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Old 05-10-2016, 05:15 PM
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I drive currently between 5.5 l/100km (42MPG) and 3.5 l/100km (67MPG) when commuting. Most of the time it is around 58 MPG (4 l/100km). The car is charged at home and at work which means that the electricity consumption is currently about 11 KWH/100km. I drive between 25 km and 35km on a full charge and a single trip is about 70 km. The last days it was warm which seems to have a noticable positive effect on the range.

I force the car to drive in electric mode to ensure that the battery is empty when reaching my destination. Normally there is a lot of heavy traffic when commuting in which the electric mode works out quite well. I always drive often in eco-pro and I use the adaptive cruise control also quite often. Normally there are a few places where the speed goes up to 140-150 km/h and normally I accelerate very fast at least 1 time every trip. So, in general I am quite positive about the energy consumption of the car. As comparison, my 320iA was using 7.6 l/100km (30MPG) with the same driving style.

In NL the BMW 330e has a tax advantage for company cars which make the car attractive. But, I agree that the car is not very economical if you would add the cost of the charging stations into the overall cost. In that case a diesel is performing better. My colleague drives a BMW 320 ede which uses 4.2 l/100km (56MPG). His driving style is very 'relaxed' :-). However, I like the quiet and powerful engine a lot so for me the BMW 330e is the perfect car.
Thank you for this post, how long have you had your 330e?
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:09 PM
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How long I have the car doesn't matter too much. Probably it is more interesting knowing that I have driven the car for about 3000 km until now.
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:04 AM
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Hi Reuski.

I tried to set a 0-100kmh benchmark before tuning which caused the engine to run in the emergency motormanagement programs, disabled stability program and collision warning system. I had to return the car to the dealer. After 5 days I learned that the issue was apparently caused by myself since I installed a throttle response tuning kit (sprintbooster).
So in other words, the fault you had with your car had nothing to do with the Ventura boxtuning ? Did you ever install the box?

I'm interested in the Ventura Boxtuning for my 2016 320ix f31. (new B48 engine)
Wonder if the box for my car is the same as the 330e as they have the same engine.
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Are you sure it uses an N20 variant, and not a B48/B46 variant? Either way, I don't think I would want to be the first to test tuning a complicated hybrid setup.
Who buys a Hybrid and then wants to tune it.
By a Diesel it will eat that thing and be more economical to boot.
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:45 AM
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Who buys a Hybrid and then wants to tune it.
By a Diesel it will eat that thing and be more economical to boot.
People who want a hybrid buys a hybrid, and if you have a hybrid but you want it to be faster, what do you do? you tune it. simple as that.

And BTW not everyone lives in UK. In Norway a 320d (163hp) and a 330e is about the same price. A 330e smokes 320d any day, is better for the environment, and have a low MPG.

A 330D is aprox 30% more expensive.

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People who want a hybrid buys a hybrid, and if you have a hybrid but you want it to be faster, what do you do? you tune it. simple as that.

And BTW not everyone lives in UK. In Norway a 320d (163hp) and a 330e is about the same price. A 330e smokes 320d any day, is better for the environment, and have a low MPG.

A 330D is aprox 30% more expensive.
I have the 435D M Sport Gran Coup, it smokes most cars untuned.
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Old 05-20-2016, 10:52 AM
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So in other words, the fault you had with your car had nothing to do with the Ventura boxtuning ? Did you ever install the box?
No, this issue was not related to Ventura Tuning. I installed the SprintBooster myself which worked fine in my previous car. Note that SprintBooster did not release this modification for the 330e so I probably should not have installed the device at all. Still I am not sure if the issue was caused by the SprintBooster at all or that I have installed it wrongly. But, fact was, that an error was reported on the throttle too when scanning the car for errors.

I did not install the Ventura tuning. Still did not make up my mind
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:10 AM
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I have bought the Ventura tuning everything works good. The service Ventura gave me is also very good, they answer mail good and quick.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:23 AM
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Thanks Rayman, that's really good feedback. Is the performance improvement making the car very fun to drive?
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:39 AM
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With the Ventura tuning box i transformed my 320i to a 330i in 10 minutes.

(320i,330i and 330e have the same 2.0 liter B48 engine)

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Old 06-06-2016, 03:22 AM
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Ah I see, the 330e has a hybrid power train. The electric motor's integration with the combustion engine is more complicated, so we really want test this kit on a 330e. It's good to know you had a positive experience of Ventura.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:28 PM
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I decided to go for the tuning after all . So, next week I can give you the update how it works on my BMW 330e.
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Old 06-15-2016, 01:15 PM
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The tuning has been installed now. I have to say "impressive!". The car was already fast but now the car is a beast. The 0-100 time improved from 6.3s to 5.8s. I cannot get it faster yet due to too much wheel spin until about 40km/h. Before the tuning there was only a little spinning but now the tires were fighting for traction. I think that when the circumstances are better the measurement will improve but 0.5 seconds faster is already good.

The acceleration while driving on the highway and when overtaking cars is noticeable better. What a power.. The car keeps on accelerating powerful far beyond 170km.

So, the coming days I will try to do some more measurements from 0-100, from 80-120 and also keep track on the fuel economy. For now: very happy with the results!
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Old 06-17-2016, 01:35 PM
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Did you try some more? How do you launch?

When did you order and when did i arrive, where are you located?

Pictures?

255 rear tires?
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Old 06-17-2016, 02:50 PM
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No, I could not test 0-100km since today it was raining again.

In fact I visited Ventura tuning in Beilen, NL where Ventura Tuning has installed the module.

I have some pictures which I made yesterday. I have marked the connectors.


It is a company car so changing tires is not an option. This is also the reason why I went for a external tuning.
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Old 06-17-2016, 03:11 PM
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Thanks for the fast reply.

I just thought about the wheelspinn. If you got 225 instead of 255 off course it's spinning a bit more.

I am going external because of warranty, much easier to remove this before every workshop visit than softwaretuning.
I have an extra insurrance on engine and drivetrain, in case BMW will find out. But it doubt anything will go wrong, the gearbox and this engine is very very good.

I am thinking about an exhaust mod, much too quiet, even in sport mode. So i will propably open the original silencer and weld in a pipe on the left side where the flap is. so it is quiet when i want it and a little louder when i press sport.
You can't, company car.
I bought mine.

Thanks for the pictures, but something went wrong, can't see them.

How do you messure 0-100? app or performancebox?
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Old 06-17-2016, 03:39 PM
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Corrected the pictures. Never uploaded pictures before

I 'measured' 0-100 by video and then look to the frame-times. I also have used the BMW laptimer app which comes to the same measurement as looking at the video. So, that app seems accurate.

You can see in the picture showing the RPM that the RPM increase has a 'dip' at 4660 RPM (at 30km/h) and 6000 rpm (at 50 km/h and 78km/h). So, I do expect that the 0-100 km/h time can be improved.

With my previous car I also always removed the tuning. With this car the tuning kit will be easier to remove since the connectors are better reachable.

The engine sound could be a little more on the foreground but at the other side I do like the silent car.

The fuel consumption went up to 4.9l/100km during the 5000 km that I have driven until now. I am curious what the tuning will do.
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Old 06-17-2016, 03:59 PM
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Thanks!

How do you launch, since this model doesn't have launch control.
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Old 06-17-2016, 04:04 PM
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Put the mode in sport, gears in sport mode, dynamic traction on, left foot on the break and revs to 2000 rpm. GO!.
This gave the best result before the tuning with very limited wheel spin. Probably this is very bad for the car so I will not do this too much.
Indeed, the 330e does not have launch control

Do you have a better way of launching the car?
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Old 06-17-2016, 04:13 PM
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No i did it the same way, but never with mine, i did it with the demo BMW car, before i ordered mine.

0-100 is not important for me anyway, i like 60-100 and up, that's what i actually use when i accelerate. But good to know how fast i COULD get it from 0-100.

So, do you have 225 in the back or 255?
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Old 06-18-2016, 04:11 PM
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I have 225 in the back on 18 inch wheels. So, 255 would give better grip. I will do some 60-100 measurements too.
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Old 06-21-2016, 03:49 PM
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As announced I would do some more measurements. So, made a few videos and checked the timing on these video to get some indication of the acceleration times:

80-100 = 1.8s
80-120 = 3.5s
80-140 = 5.9s
120-140 = 2.5s
120-160 = 5.3s
50-80 = 1.8s
50-100 = 3.6s
60-80 = 1.3s
60-100 = 3.1s

This is of course a rough indication of the time based on 4 acceleration tests. More test would be needed to get a more complete picture. But, this gives a good indication.
I also did a 0-100 test again which was now at 5.6s. Still with wheel-spin and a slightly wet road. I put the engine on 1500 rpm when launching the car instead of 2000 rpm.

Note that the tuning is not on the most aggressive setting and I am using RON 95. It is possible to change the mapping for more power but then I also have to use RON 98. Currently the car feels fast enough.
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Old 06-22-2016, 01:40 PM
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I've filled 98 since day one.

Thanks for the post!

To be honest, the car feels fast enough just OEM, but why do OEM!?
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Old 06-22-2016, 03:52 PM
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Why not OEM? Because the engine runs smoother and feels always more powerful. That is mainly due to the improved torque. So, also when driving normal it just feels better.

The engine is powerful so it is lilely restricted in order to fit well in the engine range. With an unrestricted engine the car would be too close to the 340i from performance point of view.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:57 AM
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Wow, I just caught up with this thread. This is great news. Thanks for testing this man. If you have to remove it for servicing, will it leave any traces, like spare open connectors?
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