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Old 08-15-2018, 10:47 AM
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Footwell module (aka FRM) warranty extended to 156k miles

Just saw this which my be valuable info to some. Looks like FRM module warranty has been extended to 156k miles.

If you've paid for the repair out of pocket and can prove it, go to www.bmw-rp.com to fill out the reimbursement form.

SI B01 20 16
Warranties August 2018
Technical Service
FOOTWELL MODULE (FRM): LIMITED WARRANTY EXTENSION INCREASED TO 10 YEARS/156,000 MILES
New information provided by this revision is preceded by this symbol .

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B01 20 16 dated August 2016
What's New:

The footwell module (FRM) extended limited warranty has been increased to 10 years/156,000 miles.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:08 PM
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Question: when the frn fails one loses side blinkers, headlights, window control.
In this case the car is unsafe to drive....

So does this extended warranty include coverage of a tow to their facility? It should but I'm not sure..?
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Old 08-20-2018, 05:37 PM
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Old 08-21-2018, 05:21 AM
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Question: when the frn fails one loses side blinkers, headlights, window control.
In this case the car is unsafe to drive....

So does this extended warranty include coverage of a tow to their facility? It should but I'm not sure..?
doubtful...
when this happened to me:
headlights should default to on
tail lights default to on
brake lights still worked
if you can't get the window down, then i suppose you can not use hand signals, but no one expects someone in a BMW to use their turn signals anyways.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:30 PM
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I recently found that my 2013 X5 35i with 63k miles has this code as well. I was wondering what it was and will now follow this thread to gain more information. I'm under the mileage and years for the warranty, but dread taking my vehicle to the crooked stealership as unexplained things happen upon leaving. One example is dripping pools of oil all over the garage floor the next morning after servicing, because the mechanic decides to loosen some bolts to get me to come back, true story.
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:19 PM
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I recently found that my 2013 X5 35i with 63k miles has this code as well. I was wondering what it was and will now follow this thread to gain more information. I'm under the mileage and years for the warranty, but dread taking my vehicle to the crooked stealership as unexplained things happen upon leaving. One example is dripping pools of oil all over the garage floor the next morning after servicing, because the mechanic decides to loosen some bolts to get me to come back, true story.
What codes? None mentioned on this thread...

Dealers suck. Everyone who's been here for a while knows that. Shouldn't be but it's reality. They just get you with the glitzy waiting room, the new cars all around, the coffee, and there used to be one guy here who would boast about pigging out on inhaling what seemed like 4,000 worth of BMW of SF donut calories when taking his car in for service, all the while belittling folks with 18 inch wheels as having 'poverty donuts' compared to his 20's. What happened to him anyway?
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Here is the code that came up with a reference to FRM:

009CC1 - FRM: stepping-motor controller (SMC), left, signalling fault
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Old 08-21-2018, 10:30 PM
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Here is the code that came up with a reference to FRM:

009CC1 - FRM: stepping-motor controller (SMC), left, signalling fault
That is a failure your FRM is responsible for reporting.
The covered failure of the FRM is of electronic catastrophic nature (within the module) resulting in a failure mode where have no control of headlights or windows.
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Old 08-22-2018, 10:04 AM
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That is a failure your FRM is responsible for reporting.
The covered failure of the FRM is of electronic catastrophic nature (within the module) resulting in a failure mode where have no control of headlights or windows.
Interesting, because whenever the automatic setting on the headlights is used a warning pops up saying the adaptive headlight are not working. But when the vehicle is switched off (which resets the warning indication) and you use the normal headlight setting all the way turned to the right the warning does not appear. Is this related to FRM warranty issue?
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All headlight processing circuitry is in the FRM (referring to BMW IPO protocol/topology).

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...ow-adjustment/
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that's great news. ty
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FRM Module extended warranty

Hi, can anyone shre me the file BMW has for the additional two years extended warranty for the FRM module? I have the exact case right now in which they said my warranty just expired last August. They did a scan on my vehicle and fried the FRM now they want me to pay $1300 to have it fix.
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OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer... EITHER the company that made the OE part or.... A part this is identical to the OE part, but is sold by the OEM under their own label


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Hi, can anyone shre me the file BMW has for the additional two years extended warranty for the FRM module? I have the exact case right now in which they said my warranty just expired last August. They did a scan on my vehicle and fried the FRM now they want me to pay $1300 to have it fix.
is it possible you have a 2008 and the 10 year warranty really did expire?

WHen you pressed them "there is a 10 year warranty on the FRM, could you please verify with BMW', what did they say?

When you called BMWNA, what did they say?

Sometimes the US and CA have differnt warranties- so what we see in the US may not help. But importantly you do not need 'the paper' or 'the file' to press your issue. Just need to find an SA who isnt a liar, idiot or thief.
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OEM is not what BMW sells


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I have a 2011 BMW and they said it has only 8 years extended warranty and expired last August, so I was hoping my BMW qualifies with that additional 2 years extended warranty. I called BMW NA and they said My BMW does not have that warranty anymore and they cannot do anythinh about this issue, so I am left with no choice on paying the damaged FRM which in fact they damaged not my fault.....
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Is there a way I can see what are the warranties I still have for my specific vehicle? Any website?
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I have a 2011 BMW and they said it has only 8 years extended warranty and expired last August,
08/2011 + 00/0008 = 08/20(11+8) = 08/2019

If indeed August is the month of your in-service date.
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They said according to record August 2010 was my in service date. Still confused because my X5 is a 2011 model. But I was not the first owner so maybe it was manufactured August 2010??
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They said according to record August 2010 was my in service date. Still confused because my X5 is a 2011 model. But I was not the first owner so maybe it was manufactured August 2010??
I believe that warranty limitations run from in-service date, NOT date of manufacture.

Otherwise they could save a heap of warranty costs with long shipping delays.
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Probably August 2010 was the date the car was originally sold. I will check the car proof
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Yeah I just checked and my in service date was August 10 2010. But I saw some discussions that there was an additional 2 years extension for the FRM module, that is what I wanted to verify and if somebody in the group knows about this.
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Be clear that you want a warranty extension document from BMW Canada. BMW USA warranty extension is the topic of this thread's original post #1.
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Yes that is actually the reason why im here is to get info if that warranty extension is also applicable in Canada.....
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Yes that is actually the reason why im here is to get info if that warranty extension is also applicable in Canada.....
BMW USA does not usually commit BMW Canada as they are separate enterprises. I do not believe that the BMW USA warranty extension applies to Canada.
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