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Old 01-19-2009, 07:04 PM
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What are the best e39 snow tires?

I have a 530i sport with summer tires and I need a good all weather tire. This is my first experience with a BMW in the snow so I'm looking for a bit of advice from seasoned owners.

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Snows are a must...I have all seasons right now and she is a SLED. Cost me 20$ to get her towed out of an unplowed lot this morning.
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I have a 530i sport with summer tires and I need a good all weather tire. This is my first experience with a BMW in the snow so I'm looking for a bit of advice from seasoned owners.

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Snows are a definite must in our part of the country. Notice I said SNOWS and not All Season -- there is a huge diff especially in a RWD car.

I'm currently running 18" Dunlop Winter Sport 3D and like them a lot..I've also owned Blizzak LM22's and they were a great snow tire too.

Be careful and do your homework or you'll be sorry. Blizzak for instance has LM22's, LM25's and WS50's.

The WS50 (while providing great traction) was a very soft tire and (imho) absolutely ruined the driving experience of the BMW. I'd never buy them again.

I believe the LM25 is similar to the LM22 -- the next generation.

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I went with the "R" model for my 530i sport in Boston. If I lived somewhere with more snow I would have went with the studded "5" version (you can get the 5 unstudded as well). They are pricey but well worth it if you do a lot of winter driving.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:55 PM
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I went with the "R" model for my 530i sport in Boston. If I lived somewhere with more snow I would have went with the studded "5" version (you can get the 5 unstudded as well). They are pricey but well worth it if you do a lot of winter driving.
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I went with the "R" model for my 530i sport in Boston. If I lived somewhere with more snow I would have went with the studded "5" version (you can get the 5 unstudded as well). They are pricey but well worth it if you do a lot of winter driving.
How much did those run you? If you dont mind....
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I have the Blizzak LM-25's. 225/55-16. Great for light snow and bad winter weather. I've never been stuck or had any issues. The car still drives well with them too.
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I've have to give a shout out to the new Michelin X-Ice Xi2 studless snow/ice tires....if that's the type of winter tire that fits anyone's needs. They have been way more than what I could ask for. This is my first winter with them...my previous studless snow/ice tires were Michelin Arctic Alpins.

We had a severe ice storm the week before Christmas where there was a layer of ice about 1"+ thick. Then came the snow and the sub-zero freezing weather...and these tires have been excellent, I haven't got stuck once, or slid of the road, or fishtailed out of control...braking and turning have been excellent.

The warm weather handling is way better as well. When the temps were up in the mid 50s...the Xi2 tires weren't squirmy like the Arctic Alpins...and they aren't as noisy either. Just last night, I had them up between 90MPH-100MPH as I had to accelerate to get out on the Interstate...and I didn't even know I was going that fast until I looked down. The tires are just that well rounded for various conditions.

If anyone is looking for a studless snow/ice tire...I highly recommend them.





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Old 01-20-2009, 02:07 PM
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I went with the "R" model for my 530i sport in Boston. If I lived somewhere with more snow I would have went with the studded "5" version (you can get the 5 unstudded as well). They are pricey but well worth it if you do a lot of winter driving.

Absolutely, there isn't a better snow tire anywhere.
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Real snow tires are for snow. It doesn't matter how good they are or are not in warmer weather. If you want snow tires get snows and do not compromise. Put your summer tires back on when the snows stop.

All season tires do nothing good. They are a compromise in every way. A jack of all seasons and master of none. Not good in snow and not a good summer tire.

I grew up in Michigan and lived in Alaska for a few years so I have some experience.
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16" Dunlop Winter Sport 3D. More than adequate in the snow. Quieter than my summer tires. Nice handling in Dry/Wet weather.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:33 PM
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Summer tires + snow = FTW

All season tires suck.
Studs are the way to go in winter/ice conditions, but different cities have different laws.
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We are using Michelin Alpins we bought second hand. No problems but a little noisy on dry pavement. Great tires are cheaper than one repair. The X-Ones are the newer versions I believe.
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The Blizzaks are quieter than the Dunlop SP2000E that came with the car and about the same niose level as the Goodyear F1 GSD3's. Just FYI.
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Blizzaks are highly recommended.

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Old 01-21-2009, 11:37 AM
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We are using Michelin Alpins we bought second hand. No problems but a little noisy on dry pavement. Great tires are cheaper than one repair. The X-Ones are the newer versions I believe.

X-Ice. And they're good too. I have also heard good things about Blizzaks, Hakkapelittas, Goodyear Ultragrips, among others. I think with any of the major name brand snows, especially newer models, you'll have a hard time going wrong.

Here's a great rant about snow tires:

http://www.rickmercer.com/blog/index...ire-of-its-Own

"I'm one of those Canadians that likes winter. Sure I think it lasts too long, but still I like to see it coming. So when we had the first snowfall here in Toronto I went for a walk.

And with the snowflakes gently falling against the street lights I wandered around the city for about half and hour and I enjoyed the sights and sounds of 13 fender benders in nine languages.

Yes, it was a winter wonderland interrupted only when some guy in an Audi locked up his brakes and slid head first into a telephone pole about three feet from my legs. Then he jumps out and says, "Don't move, I might need a witness."

And I'm thinking what's he need a witness for? What's he gonna do, say it wasn't his fault? Did the pole jump out in front of his car? And then when I asked him later, did he have snow tires on, he looked at me like I was an idiot and said, "I don't need snow tires, I've got all-season radials."

This is what I want to know: how can a guy be smart enough to have a job that lets him drive a 59 thousand dollar car and yet be stupid enough to say he doesn't need snow tires when he's standing next to his Audi that's wrapped around a pole?

This is Canada. There's no such thing as all-season tires just like there's no such thing as all-season footwear. There is in southern California. They're called flip-flops. You wear them in all seasons up here you'd end up with no feet.

The first sign of flurries in Toronto, the entire place becomes a bumper car track. No exaggeration, the provincial police said there were 900 fender benders in Toronto in the first five centimetres of snow. This is a crisis Ontario.

There's no shame in being a have not province. Being a can't drive province... that's just embarrassing. Driving in the snow is like sex. If you want to avoid accidents abstinence is the best policy; but if you're gonna take a spin, use protection."
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Last I knew, Blizzaks had a dual compound. A "sticky" compound on the outer 1/2 tread thickness and a higher wearing compound on the inner 1/2 of the tread thickness. Once 1/2 worn, the performance in snow goes to hell. Has this changed recently? I know my buddies 3 year old Blizzaks that are about 1/2 worn behaved this way. He just replaced them because snow traction sucked bad.

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When the Blizzak WS60 is 50-percent worn, a tread depth indicator molded into the tread design lets the driver know that only 10 percent of the remaining tread is the Tube Multicell compound.

NOTE: Snow platform indicators (the equivalent of snow wear bars) are molded into the Blizzak LM-22's tread grooves to inform the driver when ice and snow traction will be reduced as the tire's tread wear reaches the point where the remaining tread depth becomes less effective in deep snow.
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You know E=MC2 stuff...it appears that the molecules of snow ice and salt are wisked away by the downward pressure of the tire on the driving surface. As the tire propels the vehicle the distinctly unique tread pattern of the BLIZZAK takes over and thrusts the unwanted and highly cumbersome molecules out of the way so the remaining tread can grab the undersurface, and if that undersurface is snow it creats a digging proportiionate to the weight of the vehicle, the forward momentum, slippage/spin and the thrust being generated by the drive train. Thereby making the blizzak one of the most sought after tires of all time. For those who do not realize the traction of the Blizzak I suggest you consult a local university for a good lesson in physics, or ask someone that has tried them. Since I had physics many moons ago I go with experience.

I know there are other good snow tires out there but the BLIZZAKS are amongst the best
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[QUOTE=GSXRYDER;3858820]

You know E=MC2 stuff...it appears that the molecules of snow ice and salt are wisked away by the downward pressure of the tire on the driving surface. As the tire propels the vehicle the distinctly unique tread pattern of the BLIZZAK takes over and thrusts the unwanted and highly cumbersome molecules out of the way so the remaining tread can grab the undersurface, and if that undersurface is snow it creats a digging proportiionate to the weight of the vehicle, the forward momentum, slippage/spin and the thrust being generated by the drive train. Thereby making the blizzak one of the most sought after tires of all time. For those who do not realize the traction of the Blizzak I suggest you consult a local university for a good lesson in physics, or ask someone that has tried them. Since I had physics many moons ago I go with experience.[QUOTE]



Would you please identify where the above statements came from?
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RULE!

You know E=MC2 stuff...it appears that the molecules of snow ice and salt are wisked away by the downward pressure of the tire on the driving surface. As the tire propels the vehicle the distinctly unique tread pattern of the BLIZZAK takes over and thrusts the unwanted and highly cumbersome molecules out of the way so the remaining tread can grab the undersurface, and if that undersurface is snow it creats a digging proportiionate to the weight of the vehicle, the forward momentum, slippage/spin and the thrust being generated by the drive train. Thereby making the blizzak one of the most sought after tires of all time. For those who do not realize the traction of the Blizzak I suggest you consult a local university for a good lesson in physics, or ask someone that has tried them. Since I had physics many moons ago I go with experience.

I know there are other good snow tires out there but the BLIZZAKS are amongst the best
If Blizzaks are still using the same basic technology as when they came out, you are a bit off on this. This is the way it was explained to me a few years ago.

As if enough weight presses down on ice, the pressure causes the ice to form an ultra-thin sheet of water on the ice surface. This creates the loss of traction -- the water acts as a lubricant.

The soft multicell traction compound (think of it as a sponge) actually sucks up a small amount of the surface water created by the weight of the vehicle. This water then refreezes, allowing the tire to actually grip the ice. The tread is also agressively patterned and siped to work in snow.

The side effect of this, unfortunately, is that once the pavement warms up and dries out, the multicell compound wears out EXTREMELY quickly.
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Good post Philboski.
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