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The third generation X3 starts production in August of 2017 and will include the new X3 M40i top of the line performance model.

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Old 10-29-2018, 10:05 AM
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X3 30i or m40i?

I'm looking to lease one so not to concerned about value down the road, other than residual value. I've driven them both and they are both really nice, has anyone gotten a 30i that now wishes they had the m40i, or vice versa?
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Just go with what works best for you....please
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Just go with what works best for you....please
Why have there been any write ups on this? The only one I found asking this question was from last year.

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh....php?t=1190305

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X3 30i or m40i?

You know what? You’re right. It may have been in the other forum, which is overrun with the usual “Ballahs” or “Real Enthusiats” get M40i

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I have no regrets getting the 30i. It has ample get up and go for what I need or want. For reference I had an M4 for ~18 months and almost straight traded it for my 30i. I was looking for something more comfortable, compliant and didn’t need to get re-filled twice a week.
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You know what? You’re right. It may have been in the other forum, which is overrun with the usual “Ballahs” or “Real Enthusiats” get M40i

I apologize.


I have no regrets getting the 30i. It has ample get up and go for what I need or want. For reference I had an M4 for ~18 months and almost straight traded it for my 30i. I was looking for something more comfortable, compliant and didn’t need to get re-filled twice a week.

Thanks. It's tough to tell just from a 15m test drive how any car would really fill my needs. I had an m40i as a loaner for a week and it was great so I've looking for one in the area with the options I want, but I tested a 30i over the weekend and it seemed absolutely fine to me although I only had it on the quick 15 minute test drive. It's nice and sounds great but I'm just wondering if I'd ever need all that extra power.
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The 2.0 liter turbocharged "30i" has a much power as the old six-cylinder 30i's before turbocharging. Also, that power is "usable," meaning lots of torque at low engine speeds.

We got a 30i. It has as much power as Frau Putzer's old three-liter V6 Honda. Also, this is an SUV. It's mission is to go to Target, Freah Market, Starbucks, Sam's Club, the county recycling station, etc., not carving through mountain passes at high speed. That's what my 535i is for... as least since I put some decent tires on it. The money we saved by getting a 30i over an M40i will go into my Porsche 911 fund.

Here's a big peeve I have with the M40i and even the 30i with the M Sport Package: no option for non-run-flat tires (non-RFT's). We got the 19", all season non-RFT's (option code 25X). In addition to getting a better ride from tires that last a log longer than the standard RFT's, BMW throws in a free spare tire with 25X. I realistically expect to get between 50k and 60k miles out of the OE non-RFT's.
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All that extra power isn’t about “need”
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OP topics like this are beat to death on forums. Here on bimmerfest, its not normally the 30i vs the 40i, its "do I buy a 320 vs a 330, or a 330 vs a 340???" Same exact question, just different class of cars.

The extra power is not about "need" its about whether you want it or not. Both are fine. No one can tell you if you should spend the extra money for the extra power other than you.

In "general" people dont tend to say "Man I wish my car was slower!!!" but again its all relative to the mission for the car, and what else you have to drive. Both FC and Auto had M level BMWs so have had " the speed" . FC also lived in Germany where he could use "the speed".

My wife, who currently drives an X5d, is considering an X3 as we dont need the size of the X5... but she told me "I want the M40i". She just likes the feeling of acceleration (the X5d gives a good feeling of that with its low end torque).

For Me / Us, if we got one, the M40i would be the one we got. Doesnt make it "better" than the 30i, at all.. just better for what "I" (well my wife) would want from the vehicle.

There is no real point in having this debate on a website, because there is no real point to it. Its up to what you want, and what you are willing (and able) to pay for.
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I had a 30i as a loaner for about 2 weeks, it is pretty powerful for a 4 cyl and much nicer than my 2015 xDrive28i was. I do have an M40i, but honestly, it really is a personal decision on what is important for you. I think the 30i is probably more than enough for most people 97% of the time.
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I traded my 3 series as I needed and SUV. Have the 3.0 with all the options and has all the power one would need for an SUV. Just a shame to take it in the woods.
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Our friends have the 30i and do not regret it at all. They are NOT enthusiasts by any stretch of the imagination, though. They love their X3.

I am an "enthusiast" and appreciate the additional power, and fat steering wheel, adjustable suspension, so we bought the M40i. Plus, we tow a 4000 boat and trailer in the mountains, and figured that would help justify the extra power!
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Yeah, this is one of those totally personal preference things. Would we like a m40? Of course! Do we wanna shell out the extra $10K for it? Hell no!

However, we think the 30i is fast enough as it is. It's a SUV, not a race car. We set reasonable expectations for performance. Can I pass easily? Yes. Ok, good enough.

However, we've also got a Tesla as our other car. That's our "fun" car. The urge to go fast in the BMW is severely dampened when the other car is a Tesla and it's instant torque. If we didn't have a fast car and the BMW had to do it all, then it's a harder decision. We buy, so the 30i still would have been fast enough for us (I'm old enough that I remember how "fast" performance cars in the 90s were... or weren't compared to what's available on a regular car now). The difference in payments and interest isn't worth it to us. Since you're leasing, it may be worth the difference to you.
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There is no real point in having this debate on a website, because there is no real point to it. Its up to what you want, and what you are willing (and able) to pay for.
Disagree. I'm in the market now and am right now considering both models. I appreciate all the comments, feedback and it's great to hear actual experiences. This is precisely what this forum is for.
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Personally I traded a 08 335i sport sedan for the X3 3.0 Yes the X3 is not as quick, its not as fast. It does merge onto the freeways nicely, and does have enough power to pass anything that needs passing. It is also returning a respectable computer indicated 26.9 MPG combined.
Do I miss the thrust of the 335? to be honest, seldom. The smoothness, and the isolation trumps any of that for me. I am perfectly happy with the 3.0, have never wished that I had ponied up the extra bucks for the M40. But as stated before, that is me.
Again, to be honest, I have never set foot into a M40. I drove the 3.0 and it met all of my needs and wants.
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Personally I traded a 08 335i sport sedan for the X3 3.0 Yes the X3 is not as quick, its not as fast. It does merge onto the freeways nicely, and does have enough power to pass anything that needs passing. It is also returning a respectable computer indicated 26.9 MPG combined.
Do I miss the thrust of the 335? to be honest, seldom. The smoothness, and the isolation trumps any of that for me. I am perfectly happy with the 3.0, have never wished that I had ponied up the extra bucks for the M40. But as stated before, that is me.
Again, to be honest, I have never set foot into a M40. I drove the 3.0 and it met all of my needs and wants.
Do what makes you happy and fits into your budget.


I miss this


However I do enjoy my X3 more for other reasons.
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Disagree. I'm in the market now and am right now considering both models. I appreciate all the comments, feedback and it's great to hear actual experiences. This is precisely what this forum is for.
Absolutely test drive both. The M40i is substantially more money and it will not be enjoyed more. There is nothing wrong with an X3. I have no regrets and would buy the M again...but to own the X3 would not be a step down. It's about what a buyer likes, wants and can afford. Good luck and enjoy either.
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Absolutely test drive both. The M40i is substantially more money and it will not be enjoyed more. There is nothing wrong with an X3. I have no regrets and would buy the M again...but to own the X3 would not be a step down. It's about what a buyer likes, wants and can afford. Good luck and enjoy either.


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However I do enjoy my X3 more for other reasons.

I "had" to do that once on I-95 in North Carolina in my E46 M3. Some old lady in a Buick was tailgating me, probably because I had a radar detector and she was late for her bingo game or hair solon for some another blue dye job. I kept speeding up, but so did she. 105 MPH and she was still there. So, when I saw a patch of open road and no place for troopers to hide, I did a blast to get away from her.

Later, when people would start chasing me, I'd settle in at 105 MPH so they could almost catch me. If I got stopped by a trooper, I would have said "That guy was waving his fist at me and weaving into my lane. I feared for my life, and I figured running from him would be better than shooting him."

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I "had" to do that once on I-95 in North Carolina in my E46 M3. Some old lady in a Buick was tailgating me, probably because I had a radar detector and she was late for her bingo game or hair solon for some another blue dye job. I kept speeding up, but so did she. 105 MPH and she was still there. So, when I saw a patch of open road and no place for troopers to hide, I did a blast to get away from her.

Later, when people would start chasing me, I'd settle in at 105 MPH so they could almost catch me. If I got stopped by a trooper, I would have said "That guy was waving his fist at me and weaving into my lane. I feared for my life, and I figured running from him would be better than shooting him."

Stay in your lane! …. Crazy Yank's on the Autobahn.


No excuses needed on the Autobahn.
My x3 maxes out at 133MPH, but that’s all momentum after 130.

Come March I’ll be at more plebeian cruising speeds back in the US
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Absolutely test drive both. The M40i is substantially more money and it will not be enjoyed more. There is nothing wrong with an X3. I have no regrets and would buy the M again...but to own the X3 would not be a step down. It's about what a buyer likes, wants and can afford. Good luck and enjoy either.
This is the same thing that I said that @scbeiber quoted. The only thing different I said was that I dont see the point in debating it here, because of the above.

The X3 30i and M40i are the same vehicle, but the M40 comes with a more expensive engine, and more things standard than the 30i.

Whether its "worth it" (which is the only debate one can have on this topic) is dependent on what individual wants from the vehicle. These debates about engines always turn out the same way on car forums (not just BMW).

People who bought the higher end model will say that its worth it (because they bought it). People who didnt decided that for them, it wasnt. I still dont see what can be debated about engine size and worth on this topic.
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Absolutely test drive both. The M40i is substantially more money and it will not be enjoyed more. There is nothing wrong with an X3. I have no regrets and would buy the M again...but to own the X3 would not be a step down. It's about what a buyer likes, wants and can afford. Good luck and enjoy either.
This is the same thing that I said that @scbeiber quoted. The only thing different I said was that I dont see the point in debating it here, because of the above.

The X3 30i and M40i are the same vehicle, but the M40 comes with a more expensive engine, and more things standard than the 30i.

Whether its "worth it" (which is the only debate one can have on this topic) is dependent on what individual wants from the vehicle. These debates about engines always turn out the same way on car forums (not just BMW).

People who bought the higher end model will say that its worth it (because they bought it). People who didnt decided that for them, it wasnt. I still dont see what can be debated about engine size and worth on this topic.
Agreed. No reason to debate engine size is right. Years ago I got into a 4 or 6cyl A6.... felt sluggish. Bought the V8. Same with the 06 and 2014 X3. Got the 3 liter. As for the M .... always wanted one.
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FWIW, we did decide to replace her leased X5d with an X3 M40i as I said we might in my first post in this thread. We are getting one that is pretty loaded as we tend to like vehicle options (and I like all the safety tech, makes me feel better about her driving around).

Our X3 M40 MSRP is 67,390, which is more than the cost of the entry level new X5, but her current X5 is also loaded (MSRP north of 75k for an X5d), so in effect she would be losing options (as well as losing size) if we did not get the options.

She loved (loved) the car on the test drive, wanted the smaller size, and said it would be easier to navigate parking lots and such. She (and I) absolutely do... not..."need" the extra speed from the M40i but the enthusiast in me likes it, and she also likes to "get up N go" sometimes. She had a huge grin on her face when she test drove it. I didnt even test drive it actually, as how she felt about it was more important to me than how I felt about it, even though we both will drive both of our cars.

To answer the thread, for me the M40 is absolutely worth it, but I think there is zero wrong with the 30i. We like the bigger engine (and like the noise of the bigger engine), and optioned the way we like them, the difference in price is closer to 5k to 5500 (once you put the same options on an 30i equivalent to how we have the 40i specced).
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