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Old 05-29-2019, 06:07 PM
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What's your experience with 664M (19'') rims?

After driving for one year in NJ/PA area I had all four rims bent.
Switched to 245/40R-19 PIRELLI CINTURATO P7 ALL SEASON PLUS XL
The ride is much quieter, basically silent, very comfy.... a bit too soft for my taste. I drive on Sport configuration any chance I get - when the road is not too bumpy, makes it feel a bit sportier. Do miss RFT surefooted-ness... and have to drag the full-size spare in the trunk (couldn't find any sane-priced compacts spares). But hopefully next year will have fewer rims to replace.

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Old 05-29-2019, 08:26 PM
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1.5 years on my '18 540i MSport with the original 19" Conti RFT's, no issues. MD area maybe not as bad as your area, but I do have to dodge some potholes now and then, especially when taking a ride into DC.

Wife's new Giulia came with 18" Pirelli Cinturato P7's and they are RFTs.
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:56 AM
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I've had my 2017 540 M-Sport for 2.5 years. Two bubbles,but no bent rims. Hate the wheel design, but it seems to be structurally solid.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:53 AM
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I took the stock 20" wheel/tires off mine and put 19" 7 series wheels on mine (wider than five series wheels). I put one size up Pirelli P-Zero (non runflat) all season tires on mine - 255/40 front and 285/35 rear. I'm very happy. I don't drive it on any fun backroads but in my "normal" driving I don't feel any perceived difference in handling response. They are quite a bit quieter and smoother than the 20's as you would expect.
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Old 05-31-2019, 05:22 AM
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I have these stock 19s, I like the look personally. Still sporty but not too "out there" like a lot of aftermarket wheels. As for the Pirellis - they kind of suck. We have a ton of potholes in Chicago and I've already had 2 tires bubble. Dealer was trying to give me grief about replacing them within the first month of ownership but they relented. So far no further issues. They definitely aren't the smoothest out there but they are RFTs so...
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:38 AM
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We went with the 20 inch 759 wheels, looked a lot better than the 19 inch they were offering this year. We have already done two road trips with one to New Orleans, no issues so far and the sound is pretty quiet for run flats.

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Old 05-31-2019, 09:03 AM
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Have the 19ís with Goodyear RFTs and, knock on wood, no issues yet (just over 1 year). I do mostly highway driving, but do spend a fair amount of time in the pothole haven that is Chicago.
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Old 05-31-2019, 12:12 PM
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I bought my '17 540xDrive in March 2017; it isn't an MSport but was equipped with the 19" 635 rims & Pirelli P7 245/40x19 RFTs.
My previous F10 535xDrive has 18" and Conti RFT 245/46x18 and I always felt the extra 5mm of sidewall was a nice cushion. So I was a bit nervous - esp with NJ's HORRIBLE roads.
I have been pleasantly surprised (until last week - but more about that later) at how they have shaken off potholes and RR tracks without damage.
Now about last week ... Coming back from a viewing/funeral near the Jersey shore on Memorial Day - funeral was bad enough :-( Traffic UGH ... in a line of slow traffic on a generally well maintained road ... when BAM! I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT POTHOLE!! Was concentrating on the bumper of a slow car in front of me. Immediately checked TPMS and inflation pressures were OK. Drove home and took a look ... a small sidewall bubble. Fortunately no apparent wheel damage and the car drove fine.

After the holiday weekend I went off to my BMW dealer and had the damaged tire replaced under Pirelli's Road Hazard Warranty (no cost to me). No wheel damage or anything else out of wack. BTW that tire was also replaced under the same warranty last September when it swallowed a HUGE screw near the outer tread block - NOT REPAIRABLE :-(

I do keep my tires inflated at the iDrive recommended pressures PLUS 3 PSI. I think that seems to help with shrugging off most pothole damage. And the Pirelli's seem to wear well - I'm about to turn 20,000 miles and I'm at about 7/32nds all around.

So I suspect the 19's on my NON-MSport G30 either are a bit more sturdy than the #664's or I'm luckier thank the OP?? BTW - because I'm always curious ... I drove back to take a look at the pothole I encountered. I thought I took a picture but maybe dodging summer traffic I wasn't standing in the road toooooo long ... but that sucker was ALMOST 8" deep!!!!! and 2 ft across. I called it into the county road department and NJ State Police because it presented a HAZARD. I was told it was patched later that same day!
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Old 05-31-2019, 12:12 PM
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I bought my current '17 540xDrive in March 2017; it isn't an MSport but was equipped with the 19" 635 rims & Pirelli P7 245/40x19 RFTs.
My previous F10 535xDrive has 18" and Conti RFT 245/45x18 and I always felt the extra 5mm of sidewall was a nice cushion. So I was a bit nervous - esp with NJ's HORRIBLE roads.
I have been pleasantly surprised (until last week - but more about that later) at how they have shaken off potholes and RR tracks without damage.
Now about last week ... Coming back from a viewing/funeral near the Jersey shore on Memorial Day - funeral was bad enough :-( Traffic UGH ... in a line of slow traffic on a generally well maintained road ... when BAM! I DIDN'T EVEN SEE THAT POTHOLE!! Was concentrating on the bumper of a slow car in front of me. Immediately checked TPMS and inflation pressures were OK. Drove home and took a look ... a small sidewall bubble. Fortunately no apparent wheel damage and the car drove fine.

After the holiday weekend I went off to my BMW dealer and had the damaged tire replaced under Pirelli's Road Hazard Warranty (no cost to me). No wheel damage or anything else out of wack. BTW that tire was also replaced under the same warranty last September when it swallowed a HUGE screw near the outer tread block - NOT REPAIRABLE :-(

I do keep my tires inflated at the iDrive recommended pressures PLUS 3 PSI. I think that seems to help with shrugging off most pothole damage. And the Pirelli's seem to wear well - I'm about to turn 20,000 miles and I'm at about 7/32nds all around.

So I suspect the 19's on my NON-MSport G30 either are a bit more sturdy than the #664's or I'm luckier thank the OP?? BTW - because I'm always curious ... I drove back to take a look at the pothole I encountered. I thought I took a picture but maybe dodging summer traffic I wasn't standing in the road toooooo long ... but that sucker was ALMOST 8" deep!!!!! and 2 ft across. I called it into the county road department and NJ State Police because it presented a HAZARD. I was told it was patched later that same day!
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Old 06-02-2019, 03:10 PM
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I too have the 19s with Goodyear fun-flats. I hit a couple of potholes on local freeways at speed and also a couple of local streets. So far I haven't experienced any problems other than picking up a nail in the Home Depot parking lot.

They also seem pretty quiet and grip well. I first thought I'd replace them with non-RFTs when their time was up, but I'm reconsidering though I may shop other brands.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:44 PM
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Iíve been running on my 664M wheels for the past 10 days now, while waiting for some new Pirelli P-Zero Sport tires to come in for my 648M wheels. This is the first time Iím driving on them since the first day I got the car 15 months ago (I put the 648ís on that same night I got the car).

My 664M wheels has the Goodyear Sport all-weather RFTís on them, and Iíve been running a staggered setup with the 648M wheels and Pirelli P-Zero Sport RFTís. Forgetting about 19Ē vs 20Ē and a slightly wider contact area on the 648Mís, Iíve noticed the Goodyear Sport tires absolutely suck with driving. Theyíre noisy, easily lose traction, and itís scary coming to a fast stop as the ABS activates and you can hear the tires skipping on the ground trying to get traction. The P-Zero Sport tires have a much lower tread wear rating so theyíll wear faster, but theyíre also so much more grippy feeling on the road. I have a lot more confidence driving with the P-Zero tires.

That said, if I ever wear out the Continental tires, Iím definitely switching them to the same P-Zero Sport tires. However, thatíll probably never happen since these are the original wheels that came on the car, and Iím saving them for the lease return in a couple of years, with the same tires so I donít have to spend more money on them.

Also, IMO the 648Mís make my car look better and more aggressive with its stance, offset, and wider tires that Iím running on them.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:23 PM
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I've enjoyed them so far. I'm also in NJ and was on 295 NB just a few miles from Delaware Memorial Bridge last week. Construction left a sharp ridge across the whole highway so abrupt that I swore I bent the rims, but I haven't noticed anything wrong yet! It was such a bad hit that the radio shut off and I swore it broke something. Ended up just being the radio muted itself somehow.
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Old 06-16-2019, 10:09 AM
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My 2012 3 series came with 18" Pirelli RFT and I had nothing but trouble with the 18" rims getting scuffed in our potholes. Then we got a 2015 535 with 19" Goodyears. After three years of driving I had no problems scuffing the rims in our potholes. The Goodyears were excellent at providing a quiet and comfortable ride in all surfaces and still felt very secure driving in the rain. Our present 2018 530e came with 19" Pirelli RFT and no problems with potholes but they took us back to the miserably loud and rough riding Pirelli RFT. The only time the tires feel civilized is when driving on black-top roads. On cements, they can't hold a candle to the Goodyears. They feel and sound like pick-up truck tires!
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Old 06-17-2019, 08:14 AM
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IMHO the new RFT are way better than before. In the past I have gone through 13 and 9 tires per three years lease. Last two leases no issues. Same roads, same driving.
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:49 AM
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Have the 19ís with Goodyear RFTs and, knock on wood, no issues yet (just over 1 year). I do mostly highway driving, but do spend a fair amount of time in the pothole haven that is Chicago.
We have the same 2018 540D M sport mine with DHP with Goodyear All Season. I have every option available less driverless parking. I have noticed a resonating hum at speed. 70 up it is very noticeable. I'm suspecting the Goodyears. Never owned a car with them. Other than the hum the tires seem fine. My nearest comparison was my 2015 535D m sport RWD with Michelin's. No hum then. Are you experiencing this resonating sound on your Goodyear RF's by chance? Absolutely love the car otherwise. Thanks for you input in advance.
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Old 07-09-2019, 01:30 PM
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The Pirelli RF tires will hum at almost any speed depending on the surface. Goodyear RF I had in my 2015 were quite an any speed. Perhaps you're about ready for a tire rotation?
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Old 07-09-2019, 03:22 PM
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Only 4,000 miles on her. Maybe you're on to something here. Also checked tire wear. They all have the same wear across the tread so I'm guessing the alignment is at least close from the factory.
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Old 07-09-2019, 04:39 PM
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I started this thread, so just an update to the current status, which is in short "SUCKS".

Since I was told by the dealership that two of my ($760) rims are bent and won't be covered by the warranty I went to some guy who repairs (straightens) them. $120 each. Test drove immediately after - the vibration went down but didn't go away completely. Called him, complained, he swore that the wheels are super straight, suggested to do road force balance. I went to a shop he recommended, another $60, immediate test - vibration is still there. Went back to the dealer - asked to fix at any cost, they re-balanced, the vibration seems to be less pronounced but its not gone. I can tell 82mph with my eyes closed, as my throttle foot starts vibrating at exactly this speed.

At this point I'm completely desperate to get the car fixed at any cost, will probably go back and ask them to put new rims, but I'm really afraid this won't fix the damn vibration and I'll be just $1,500 poorer for no good reason. I don't know what else to do and where else to go for help. It kind of suck to have this issue with a $70,000 car after 12 months. I had better luck with Camry/Honda/Nissan...

On a positive note Pirelli's are super quite and super comfortable. If you drive RFT's and think they are quiet then you don't know what quiet is. These are REALLY quiet, like you-do-not-know-if-the-car-is-moving quiet. But side-to-side transitions are less precise and I keep the tire pressure in the high range to add some stiffness to the tires.
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Old 07-11-2019, 04:50 AM
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I started this thread, so just an update to the current status, which is in short "SUCKS".

Since I was told by the dealership that two of my ($760) rims are bent and won't be covered by the warranty I went to some guy who repairs (straightens) them. $120 each. Test drove immediately after - the vibration went down but didn't go away completely. Called him, complained, he swore that the wheels are super straight, suggested to do road force balance. I went to a shop he recommended, another $60, immediate test - vibration is still there. Went back to the dealer - asked to fix at any cost, they re-balanced, the vibration seems to be less pronounced but its not gone. I can tell 82mph with my eyes closed, as my throttle foot starts vibrating at exactly this speed.

At this point I'm completely desperate to get the car fixed at any cost, will probably go back and ask them to put new rims, but I'm really afraid this won't fix the damn vibration and I'll be just $1,500 poorer for no good reason. I don't know what else to do and where else to go for help. It kind of suck to have this issue with a $70,000 car after 12 months. I had better luck with Camry/Honda/Nissan...

On a positive note Pirelli's are super quite and super comfortable. If you drive RFT's and think they are quiet then you don't know what quiet is. These are REALLY quiet, like you-do-not-know-if-the-car-is-moving quiet. But side-to-side transitions are less precise and I keep the tire pressure in the high range to add some stiffness to the tires.
I had my wheels and tires removed and reinstalled recently for that bothersome resonating sound. The dealership used their air tool to reinstall them and apparently it was set too high. I had a vibration which I solved by retorquing the wheels. 101 ft lbs is the recommended torque as per the manual. Maybe this would reduce/eliminate your vibrations? Hopefully the hubs were not warped too.
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:29 AM
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We have the same 2018 540D M sport mine with DHP with Goodyear All Season. I have every option available less driverless parking. I have noticed a resonating hum at speed. 70 up it is very noticeable. I'm suspecting the Goodyears. Never owned a car with them. Other than the hum the tires seem fine. My nearest comparison was my 2015 535D m sport RWD with Michelin's. No hum then. Are you experiencing this resonating sound on your Goodyear RF's by chance? Absolutely love the car otherwise. Thanks for you input in advance.
Just took a longer drive yesterday and didnít notice any hum, but then again, I was listening to music and podcasts....
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Old 07-23-2019, 01:32 PM
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Beware that if you feel/hear an intermittent vibration with on-off periods in quick succession and getting closer with speed the issue might not be the rims, but the bearing. Had a similar problem hitting a pothole, needing to replace the tire and rim, and the sound stayed, starting at around 80 km/h, and mostly disappearing at over 120 km/h. When I went back and asked the dealer to check, they actually found a repair bulletin (that I actually saw printed out) instructing that for movement-related damage affecting the rim, the bearing should be replaced as well.
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