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Old 07-02-2020, 04:38 PM
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I took out passenger side axel and tried putting new in couldn't get last 3/4 to go in now iv tried everything including a slide hammer and can't get the new one out it's 07 x3

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Old 07-02-2020, 05:55 PM
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Use a chisel/wedge between the fixed end of the CV and the pan.


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Old 07-02-2020, 07:01 PM
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I have tried wedging and no luck it's really jammed I'm there the slide hammer with wedge adapter no luck I'm afraid I'm doing damage in there is there a bearing inside
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Old 07-03-2020, 03:51 AM
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If you used an aftermarket it's likely the circlip is too big and is hung up.

Keep bashing with wood so you don't break Case.

No aftermarket in this stuff.
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Old 07-03-2020, 05:34 AM
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Yes it's aftermarket I always use bmw parts but needed it quick so got from a parts store in working on the ground no lift just a jack ugh I'll keep hitting in it
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Try a bigger wedge.

My fear isnít the circlip, itís bad tolerances between the splines and carrier.

Iíve used Carquest loaded axles in the past on several different vehicles (including the E83) without issue.

Iím not sure where youíve attached the slide hammer, but if it was to the outer axle stub, your CV joints are likely toast anyway.

Rather than use brute force, use physics: try a large wedge (like for splitting logs or busting concrete) positioned perfectly vertical with the tip between the thick axle part and the pan, with a hydraulic jack under it. Steady the wedge with a thickly gloves hand while applying steady but slow jack with the other, and that axle should pop right out. Youíll want to get he front of the car up and resting on solid cribbing (I never trust jack stands). I think part of your problem is lack of room to work or swing your mini sledge (you ARE using a mini sledge and not a light framing hammer, right???)


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Old 07-03-2020, 07:58 AM
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Yeah no room and have mini sledge have chiselers too buy no room put jack under it
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:36 AM
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When I replaced my tc with a rebuilt one, the splines on the output drives haft were just a little too big. With some filing, I was able to slide it in. If you used hammering and its stuck, you def damaged something. If the damage is only on the splines and not the bearing inside the dif, it can be saved. I wouldnt try to pry out. The axle has to come out in the same direction it went in. I'd keep going at it with the slide hammer.
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Old 07-04-2020, 04:28 AM
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See above. If you are slide hammering the outer axle, cut it off with a torch as it's now junk anyway

Aftermarket axles don't save time, money, or aggravation, they just reward bad parts makers
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Old 07-04-2020, 11:56 PM
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Well I have tried everything except dynamite to get this axel out I guess it's stuck inside the front diff so question I have if I took out the driver side axel would I be able the drive it out with.a piece of pipe I'm grabbing for a solution
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Old 07-05-2020, 08:08 AM
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That doesn't work. Can you post some pics from different angles?
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Old 07-05-2020, 08:45 AM
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Only about half inch stuck in diff if the hole goes all way thru it thought might be able drive it out from driver side but don't know if hole goes all way thru is my question
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Old 07-05-2020, 02:12 PM
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99% sure, the hole doesn't go all the way through. I've never needed to replace my cv axles but looking at dif pics on the net, looks like it doesnt.
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Old 07-05-2020, 03:25 PM
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Ok thanks I bought couple different size crowbars gonna try after sunset hot one here today
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When I had my diff off, I *think* you could get a drift through from the port side but I certainly wouldnít recommend it, I donít remember for sure even though I resealed it. I donít understand why it canít be wedged out if you were able to get it in; if you used a hammer to drive the axle in, thereís no doubt that your CVs are shot.

Youíre going to have to get the thing as high up in the air as you can so you can actually work on it from directly underneath. Until you can do that youíll probably continue to make more work for yourself. You likely need a wedge larger than a chisel, you may have to buy one.

Another thing you can try is wrapping a ratchet binder between the fat part of the axle and the pan, and anchoring the other end to something secure, and pulling it out.

Iíd remove the port axle, unbolt the diff and wedge it off the pan before I attempted driving a drift through the diff because itíll be really easy to miss the target doing the latter.


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Old 07-05-2020, 06:24 PM
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Find a maker space, rent a bay, get the car up where you can work the problem

It's expensive stuff to break under there.
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Old 07-05-2020, 06:51 PM
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I'm going give it another go at it tomorrow if no luck gonna have to towed to bmw repair shop I can't get up in the air or I would have been doing this on the ground really hard from that way get a good bite on pisses me off I replaced so many axels in past mostly Japanese cars with no issues
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Old 07-05-2020, 06:52 PM
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Unfortunately I live in real small town no place to rent a bay
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Old 07-05-2020, 06:56 PM
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I did wrap a pretty heavy duty ratchet tie down to it attacked it to the hitch on my other car got it tight as possible nothing then I jumped on it several time it broke crazy because I think only half inch is stuck in there
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Old 07-08-2020, 11:21 AM
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this is the tool to pull the axle through the hub

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bav-auto.../b8800102~bav/

i bought one because i was in the same jam you were - couldnt get the axle back into the hub.

this tool pulls it through.


heres the tool in use:

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Old 07-09-2020, 09:25 AM
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Thanks wish I knew about this long time ago it's at the shop now hopefully they can get it out
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Old 07-11-2020, 03:47 AM
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I did wrap a pretty heavy duty ratchet tie down to it attacked it to the hitch on my other car got it tight as possible nothing then I jumped on it several time it broke crazy because I think only half inch is stuck in there
Itís not that the axle is stuck, the aftermarket circuit is oversize and is sitting nicely ion the lands of the splines inside the trans. It will take a lot of force to compress that back yo pop out.

Aftermarket is fine if you compare and measure this functionality before install.
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Old 07-11-2020, 12:54 PM
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Thanks everyone for your comments I took to a shop they got it out
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Old 07-12-2020, 03:09 AM
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Shame points for having to get help , 100

Deduction for getting help BEFORE you bust something else, 100

Net shame 0

Well done.

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