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Yes ICE pulls similar 0-60 until the last "sip" of gasoline/diesel, while electric cars will enter limp mode before specific threshold, say, 10% of SoC.
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In a heart beat
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The depletion of the batteries energy will occur much, much sooner than the depletion of the gasoline in a gasoline engine.
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Iv'e been looking for charging places. I just don't see many. I saw one and it was in a parking lot. Clearly identified as such. Sign said reserved spot for electric vehicle. It did not matter what the sign said. The spot was up front and there was no access to it because of the gasoline powered vehicles all parked there. With the limited range and lack of charge stations I see it as a local to the store or out to dinner ride only at this time.
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You have to also take into account how much simpler an electric motor is vs ICE. Electric cars were just as popular early last century as early ICE cars. The issue was non existence of electric grid. Then Henry Ford came out with model T and an assembly line while Rockefeller provided fuel. |
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Lets say there are charging stations everywhere. How long is a typical charge?
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Hence my statement:
"Part of that ways to go is a supporting infrastructure." Last edited by 181562; 07-28-2017 at 05:03 PM. |
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I think Super Chargers are supposed to charge in 30 minutes.
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Where's the data on that?
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http://insideevs.com/expected-tesla-...l-power-video/ |
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Just find a mcdonalds/starbucks and plug the car in as if you were plugging in your laptop.
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In contrast Tesla surcharging is up to 120kW per car, with 480V. So a quick charge for extra 170 miles in 30 minutes on a Tesla supercharger will require 1500 minutes(1+ days!) at mcdonalds. |
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It's probably a great "around town" car. Because of range anxiety, I would probably stay away from trips where the round trip was going to be any more than 100-120 miles.
It cannot be one's only car, unless one is planning to rent a car for long distance drives. |
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Model 3 starts delivery, is that really the 3-series killer?
The Super Chargers are only supposed to be used occasionally, like when you have an occasional long distance drive. Generally, as your routine, you should charge overnight at home or at work during the day.
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Real life.
Sent from my SM-G935T using Bimmerfest mobile app |
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MT is all praise for the car's handling.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla...-drive-review/ Quote:
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![]() Maybe there will be a demo car at the factory store this weekend, if so festers will be informed! ![]() |
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Too long. But....[lotsa smoke] |
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An inconvenient truth. I like the Model 3....um....but battery tech inhibits. That may, prob will, change by 2020 with the intro of autonomous driving. 'Cause by then somethin's just gotta give and, with autonomy, nobody needs neck snappin' accel. Nobody. Ain't comfy. |
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The early impressions from Motor Trend and the like are very positive. Sounds like the car has a great driving feel -- handles great, the steering has some feel, and of course they're quick.
No one's going to buy one of those instead of an M3, but I bet plenty of people will get one of these instead of a 330i or an A4. And at the entry price point, high-end Accord/Camry buyers could reach for one as well. Gotta give Tesla kudos for making it happen. They're not perfect but it's amazing what they've accomplished. Just like Apple...there were smartphones before the iPhone, but they all kinda sucked. Tesla figured out how to make electric cars interesting and desirable.
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It goes head to head with a Toyota and a Chevy. It's a cheap car for people who were concerned about gas prices which were very high two years ago. Not sure who it is for now. If it's anything, it's a Prius killer.
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