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Old 10-02-2019, 09:14 AM
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Blown X1 Engine - Need Urgent Advice

My wife's 2014 X1's engine blew on Sunday. On Friday the car was at the BMW dealer for an Oil Change and a free multi-point inspection. Nothing adverse was reported then. Less than 200 miles later the engine blew without any warning lights or prior warning. My 56 year old wife drives very gingerly so abuse would not be a factor. Pictures of the hole and the debris on the pan are attached.

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Care was purchased from a BMW dealer used on 9/30/2014 with 8000 miles on it. Had been a car used by the dealership rather than being with a private owner. Had approximately 55000 miles when engine blew. The window warranty sticker said CPO Elite 5/75K ISD 3/3/2014. Note that 5 years from purchase was 1 day after engine blew. Not sure if a warranty can start running before a car is purchased or not

1. Looking for some advice on whether this car should be repaired or not. In great shape other than the engine.

2. Wondering if I have any recourse to get BMW to do the repairs given the warranty situation and the recent passed inspection of the engine.

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Old 10-02-2019, 09:22 AM
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What does your signed documentation say about the warranty? Do you have proof of the date this engine failure occurred? Have you reported this failure to the dealership you just had it serviced at?


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Old 10-02-2019, 09:39 AM
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Warranty Info is pretty sketchy, window tag is attached here. Have AAA tow receipts and documentation from the shop it was towed to so date of failure is rock solid. Have not told dealer yet, while trying to build a case to make them cover it.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:50 AM
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The signed paperwork will mean more than what I see on that window sticker. I think the in-service date is what matters with a warranty claim. Your case might be with an error during the service you had completed that may have lead to the engine failure? Was this a loss of oil/oil pressure that led to the failure?


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Old 10-02-2019, 09:59 AM
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Window sticker is the main details. Attaching 2 sections of the contract that point to it somewhat generically.

Before failure car made banging noises and oil sprayed out before quickly failing. No lights or warnings were shown.

Service at dealer was routine oil change and the multi-point inspection. Generally these inspections are a ruse to tell you what expensive items you need service on. This dealerships reviews are pretty horrible but it would be impossible to prove they did something to cause the failure.
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:09 AM
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The warranty on the window sticker should be in the signed paperwork somewhere. Written specifically. If not it could have been implied but left out. Have you used the warranty during your ownership to at least have proof it was in fact real? I still think you have a good case for a service related root cause but I donít have all the details. There are a few members on this forum that Iím pretty sure will chime in shortly with some good info.


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What caused the failure ? That's a big element to whether you have any recourse with BMW, the dealership, or otherwise.
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:42 PM
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If this was caused by failure of the valve chain guides, you may get BMW to cover the repair, even if it is not under warranty.
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Old 10-04-2019, 06:48 AM
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Dealer says warranty is expired since it began 6 months before we owned the car. Cost of repair is more than value of car. Seems a waste to total a pristine X1 with a blown engine.
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The full failure needs to be diagnosed. Then see if it is presentable as caused by service. Then go the BMWNA route to get help if dealer doesnít step up.


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Old 10-04-2019, 06:57 AM
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No clue what caused the failure. No prior warning or maintenance lights. Not sure what it would cost to get the problem diagnosed? Also wondering if the computer module would give any clues.
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Old 10-04-2019, 07:12 AM
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No clue what caused the failure. No prior warning or maintenance lights. Not sure what it would cost to get the problem diagnosed? Also wondering if the computer module would give any clues.


Read this.


https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...1149993?page=1


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No clue what caused the failure. No prior warning or maintenance lights. Not sure what it would cost to get the problem diagnosed? Also wondering if the computer module would give any clues.
It might cost some $ to get diagnosed. But we need to know what failed. Also, if you don't know what failed, how do you know the "engine is blown" ?
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Old 10-06-2019, 01:59 PM
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Dealer says warranty is expired since it began 6 months before we owned the car. Cost of repair is more than value of car. Seems a waste to total a pristine X1 with a blown engine.
Hopefully people here can help. Can you post the invoice of the "cost of repair more than value of car"?

Edit: also if you open the oil cap and look in you should see the timing chain and guides with a flashlight looking right into the oil filler. What do you see in there and can you post a picture of that? If the chain is still there intact you are in a better position.


Lets not get overly optimistic but if you/she hit some highway debris or a rock smashed the oil pan open and lost oil pressure, the engine would shut down and you would have a hole in the pan. The debris does look like shredded chain guides but have you handled them yourself and are they all white plastic fragments covered in oil?

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