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Old 08-26-2019, 11:00 AM
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Is there a rear center jack point or can you use the Diff. ?

Just wondering as I would like to put the rear up on jack stands but once you just the jack pad to lift the corner, you obviously can't put the jack stand there. In my old Mercedes (smaller car) I would just use a block of wood and jack up the Diff. but I am wondering what people recommend for these cars.

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There is a center rear jack point that is not the diff. I did this when I needed to change transmission and Transfer-case fluids.
I drove the front end up on ramps, and then lifted the rear and used jack stands on the jack points right in front of the rear tires.
I can't exactly recall the point, but there is one at least for a 35i.
I will try to hunt down a picture if I have one.
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:02 PM
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There is a center rear jack point that is not the diff. I did this when I needed to change transmission and Transfer-case fluids.
I drove the front end up on ramps, and then lifted the rear and used jack stands on the jack points right in front of the rear tires.
I can't exactly recall the point, but there is one at least for a 35i.
I will try to hunt down a picture if I have one.
Image attached. Is this the point with the yellow arrow? On my car it looks too rusted to use without breaking it. I know that aftermarket tow hitches get attached to this point as well.
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Here's a pic of my X1:
You can see there is a little cut out just in the rear of the diff that is a good spot to put a jack.






Hard to tell if you can get a jack to lift the strut that sits in the "rear" to your diff?
But that V brace that comes down looks like part of the frame.
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Old 08-28-2019, 08:48 PM
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interesting the 35i is missing the steel (rusted) v shape at the back and the galvanized v "stiffener" they call it along the bottom. I dont think these serve any purpose other than mounting the trailer hitch but it is strange that the larger engine vehicle would be missing them.
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Old 08-29-2019, 12:35 PM
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My 2014 has the brace and v stiffener... I had to loosen it when installing my downpipe!
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As others have mentioned, I wouldn't jack up the vehicle using the diff. I HAVE done it before on various vehicles in "emergency situations" (had to do a repair on the side of the road once, a good thousand miles from home with none of my tools), but I would never suggest it as a normal practice.
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I ended up backing it up onto ramps. The ramps I have are too steep for the front of the car but the rear worked just fine. As it turns out this is the proper way for what I was doing anyways.

Just as a side note: I adjusted the rear alignment from -2.1 degrees both sides to -1.0 degrees both sides and then adjusted the rear toe back to its original position, very sightly toe in. My rear tires were wearing much faster on the inside edges and the tires on now are being replaced with some nice blizzaks when the snow hits.

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Just wondering as I would like to put the rear up on jack stands but once you just the jack pad to lift the corner, you obviously can't put the jack stand there. In my old Mercedes (smaller car) I would just use a block of wood and jack up the Diff. but I am wondering what people recommend for these cars.

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Based on info from the BMW TIS...the e84 X1 has TWO locations for raising the vehicle from the rear that DON'T include the two jack points along the side skirts just in front of the rear wheels.

Here's info from the BMW TIS on where to locate a jack to lift/raise the e84 X1: https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...-guide/HYa4PjP

BMW says that lifting from the rear DIFF is possible...but does warn not to lift from the DIFF'S COVER. Similar to past BMWs...I think that the warning not to lift from the rear diff's COVER gets conflated/confused as them saying don't lift from the DIFF. Take note of the difference between lifting from the rear diff itself vs placing the jack where it will put lifting forces on the rear diff's cover.
Warning!
The vehicle may be raised with a trolley jack only at the following mounting point!
  • 1 FRONT jacking point on reinforcement strut (RWD)
  • 1 FRONT jacking point on front axle support (AWD) (see location pic at link given above)
  • 2 SIDE car jacking points
  • 3 REAR axle final drive
Note: It is not permitted to raise the vehicle at the rear differential cover!
  • 4 REAR Bolting point for rear axle trailing links


Caution!
All-wheel drive vehicles may only be raised with the reinforcement plate fitted on the front axle!
Raising directly on the front axle support without reinforcement plate is not permissible!
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Here's a pic of my X1:
You can see there is a little cut out just in the rear of the diff that is a good spot to put a jack.






Hard to tell if you can get a jack to lift the strut that sits in the "rear" to your diff?
But that V brace that comes down looks like part of the frame.
Do you have the pano-sunroof? I am wondering if the stiffener is to accommodate the reduced stiffness from the roof. I noticed some hitch manufacturers are selling a hitch for the model with the pano-sunroof only and it also connects to this point.
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Do you have the pano-sunroof? I am wondering if the stiffener is to accommodate the reduced stiffness from the roof. I noticed some hitch manufacturers are selling a hitch for the model with the pano-sunroof only and it also connects to this point.
Good observation!
My X1 does not have a sunroof.
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