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Old 02-11-2013, 01:41 AM
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2012 328i Luxury vs Euro 2013 335 X-Drive Luxury

My US Spec 2012 328i Luxury Line has some work being done on it in the shop and I picked up a rental for the week. They gave me a European version (I live in Germany) 2013 335 x-drive Luxury. I thought I would take a moment to compare and contrast some of the performance and features.

1. Engine - the 2014 335 has th I6 vs the 4-Cyl turbo in the 328i. The difference is noticeable in multiple areas. Obviously it has more power, and it does not have a turbo-lag. The increase in power and responsiveness is noticeable. There is a downside to it thought, there is a lot more vibration in the 335, it seems to be constantly rumbling, like a race horse waiting to get out of the gate. That is great for when you want to drive in a spirited way but it does reduce the luxury feel. I tried riding in Sport, Comfort, and Eco mode and the rumble is there all the time. Personally I prefer the more luxurious feel of 4-cyl N20 engine, I get enough responsiveness but also get a luxury feel. I'm not sure if this is all the engine or is partially due to the fact that the 335 is an xDrive.

2. idrive is upgraded. The functionality is the same, menus all in the same place and perform the same function but it is all more "glossy". There are better looking fonts and more graphics, looks just a bit more visually appealing. Even on the PDC, instead of a flat 2-dimensional representation of the car it shows a model of a 3er from a 3d perspective from the upper rear, no more function but looks a little jazier.

3. There is no button in the cab to unlock the trunk, you have to push the key fob. This is interesting, maybe a European thing?

4. The side mirrors are different than US spec cars. The mirrors are slightly rounded to allow a more panoramic view. I'm sure I would get use to it in time but at first glance it gives a blurry appearance, almost like being a little drunk. Benefit is that you get a wider field of view.

5. This model has the Lane Warning system and the Speed Limit info in the HUD, the speed limit info works perfectly, captures road work signs etc.

I know I'll get flamed a little for saying it but I find myself really put off by the increased road vibration from either I6 engine or X-Drive AWD suspension. I can see where there would be a lot of enthusiasm for someone who is more into the sport car side of BMW rather than the luxury side, personally I prefer a little bit of sport in my luxury car; glad I got the 328i, it is perfect for me.
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The inline six design is inherently perfectly balanced. The inline four is not, by any stretch of the imagination. Engine vibration with the inline six is not normal. It should be smooth as silk.
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Old 02-11-2013, 07:59 AM
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Strange, my N55 has zero rumble or vibration. Maybe that car had some bad gas?

If you really want to know what zero turbo lag is like, try an ActiveHybrid. The electric motor is sandwiched in there, and the instant torque overcomes any time needed for the turbos to spool up.

Yes, in US cars there is still a trunk button in the 335i, by your left leg.
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The inline six design is inherently perfectly balanced. The inline four is not, by any stretch of the imagination. Engine vibration with the inline six is not normal. It should be smooth as silk.
Not sure how you come to that conclusion. A lot of the reviews I've read have said that, as a result of the heavier i6, the 335 is weighted heavily to the front end, reducing handling. That the 328, with the lighter engine is actually balanced better. The rumbling I was talking about wasn't about balance, it was about power waiting to be used. Like I said the i6 is obviously more responsive and powerful, but either that power or the xdrive suspension goes straight through the car and into the seats, you can feel it, more powerful but less refined. Not a bad thing just a choice to make.
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Not sure how you come to that conclusion. A lot of the reviews I've read have said that, as a result of the heavier i6, the 335 is weighted heavily to the front end, reducing handling. That the 328, with the lighter engine is actually balanced better. The rumbling I was talking about wasn't about balance, it was about power waiting to be used. Like I said the i6 is obviously more responsive and powerful, but either that power or the xdrive suspension goes straight through the car and into the seats, you can feel it, more powerful but less refined. Not a bad thing just a choice to make.
It's not the engine weight or the car weight distribution. You noted that the i6 engine showed some vibration. A 4 cylinder engine should vibrate more than a 6 (and a 6 more than an 8) as there are less cylinders pushing at different angles to spin the engine. The i4 has more "dead spots" than a i6.

I am pretty sure I explained this badly and I hope someone with better pedagogic skills will chip in.
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Not sure how you come to that conclusion.
Physics. I'll let you look it up.

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It's not the engine weight or the car weight distribution. You noted that the i6 engine showed some vibration. A 4 cylinder engine should vibrate more than a 6 (and a 6 more than an 8) as there are less cylinders pushing at different angles to spin the engine. The i4 has more "dead spots" than a i6.

I am pretty sure I explained this badly and I hope someone with better pedagogic skills will chip in.
It's not actually the number of cylinders that come into play. It's the arrangement. An inline six is inherently balanced because of the inline configuration and the six cylinders. A V6 is not an inherently balanced design. And, actually, neither is a V8. Though it is more balanced than a V6. A V12 is also inherently balanced, because it is basically two inline sixes in a V formation.
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