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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-24-2013, 08:33 AM
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stranded.... engine overheated

Driving around with the family yesterday in the e61... first got the yellow engine to hot warning and within 10 secs it changed to the red overheat/stop driving message. Pulled over immediately and the coolant was boiling. Called up BMW roadside assistance, told them I was stranded with my wife and 2 year old and wanted to be towed about 25 miles to my local dealer... they said no problem. 90 minutes later tow truck shows up with no way to transport three or a toddler. Also tow truck advised he would only tow back to his lot (in middle of no where) and then tow vehicle to BMW sometime Monday. I had to call up a friend to come pick up the wife and kid meanwhile I went with car and took an 80$ taxi ride to get home. Not impressed, at the least with the BMW roadside people. After this experience, maybe time to move on to new vehicle.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:15 AM
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Unfortunately the electric water pumps and thermostats on n52 and n54 engined cars almost always fail with 60k-100k miles. Its basically an unofficial wear item.

I am planning on replacing my 535's pro-actively around 65k miles just to avoid being stranded.

Hows the new style 2012 Jeep? I was reading the reviews online, but would like to get an owner's perspective.
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Old 03-24-2013, 10:23 AM
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Just replaced water pump and thermostat on our E61 wagon @ 85,000 miles. Right on schedule it seems.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:07 PM
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The thing is my BMW is CPO ... the model is basically BMW will pay for it as long as it actually fails on you. So either I pay out of pocket for the preventative maintenance, not cheap, or risk getting stranded and getting it covered, major PIA. Right now my car is stuck in limbo between the tow lot and the dealer... I just hope it doesnt show up with a screwed up alignment and a bunch of new dings. BTW I am at 93K miles.

As for the question about my WK2 Jeep, I would have to say I am happy with it after 13K miles. I was hoping for better mpg then I am getting w/ the pentastar V6 (19mpg) but i absolutely love the interior (custom upgraded katzkin leather), great fit and finish, great style (IMO) and good technology. The selectrac 4WD is very capable, handles my sandy/beach boat ramp with no problem launching, recovering or towing my 2500lb bowrider. The one nice thing is I only get about .5 mpg less towing versus normal driving. The 2014 model year is introducing a number of impressive changes, such as 8 spd tranny, that should improve on the complaints that I do have with my 2012- clunky 5spd tranny, small touch screen, dated climate control. My biggest overall complaint is the fit and finish of the door panels to the body. I purchase my vehicle brand new and all 4 door leak air and create wind noise on the highway. This makes it a very noisy highway vehicle... my 535xit is a pleasure in comparison, you feel so isolated in the cabin. I've had the dealer readjust the doors multiple times but they still are not perfect.

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Old 03-25-2013, 10:05 AM
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LOL, I feel you, I love Jeep GC's (I have had 4 of them). But they tend to lack in the quality department. The last one I had (2006 SRT 8), had great performance, but a measly 9 MPG!!!! That's worse than the M5!!!! Also, the weekend after I got it new I washed it and discovered all the exterior trim was already loose, after less than 100 miles!!! I sold it within a year because gas alone was costing me $750/mo and got my previous 530i, never looked back.

As for the water pump, it's not that expensive to replace as preventative maintenance. Also, ecstuning.com has replacement ones that have upgraded metal impellers (instead of the plastic OEM ones) for ~$230, a reasonable bit of insurance in my opinion.
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:30 AM
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I had the same problem, except that nothing at all was boiling or heating or abnormal. The computer insisted I had an overheat and completely killed my throttle in the middle of an intersection. Fortunately I had the presence of mind to stop and restart the engine - everything fine. Dealer said there was absolutely nothing wrong and gave the standard excuse - your battery is probably low. 23,000 miles at the time.
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LOL, I feel you, I love Jeep GC's (I have had 4 of them). But they tend to lack in the quality department. The last one I had (2006 SRT 8), had great performance, but a measly 9 MPG!!!! That's worse than the M5!!!! Also, the weekend after I got it new I washed it and discovered all the exterior trim was already loose, after less than 100 miles!!! I sold it within a year because gas alone was costing me $750/mo and got my previous 530i, never looked back.

As for the water pump, it's not that expensive to replace as preventative maintenance. Also, ecstuning.com has replacement ones that have upgraded metal impellers (instead of the plastic OEM ones) for ~$230, a reasonable bit of insurance in my opinion.

What brand of water pump are you referring to on ecstuning.com?

I just hit 100k miles so I think I might want to be pro active on it soon and replace it.
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Vehicle finally showed up around 11AM on Monday and BMW dealer was now willing to process a loaner car. They were hoping to get the vehicle started and finished today, he had a water pump and tstat in stock, but I never heard back from them... I always tend to think that means it was either a) not started or b) a bigger problem then they suspected. Anyway, advising it would get done today and then not even calling with an update is another surprise. Finally, I am not impressed at all with this 2012 328xi, just can't seem to get comfortable...the fit and finish is good but I think my e36 was more comfortable. The i-drive screen looks like it was tacked on as an after thought. It drives pretty nice but but it's rather isolated and boring.

Back when I had 3 vehicles I would definitely try to tackle this maintenance myself. Now, with only 2 cars and less time, it makes it more difficult. Plus these cars have gotten so complicated now I need to steal hundreds of dollars of software to figure out whats really going on. There was a point in time I was attracted to all the communications technology and FI power but man the cost of ownership has been high, much higher then any other of the BMW's I've owned. In the past year, easily I have put $5K into this car in service or warranty work. And even more in bodywork because my wife parks in stupid places and this car makes a large target.

I'm thinking about flipping the Jeep for a Nissan Xterra Pro-4x. It would save me a nice chunk of change payment wise, versus the Jeep, and seems just as capable. If I am going to settle for a vehicle that has horrible wind noise on the highway I might as well have a big roof rack up there as benefit.
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What brand of water pump are you referring to on ecstuning.com?

I just hit 100k miles so I think I might want to be pro active on it soon and replace it.
I think the metal impeller WP is the belt-driven one, on M52/M54 engine the OE one uses plastic, overtime it cracks and separated from the shaft. The improve version uses metal impeller welded to the shaft, so only failure would be leaks from the bearing. Again this works well on older belt-driven pump.

The newer electric pump, well no one seems to knows for sure knows what the failure is. The electronic controller, bearings, or impeller broken inside ????
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What brand of water pump are you referring to on ecstuning.com?

I just hit 100k miles so I think I might want to be pro active on it soon and replace it.
I'm talking about the Pierburg water pump. Thanks!
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Got the e61 back today. they replaced the water pump and some aluminum screws but they didn't replace the thermostat like they claimed they would. Another disappointment... It does still drive real nice tho
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Had the same problem with water pump and called bmw roadside assistance, told me 120 minute wait. So I said, "so two hours??!!" Her response, "no sir, about 120 minutes". Seriously lol!. I have AAA as well, they were there in less than 10 minutes. Moral of the story, get AAA.

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