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Old 05-28-2020, 07:02 PM
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2013 E70 With only 40k miles good deal?

Hey Guys,

I am looking to purchase an E70 under 80k miles. I found one that is in immaculate condition with only 40k miles and the dealer wants 17k. Do you think this is a good deal, or do I have some wiggle room to get them down on the price? The service history is perfect.

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I am looking to purchase an E70 under 80k miles. I found one that is in immaculate condition with only 40k miles and the dealer wants 17k. Do you think this is a good deal, or do I have some wiggle room to get them down on the price? The service history is perfect.



Appreciate your time, and any help or advice you can offer.


Engine? Service history? Can we see it?


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Old 05-28-2020, 07:33 PM
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My bad forgot to post the link.

https://www.naplesautocollection.com...889e9b72d29e9c

I live in Ohio so I will need to have it shipped.
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Carfax is worthless. It misses a lot. I would request a full service history before even considering. Then look at known issues. Itís low mileage but still 7 years old. Old gaskets are old gaskets.


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Also get the last 7 of the vin so you can look up options here. https://www.mdecoder.com


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Carfax is worthless. It misses a lot. I would request a full service history before even considering. Then look at known issues. Itís low mileage but still 7 years old. Old gaskets are old gaskets.


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Will do. I expect to replace the valve cover, and oil filter housing gasket first thing. Also will be getting an aluminum charge pipe. I plan on doing all of the maintenance myself and using FCP Euro. I also have checked out the options on https://www.mdecoder.com looks like it has the standard options except for Hi-Fi professional audio. Nothing really special there.

I will request that service history. I found another one with only 24k miles but it's silver. I really dig the red.

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Old 05-29-2020, 04:53 AM
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I think the price is right given that one with 60k more miles will cost $11/12k.

Is looks like you know the drill on maintenance. Good luck!


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Old 05-29-2020, 05:16 AM
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missing comfort seats, no adaptive drive or self levelling suspension, ugly non sports package airbag/steering wheel, and no HUD. Apart from that, looks good. I'm not being an asshole, the point I am trying to make is figure out what packages are important to you before you jump on a car just because its low mileage.
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rare to find one with low mileage

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Will do. I expect to replace the valve cover, and oil filter housing gasket first thing. Also will be getting an aluminum charge pipe. I plan on doing all of the maintenance myself and using FCP Euro. I also have checked out the options on https://www.mdecoder.com looks like it has the standard options except for Hi-Fi professional audio. Nothing really special there.

I will request that service history. I found another one with only 24k miles but it's silver. I really dig the red.

Appreciate the help and advice.
that dealer price usually goes up by 3k when its all said and done so you're looking at 20k... for a 7 year old truck?. Mileage isn't fraud proof, have that number verified.

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Those seats are a deal breaker for me, even with that low mileage. It is a nice combination though and if it checks YOUR boxes get a PPI done.
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missing comfort seats, no adaptive drive or self levelling suspension, ugly non sports package airbag/steering wheel, and no HUD. Apart from that, looks good. I'm not being an asshole, the point I am trying to make is figure out what packages are important to you before you jump on a car just because its low mileage.
My 08 is just like this. I purposely did not want the air suspension. Looked for that in particular.
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OK just saw it on the web site. BEAUTIFUL!!! Check the maintenance records and if they are good, Jump On It!!!
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I'd fly down, GET A PPI DONE, and drive home if it checks out. or perhaps arrange a PPI in advance. not at a BMW dealer, but a qualified BMW Indy.

I know you think you can fix everything. Some things you cant.

Looks nice tho

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My bad forgot to post the link.

https://www.naplesautocollection.com...889e9b72d29e9c

I live in Ohio so I will need to have it shipped.
Don't want to rain on your parade but try to get something within driveable distance.
Lots of nice one for sale everywhere. Give me your postcode.

Are you planning to buy sight unseen ?? Big mistake.

You have to test drive it for atleast 15 miles at high speed.
Also drive back home will catch any problems.

For me that red color and seats suck. But to each his own

Within 200 miles of Toledo
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...dEntity=c22853

My choice

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=267711131

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Old 05-29-2020, 05:15 PM
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FWIW....

South Florida is the chop shop/title wash capital of the USA. I would be **incredibly** cautious of any car sold by a fly-by-night dealer from there. Even a 'high end European' dealer. Even with a nice website. Even with glossy pictures. Even with a showroom.

I am not saying THIS car is a problem. But you should act as if it was totaled in an accident...the insurance adjuster was paid $500 to 'forget' to file the right papers...and it was sold to a body shop that slapped it back together..then passed it to a brother in law to market it as a 'low mile, snowbird never drove over 55' deal. If you act like that, and put in place the controls to protect yourself, you will be much better off.

If you want to proceed and would like the name of a qualified shop to inspect the car, let us know.
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Don't want to rain on your parade but try to get something within driveable distance.
Lots of nice one for sale everywhere. Give me your postcode.

Are you planning to buy sight unseen ?? Big mistake.

You have to test drive it for atleast 15 miles at high speed.
Also drive back home will catch any problems.

For me that red color and seats suck. But to each his own

Within 200 miles of Toledo
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...dEntity=c22853

My choice

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=267711131

Gary

I would stay away from both of those cars. Pennsylvania and Ohio are Rust Belt states...

It makes me cringe to remember the kind of stuff that salt did to the Land Cruiser I had. Never again will I buy a car from rust belt.


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Old 05-29-2020, 06:30 PM
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i think its a good deal, depends on you though. I bought a 2012 e70 50i with 57k miles for 17k and im happy with that, some ppl would buy a newer model with 80k plus miles for more money and think its a good deal just cause its a newer model. i beg to differ on the latter, there's still a lot of life on that vehicle if its truly 40k miles and in immaculate condition.
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Wow lots of great information here. Really appreciate the advice guys. I will request the service records first, and go from there. If they give me problems with that, I will take it as a sign to move on. If the service records check out I will likely get a PPI for the next steps from a qualified Indy. Thanks so much for all your help and advice guys!

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Old 05-29-2020, 10:42 PM
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I dont think they will have service records.

Its hard enough to find an original owner that saves all that BMW paperwork...but a used car dealer isnt gonna have squat.

Frankly using this as a 'go-no go' criteria will result in basically you cutting out 99% of cars(or more ).

GL.. it isnt easy, thats for sure
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Wow lots of great information here. Really appreciate the advice guys. I will request the service records first, and go from there. If they give me problems with that, I will take it as a sign to move on. If the service records check out I will likely get a PPI for the next steps from a qualified Indy. Thanks so much for all your help and advice guys!

Thanks Again,
God Bless!!

FYI - using the VIN of the car and Leveraging a friendly BMW service advisor, you can access any service history within the BMW dealer network.

Most of the time they will not want to give you a print out, but sometimes theyíre friendly enough that they will do it after deleting the prior owners contact information. Either way, it can at least tell you if it has any work done at a dealer (this is not a guarantee of good quality work, just Proof that it received service) and what the mileage wife at the time.


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I would stay away from both of those cars. Pennsylvania and Ohio are Rust Belt states...

It makes me cringe to remember the kind of stuff that salt did to the Land Cruiser I had. Never again will I buy a car from rust belt.


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I would stay away from Florida cars. Thousands of cars were flooded in last 2 years of Hurricanes

I would risk a rust belt car to a flooded SALVAGE TITLE cars.

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/a...ays/692733328/

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-n...220912975.html

https://www.mcall.com/business/consu...918-story.html

There are suckers born everyday

Then they come on this forums and bash BMW for producing HORRIBLE CARS


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I would stay away from Florida cars. Thousands of cars were flooded in last 2 years of Hurricanes

I would risk a rust belt car to a flooded SALVAGE TITLE cars.

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/a...ays/692733328/

https://www.miamiherald.com/latest-n...220912975.html

There are suckers born everyday

Then they come on this forums and bash BMW for producing HORRIBLE CARS


To each his own the saying goes... I understand your concern with a possible flood car that has been cleaned up a bit and put up for sale.

From my perspective, not all cars being sold in FL are flood vehicles, but all cars driven year round in Rust Belt states are prone to rust issues, and I am not concerned with body rust, but with bolts stuck in place that break when being pulled and turn a 1 hour job into an eternal ordeal.

In any case, a PPI is warranted for sure in any 7 year old car worth north of $15k


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To each his own the saying goes... I understand your concern with a possible flood car that has been cleaned up a bit and put up for sale.

From my perspective, not all cars being sold in FL are flood vehicles, but all cars driven year round in Rust Belt states are prone to rust issues, and I am not concerned with body rust, but with bolts stuck in place that break when being pulled and turn a 1 hour job into an eternal ordeal.

In any case, a PPI is warranted for sure in any 7 year old car worth north of $15k


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The biggest redflag is the 40k miles on a 7 year old car.

Either a genuine snowbird car or flooded car sitting in some warehouse for last 3 years after Hurricane Florence and Erma.

Rustbelt is rusts only under surface, flooding rots the car from inside out

I would never take a risk with any Florida Cars. Especially BMW where you spend an arm and leg for most problems. Hyundai and Kia , OK , Luxury cars , NO.

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In regards to flooded cars or mystery, these are both reasons to have a PPI completed and see the vehicle in person. Iíd rather spend a little more for that security and inspection then gamble with fighting paperwork.


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The biggest redflag is the 40k miles on a 7 year old car.
I think it all depends. Carfax/Autocheck/etc would most likely show a history containing that flood damage since an original owner would NOT want to cover the costs to bring back a flood car on their own as to not report to insurance. My opinion.

I know of a few cars that are driven less than 2500 miles a year and one of them is my father in law with his 2009 Corolla. It happens. Albeit rarely, but it does.
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