructions, but all the failures I've seen have been covered by warranty.

Questions:

Anyone know the best place to get one? I think I have an FRM 2, but FRM 3's are better and cheaper (from I can find).

Procedure is to flash vin to FRM, then use FA to code with current datens, create a backup, then modify to what I had before it crashed. Sound about right?
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Old 06-04-2020, 11:17 PM
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give your VIN to a parts guy at a dealership and ask for the proper PN for the FRM. might be a useful datum, although Id verify with other inputs
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Alignment here: The Definitive Alignment Thread

OE is Original Equipment aka 'BMW Original Parts' aka 'What you buy at the BMW dealer with a BMW label'

OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer... EITHER the company that made the OE part or.... A part this is identical to the OE part, but is sold by the OEM under their own label


OEM is not what BMW sells


http://www.bimmerzone.com/category/T...ricks_OEM.html

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-OEvsOEM
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Old 06-21-2020, 06:25 PM
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So I go into the dealer to get the final airbag recall done. The next day after it's done, I get a battery drain warning. I measure the voltage and the battery is at 12.2v, I clear all codes and I fully charge it overnight, and the next day again, it's drained. No codes. I'm going over the X5 and notice that the front angel eyes, and rear brake lights will flash on and then off at an interval of about 5 mins. And I can hear a faint hum coming from the engine bay. I'm taking the X5 back to the dealer tomorrow, but wondering if the FRM is fried or if it's something else. Not much to go on because there are no codes.
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:07 PM
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How old is the battery? I'd hate to pay a dealer the $140 'diagnostic fee' to be told $500 for a new battery.

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Alignment here: The Definitive Alignment Thread

OE is Original Equipment aka 'BMW Original Parts' aka 'What you buy at the BMW dealer with a BMW label'

OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer... EITHER the company that made the OE part or.... A part this is identical to the OE part, but is sold by the OEM under their own label


OEM is not what BMW sells


http://www.bimmerzone.com/category/T...ricks_OEM.html

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-OEvsOEM
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Drain is not charge or low charge but causes low charge
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How old is the battery? I'd hate to pay a dealer the $140 'diagnostic fee' to be told $500 for a new battery.

1.5 years old, a Duracell AGM and fully charges up to 12.8v.

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Drain is not charge or low charge but causes low charge
Understood, I just charged it up to make sure it was still charging to full capacity and nothing was wrong with the battery since it's somewhat new. The intermittent blinking is being caused by something, and with the hum, I'm wondering if the car isn't shutting down properly.
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