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Old 07-08-2018, 01:26 PM
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I'm starting the search to replace my F10 sedan. Contenders are the new Audi A6, Genesis G80, E series MB and of course a G30 BMW. I had a 335d for a while but traded it before the warranty expired due to concerns about costly maintenance. I'm considering the 540d but would like to hear from some owners who have racked up at least 10K miles. How do you like the car and have you had any issues? Thanks.
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:25 AM
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Sorry...I only have 500 miles on mine.However,it's everything I hoped for so far.Looking at your "resume" it appears that you have some,but not a lot of,experience with diesels whereas I'm on my fourth.So far this "d" is far superior to all of my other three,including the Mercedes.

Granted I'm speaking from limited experience.Hopefully folks with more than 500 miles on the clock will weigh in.

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Ask this question in the diesel subforum; there's a few there. Basically: everyone loves them.
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Didn't the first US deliveries of the 540d start just a few weeks ago? IIRC correctly the oldest one in the US can't be more than 2 months old, so getting 10k mile feedback at this stage might take some time...

FWIW, I've had my 2012 X5d for over 5 years. It now has 87k miles and I still love the thing. It has been completely trouble free. To be honest I half expected tons of issues by now given that >90% of what we read about here are problems, but so far it has been and continues to be a fantastic car. I know that trouble will eventually come, but I'm glad I held on to it and am planning on another 5 years at this stage of the game. It's been tough not to pull the trigger on a new 5 series (beautiful car) and the new X5 also looks promising particularly if it comes with a diesel engine.

I probably shouldn't go there, but based on your post it seems you sold the 335d due to concerns over costs for out of warranty repairs then followed it with depreciation on a 13 Audi A4, a 13 Audi A6, then a 2016 528i? Holly depreciation hits Batman! Hopefully you were just ready for another car and the fact that the warranty was turning into a pumpkin was the extra nudge.

Hope you pull the trigger on the 540d, it seems like a really great car.
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I've owned a 2014 328D xdrive, 2015 535D M sport and currently own an 2017 X5 35D Xdrive and a 2018 540D xdrive M sport. I've put quite a few miles on the first two. The X5 has only 10,000 and the 540D 5,000. All were and are great vehicles with the 540 being the best yet and it looks like the last of the diesels coming from BMW. Might be my last BMW sadly. Absolutely recommend the 540D. Best of the breed IMHO. It gets an easy 40 mpg hwy and in the 30's around town. Lots of power for passing and a strong running highway car. Mine has every option offered less 20" wheels and that B&O sound. Night vision is not of much use, at least not so far. The Semi auto comes in handy on long trips. Hope you find yourself one soon. Not but a very few left.

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I've owned a 2014 328D xdrive, 2015 535D M sport and currently own an 2017 X5 35D Xdrive and a 2018 540D xdrive M sport. I've put quite a few miles on the first two. The X5 has only 10,000 and the 540D 5,000. All were and are great vehicles with the 540 being the best yet and it looks like the last of the diesels coming from BMW. Might be my last BMW sadly. Absolutely recommend the 540D. Best of the breed IMHO. It gets an easy 40 mpg hwy and in the 30's around town. Lots of power for passing and a strong running highway car. Mine has every option offered less 20" wheels and that B&O sound. Night vision is not of much use, at least not so far. The Semi auto comes in handy on long trips. Hope you find yourself one soon. Not but a very few left.
I'm not in a position to get a 540d but your 540d experience matches my 2014 535dx experience. I absolutely love the car. The weapons grade torque is addictive and the better fuel economy compared to the gassers comes as a bonus. My 535dx is only at 125k miles and won't be for sale anytime soon. I ordered mine on July 1, 2013, a little over 24 hours after the 535d and 328d models first appeared on BMW USA's website. I loaded the car up because I decided to either go high roller or go home. I took delivery on August 14, 2013. I own the car outright from day one before first driving it off the dealer's lot.

Since whatever cars I own absolutely have to be diesel powered, BMW not returning with diesel models means I won't be returning to BMW as a customer in the future. I have never owned a gasoline BMW... and won't. My diesel BMWs are long term keepers (10+ years) and won't be for sale anytime soon. Best cars I have ever owned.


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Old 06-04-2019, 02:47 PM
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Is the 540d available right now in the US? I thought no diesels at all any more?
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Is the 540d available right now in the US? I thought no diesels at all any more?
I think you probably will have to wait until someone throws a perfectly good one away by trading it in as soon as the factory warranty and free maintenance ends or by serially leasing. They will take the big depreciation hit and then repeat the cycle through buying or leasing another car. You probably will have to buy CPO if you can find one.

A 540d is a car you buy and keep forever. IIRC, only 74 of them were sold in the USA so it is somewhat of a rare car. I expect many 540d owners who leased will buy at end of lease.


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Is the 540d available right now in the US? I thought no diesels at all any more?
I recall no more d models after the 540d and 2018 X5 35d. BMW not returning with diesel models means I won't be returning to BMW as a customer in the future. Whatever I own and drive absolutely HAS to be DIESEL powered.


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I think you probably will have to wait until someone throws a perfectly good one away by trading it in as soon as the factory warranty and free maintenance ends or by serially leasing. They will take the big depreciation hit and then repeat the cycle through buying or leasing another car. You probably will have to buy CPO if you can find one.

A 540d is a car you buy and keep forever. IIRC, only 74 of them were sold in the USA so it is somewhat of a rare car. I expect many 540d owners who leased will buy at end of lease.


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If this number is true (and I don't know where you sourced it), the rarity of this car may offset the depreciation a few years from now.
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If this number is true (and I don't know where you sourced it), the rarity of this car may offset the depreciation a few years from now.
It was just a general statement about habitually trading or serially leasing compared to buying and keeping forever (10+ years). I have BTDT before but can't do that now with my driving around 1k miles per week. I have to buy and keep long term (10+ years).

I agree that the rarity of the car will keep the resale value up but resale value only matters when you go to sell. People who have them should hold right onto them and keep forever instead of habitually trading or serially leasing. Owners who leased will probably want to buy at lease end to keep the car. A 540d is a car you keep forever.

The 74 number was mentioned in one of the 540d threads on this site.


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I think you probably will have to wait until someone throws a perfectly good one away by trading it in as soon as the factory warranty and free maintenance ends or by serially leasing. They will take the big depreciation hit and then repeat the cycle through buying or leasing another car. You probably will have to buy CPO if you can find one.

A 540d is a car you buy and keep forever. IIRC, only 74 of them were sold in the USA so it is somewhat of a rare car. I expect many 540d owners who leased will buy at end of lease.


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Great..so this will keep resale value high. Hope to catch one when time comes!
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:18 AM
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I saw exactly ONE on the BMW CPO site as of yesterday. I'll bet if you are patient you'll find one though. Best of luck!
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:41 AM
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I had a 2015 535D M sport I sold to a neighbor after I ordered my 540D. That too was an awesome car. Fast and smooth running. Only complaint was tire spin when taking off on wet roads due to all that great torque.The xdrive on the 540 fixed that. If BMW hadn't mentioned discontinuing diesels I would have kept mine. With the two I now have I plan to keep for a very long long time. Just can't imagine any manufacturer improving on perfection. Not buying into extended warranties either. Those actuaries are much smarter than me. I am not the typical BMW owner however. I baby my cars and stay way ahead of required maintenance so hopefully I'll beat the actuaries estimates. A risk I'm willing to take. It's great to have 540D and other BMW diesel nuts like me to chat with.
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Old 07-06-2019, 07:31 AM
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I am currently on my third BMW diesel. I first had a 2011 335d and fell in love with the torque of the diesel. Bought my wife a 2014 328d Sportwagon - a great car too, 4 cylinders but still a blast to drive. I traded in the 335d for a 2016 Audi A6 after testdriving the 535d and reading a lot about a redesign of the 5 series being needed. The Audi was a great car too but really missed all that torque. I as excited to see the redesign of the 5 series announced with a new diesel engine to boot! I planned to drive the Audi a couple more years and order the 540d when I was ready. . I decided to act in the summerof 2018 when BMW dropped the 540d from the US market. I was too late to order but was able to find a loaded one at BMW of Springfield MA - btw my best BMW buying experience - great dealership. I was lucky to find one - my local dealerships were of no help at all when I asked about getting one. So far 9 months and 8500 miles in hands down the best car I've ever owned. Amazing torque and fuel economy in the mid 40s on the highway and never below 30 overall. More comfortable than anything I've owned and tech features exponentially better than either of the other cars. Plan on driving this car for many years. Sorry they quit selling them here.
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Seems you are making better use of your D. I'm up to a tad more than 4K. I've noticed a marked performance improvement very lately. My mileage is improving too however not to the numbers you are seeing. With time. I fed her with Exxon Mobil's Diesel Efficient when I noticed the difference in performance. Coincidence? Anyway we love it and I totally agree this is the best of the breed. We own an X5 D xdrive and couldn't be happier with it either. I managed to get 40 mpg on a flat FL side road. Amazing for such a heavy tall vehicle.
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I had a 2015 535D M sport I sold to a neighbor after I ordered my 540D. That too was an awesome car. Fast and smooth running. Only complaint was tire spin when taking off on wet roads due to all that great torque.The xdrive on the 540 fixed that. If BMW hadn't mentioned discontinuing diesels I would have kept mine. With the two I now have I plan to keep for a very long long time. Just can't imagine any manufacturer improving on perfection. Not buying into extended warranties either. Those actuaries are much smarter than me. I am not the typical BMW owner however. I baby my cars and stay way ahead of required maintenance so hopefully I'll beat the actuaries estimates. A risk I'm willing to take. It's great to have 540D and other BMW diesel nuts like me to chat with.
I feel the same about my RWD 535d. Don't need the AWD or its complications so the 540d was a hard sell for me, especially since I still have relatively low miles on the 535d. Babying previous direct injection diesels gave me high relatively worry free miles from each, and it helps cover the new car depreciation curve!
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I saw exactly ONE on the BMW CPO site as of yesterday. I'll bet if you are patient you'll find one though. Best of luck!
I read somewhere (here,perhaps?) that only about 75 540d units were sent to the US.
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I read somewhere (here,perhaps?) that only about 75 540d units were sent to the US.
Where did you read that? Does not seem plausible to me given how many I saw on dealer lots a year or so ago and even a couple of months ago East Bay BMW still had 3 new ones (now gone) and I think I saw Concord BMW had one new one left a week or two ago. Unless all the d's came to SF Bay area dealers, there is no possible way 75 is the number.

Stalking for the just right one on CPO. They were not really dealing on the new ones and the equipment / color combo was blah...
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I really really hate bmw's engine designation in the usa, they lie so bad. 540d in usa is 261 hp, and not 320 like Europe gets. Just like the F 35d being single turbo, basically a 30d in europe.
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Same case for the F10 535d - really it's a 530d in Europe. I am guessing that the nomenclature was changed to better match the numbers in the gasser 6-cylinder cars (i.e. 535i and 535d, 540i and 540d, 740i and 740d). Of course, the gasoline engine nomenclature is pretty silly as well.
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But for example the 540i is 335hp while the 40d is 261. 35i used to be 300hp.pfft

No 535i, but the 530i (2 liter!) is 248hp, closer to the 40d hp.

I can't even find a 335i spec anymore. They're just reselling the engines one step up here for the same or higher price.

Id guess the 540d is single turbo like euro 30d and our previous F 35d's.
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But for example the 540i is 335hp while the 40d is 261. 35i used to be 300hp.pfft

No 535i, but the 530i (2 liter!) is 248hp, closer to the 40d hp.

I can't even find a 335i spec anymore. They're just reselling the engines one step up here for the same or higher price.

Id guess the 540d is single turbo like euro 30d and our previous F 35d's.
Europeans probably know that a diesel with less horsepower has much more torque than the "same displacement" gasser. Rarely does anyone drive like they do to make full benefit of horsepower, but torque has advantages in normal and usual driving.

Perhaps BMW feels that in Americans' eyes, the 535d is close to equivalent to the 535i and definitely not inferior.
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