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Old 04-30-2002, 11:22 AM
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Unhappy The end of the road for the beloved Z3...

From: National Automotive


As a reminder, a modification block will be placed on all Z3's beginning on May 4 to ensure a proper run-out of all materials for the factory.

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Old 04-30-2002, 11:42 AM
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What does this mean? that you can't modify Z3 orders after May 4th so that the factory can use all of the components and materails it has in stock until the end of the model run? WHy would this notice come from National Automotive and not BMW? WHat is national automotive? sorry for all the questions--the quote is a big cryptic and I just wanted to understand it.

It is sad --although I never personally cared for the Z3.
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What does this mean? that you can't modify Z3 orders after May 4th so that the factory can use all of the components and materails it has in stock until the end of the model run? WHy would this notice come from National Automotive and not BMW? WHat is national automotive? sorry for all the questions--the quote is a big cryptic and I just wanted to understand it.

It is sad --although I never personally cared for the Z3.

Rob,

It's all from BMWNA. "Build out" is fully under way...
You are correct ~ (so that the factory can use all of the components and materails it has in stock until the end of the model run). This is THE END...

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Does that mean that there are going to be a lot of weird spec Z3s hitting the dealers?....

Maybe dark green exterior with cherry red leather and red wood trim
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Old 04-30-2002, 03:14 PM
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Does that mean that there are going to be a lot of weird spec Z3s hitting the dealers?....

Maybe dark green exterior with cherry red leather and red wood trim
Or even worse, Dakar Yellow with Walnut interior. Who the hell would buy that?

Heheh.
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Thank you for the update Jon. Hard to just stand idly by and wait for them to pull the plug.



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Question Maybe that explains my red top

So that explains how Rusnak had an M roadster with a red top!

I've talked to people that have been around BMWs for 3 or 4 decades now and they have NEVER seen a BMW convertible with a red top. They must have taken the only one in inventory and stuck it on my car.

Anyway, it helps make it a little unique and because of the top color I got a killer deal.
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The red top on an M roadster has been a standard option since the M roadster was introduced in 1998. It isn't a common color, but not uncommon. I have never seen red on a non M roadster.
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Question how many red tops could there be?

Bruce - Have you seen some red tops? Where and on what cars? I know it's always been available on them, but is there any way to find out just how many?

Jon - Do you know of any way to find out from Spartanburg what color combos of M roadsters have been manufactured?
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Re: how many red tops could there be?

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Jon - Do you know of any way to find out from Spartanburg what color combos of M roadsters have been manufactured?
No. There is no easy way at least. BMW NA will not formally release the color data. Perhaps someone on this board has a factory contact who can get the data incognito.
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Question How about Jon Shafer or the guy with the Phoenix Yellow M Coupe

Maybe Jon Shafer knows how to get some of that kind of info.

Does anybody know who the owner of the Phoenix Yellow M Coupe at Bimmerfest is?

He told me about a link from Bimmer.org that had some of that kind of info, but I forgot what he said.
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I have seen some (not many as it is makes a very- how do you say? BOLD- statement).

Alan (started .org) had a Silver/Red/Red M roadster. Very nice car, very big statement. It takes a special personality to have that color top. Mike G in Florida had a Black/Red/Red M roadster that was equally (maybe more so) loud.

I can guarantee the number isn't large.

As far as figuring out how many there have been, you just can't get that info. Believe me I tried. I believe I had (since sold) the only 98 M roadster with Blue exterior and Gray interior. I know of a 99 with that combo, but had a black top. I tried getting the info from Craig Westbrook and he couldn't do it (he was the M manager at SC for a few years- only M employee there BTW). I also knew the Z3 roadster manager for BMW NA and he couldn't get that info (but I could have gotten any test color I wanted if I wanted another Z :-) I did find somebody at HC a few years ago that said he might be able to get the info, but I never followed up as I sold the car soon after. I know he is still there, but really don't want to get his email flooded.

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thanks for response

Thanks Bruce -

Yeah, it would take some set of 'nads to order that black/red/red.

I know a guy here with an '01 with blue/blue/gray (that he ordered) and there was a guy at the fest with a '00 silver/blue/blue (that he got from dealer stock like me).

I've been trying to get in touch with Thomas Helm (M Roadster manager) at Spartanburg but have not been successful. I have a phone number in Spartanburg and the lady on the line knew him, so I'll have to try again.

I'll have to put a post in this topic and in the General topic asking about the owner of the Phoenix Yellow M Coupe / Gray interior.
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I have seen some (not many as it is makes a very- how do you say? BOLD- statement).
It sure is nice to see my old buddy Bruce over here...
How's it going, 'Track Boy'?
How's Staci, how's the new place, and what the heck are you up to???.
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I've been trying to get in touch with Thomas Helm (M Roadster manager) at Spartanburg but have not been successful. I have a phone number in Spartanburg and the lady on the line knew him, so I'll have to try again.
Honestly that won't get you anywhere. That must be the new guy that took over for Craig (heard he was transferred "home" to Germany- he actually in an American that speaks fluent German BTW). You need to contact the plant manager.

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It sure is nice to see my old buddy Bruce over here...
How's it going, 'Track Boy'?
How's Staci, how's the new place, and what the heck are you up to???.
I have been registered awhile just haven't posted here much. When JonM and Ron come over... :-)

Things are going OK. I am interviewing for a new job tomorrow (still medical related, but may take advantage of the MBA more- sure wish I could find an entry level MBA-ish type job in Dallas :-(

Staci is not so good, she cracked some ribs the day we were supposed to go on the annual Texas Hill Country drive. :-( She is till not feeling well.

Also- the Z3 may have a new older brother next week.....that's all I am going to say. :-)

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Hey Bruce...good to see you on here.
Looks like alot of the old timers from Roadfly migrated over here...I still watch both boards

???Cracked ribs???...sounds very very painful
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good advice

thanks Bruce -

I haven't given up yet, but maybe with that phone number I can get a line on the plant manager. With the end of this platform coming maybe they'll have some final stats compiled somewhere that someone may not mind sharing.


Jon and rest of Bimmerfest - I remember the exitement the Z3 brought about when it first came out. I had one of the '96s with that little 1.9L (red/tan/wood trim/black top) and while not very powerful, it was a blast to drive. I'm sure the next version will be even better (they always are), but I think this first roadster from BMW in quite some time will one day be a classic. I've seen some 'spy' photos of one that could be the next version and it definitely was taking on some of the S2000 characteristics. Especially in the tailights and contour of the side and rear of the car.
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