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Old 06-30-2008, 11:08 AM
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So I'm coming up on the end of my break-in period at 900 miles. Hopefully by this upcoming weekend, I'll be ready to change my oil and truly experience the car. I was wondering what is the best place to buy oil for the car whether it is online/in-store? Thanks.
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I just go to WallyMart and buy Mobil One 5W30 + mail order a filter.

Some people will tell you it is not a LL1 approved BMW oil but it's fine. I use in everything I own: '08 BMW, '06 Yamaha motorcycle, '08 Honda '07 John Deer lawn tractor, Sears push mower, pressure washer and even a tiller! In the lawn equipment it makes them much easier to start when cold

LL1 'may' have validity if you push to 20K between changes. I do half the 'free' BMW interval DIY. Also don't worry about mixing with any Castrol that may be left - all modern oils are designed to mix fine.
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Wal*Mart and buy Mobil 1 0W-40 oil.

Dealer for a filter.

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I just go to WallyMart and buy Mobil One 5W30 + mail order a filter.

Some people will tell you it is not a LL1 approved BMW oil but it's fine. I use in everything I own: '08 BMW, '06 Yamaha motorcycle, '08 Honda '07 John Deer lawn tractor, Sears push mower, pressure washer and even a tiller! In the lawn equipment it makes them much easier to start when cold

LL1 'may' have validity if you push to 20K between changes. I do half the 'free' BMW interval DIY. Also don't worry about mixing with any Castrol that may be left - all modern oils are designed to mix fine.
I'm glad I am not the only geek running synthetic in lawn equipment...

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I'm glad I am not the only geek running synthetic in lawn equipment...

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Hey it could be worse, I have a friend who runs Amsoil in his lawn tractor. I am pretty sure he does the 'change the filter thing' between oil changes too


>>Wal*Mart and buy Mobil 1 0W-40 oil.
0-40W has a good reputation and is BMW LL-1 approved. It is a bit thicker and 'might' loose you a fraction of a mpg - our Honda specifies 5W-20 which I believe it to save fuel. If you track/ auto-x use 0W-40; I'll be doing that if I cannot sell the coupe and decide to track it.
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Hey it could be worse, I have a friend who runs Amsoil in his lawn tractor. I am pretty sure he does the 'change the filter thing' between oil changes too
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Wow Tischer sells the complete package in a box. Thats kinda nice. They use BMWs oil which is 5w/30. And the oem filter is top notch. For 50 bux sounds like a deal (free ship).
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So I'm coming up on the end of my break-in period at 900 miles. Hopefully by this upcoming weekend, I'll be ready to change my oil and truly experience the car. I was wondering what is the best place to buy oil for the car whether it is online/in-store? Thanks.
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I just go to WallyMart and buy Mobil One 5W30 + mail order a filter.

Some people will tell you it is not a LL1 approved BMW oil but it's fine. I use in everything I own: '08 BMW, '06 Yamaha motorcycle, '08 Honda '07 John Deer lawn tractor, Sears push mower, pressure washer and even a tiller! In the lawn equipment it makes them much easier to start when cold

LL1 'may' have validity if you push to 20K between changes. I do half the 'free' BMW interval DIY. Also don't worry about mixing with any Castrol that may be left - all modern oils are designed to mix fine.
Worth noting is that if there is a mechanical issue and BMW suspects the oil is the culprit they will not honor the warranty as it is not an approved oil...

I am working on obtaining the official word on this.

The best bet is get the oil from the dealer.
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Worth noting is that if there is a mechanical issue and BMW suspects the oil is the culprit they will not honor the warranty as it is not an approved oil...

I am working on obtaining the official word on this.
Pretty unlikely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

Once with a VW my wife owned the dealer said it had an issue because we were using non VW recommend fuel (seriously!). With a little pressure they still fixed the issue which was a carbon fouled throttle body.
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Walmart or Costco has Mobil. +1 on getting the filter at dealer. No problems.
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Pretty unlikely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

Once with a VW my wife owned the dealer said it had an issue because we were using non VW recommend fuel (seriously!). With a little pressure they still fixed the issue which was a carbon fouled throttle body.
People use that act as a defense all the time and IT IS NOT valid for most things, and quite pathetic. Good luck getting a lawyer, what that states is that you do not need to buy parts that are made by the specific vehicle manufacturer, preventing a monopoly on parts and repairs and that properly designed parts can be used to replace manufacturer parts and a warranty can not be void based on that. The replacement part must meet or exceed the OEM specifications.

BMW could simply argue that they specify specific oils due to the lubrication system and components used within the motor and any other oil would cause premature wear and subsequent damage. You then would be responsible to prove it was not your use of oil that caused the issue. The specifics of the non-recommended oil is due to NOT meeting the OEM requirements. Also, worth noting is that BMW does not manufacturer the oil, so it available outside of them.

If you were to put regular non-synthetic oil in the engine and it exploded how would the Act help you? It would not.

Everything is dealer dependent but engine damage is usually investigated by a field engineer.

People it is a difference of like $2 when buying at Wallymart vs. the dealer... huge difference. Did you see the new symbol for W-Mart.... enough said.
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Pretty unlikely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

Once with a VW my wife owned the dealer said it had an issue because we were using non VW recommend fuel (seriously!). With a little pressure they still fixed the issue which was a carbon fouled throttle body.
VW and Audi can and do deny warranty claims if non VW spec oil is in the car.
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If you put anything but BMW full synthetic 10W40 purchased from a dealer in your car your engine will explode. That part number is 17 51 0 017 866 and it costs $6/liter.



j/k Wal Mart FTW. Seriously, get your filter from the dealer though.
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:48 PM
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I bought my oil from BMW and same with filter. The BMW 'branded' oil is Castrol anyhow, but it was actually cheaper than the Castrol equivalent! So i just got that!
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VW and Audi can and do deny warranty claims if non VW spec oil is in the car.
+1. Don't hang your hat on Magnussen-Moss. The only way you get any joy using M-M as a stick is if you shell out for litigation costs all the way through appeal. For that kind of effort, plan on north of 250 large ones.
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If you put anything but BMW full synthetic 10W40 purchased from a dealer in your car your engine will explode. That part number is 17 51 0 017 866 and it costs $6/liter.
I recently purchased oil from the dealer for my E93 and it was 5w30. Are you selling 10w40 because of the higher operating temps in your neck of the woods?
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So the price of gas increases, and the JUGS of oil at Walmart are on sale? What gives? I picked up a jug 5w-30 (5 qts?) for $22.97. I remember paying almost $30 about 6 months ago...
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So the price of gas increases, and the JUGS of oil at Walmart are on sale? What gives? I picked up a jug 5w-30 (5 qts?) for $22.97. I remember paying almost $30 about 6 months ago...
Walmart puts tremendous price pressure on their suppliers. This, combined with the limited approvals on the straight Mobil 1 5W-30, make me wonder if it is still the oil that it used to be. And then Exxon’s introduction of the line of Mobil 1 Extended Performance oils make me wonder even more, since the brand seems to be being split into two different lines, one for the Walmarts of the world and one for gear heads. All in all, if Mobil 1 5W-30 is so good why have Mobil 1 5W-30 EP, not to mention Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP?

IMO all you can trust is the approvals. Mobil 1 0W-40 has them (BMW, VW, MB, Porsche). So does Mobil 1 5W-30 ESP.

Color me paranoid.
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I got to Autozone and buy the German Castrol 0W-30, that is BMW LL-01 approved.
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Bought my oil for the post break-in oil change online (Crown BMW). By the time you factor in the cost of shipping it makes more sense to buy the oil locally.
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