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Old 01-08-2016, 06:51 AM
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I've always been concerned about carbon build up as well and from my experience with the car I've owned the longest, the E39 for 10 years now, together with proper maintenance I've been dropping engine/injector cleaners into the tank prior to a spirited run on the freeway every 5000kms throughout its life....

Just recently having performed a true MPG test and engine power output reading they're as close as makes no difference to factory spec.
So how I see it, every little bit of good practice goes a long way...Our fuel quality over here is also of very high standards due to strict EU testing and we have 98 and 95 octane only.
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I've always been concerned about carbon build up as well and from my experience with the car I've owned the longest, the E39 for 10 years now, together with proper maintenance I've been dropping engine/injector cleaners into the tank prior to a spirited run on the freeway every 5000kms throughout its life....

Just recently having performed a true MPG test and engine power output reading they're as close as makes no difference to factory spec.
So how I see it, every little bit of good practice goes a long way...Our fuel quality over here is also of very high standards due to strict EU testing and we have 98 and 95 octane only.
The E39 does not have a direct injection engine, so it is not at risk for carbon buildup like newer cars. Very different scenario.
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Old 01-08-2016, 07:52 AM
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Carbon build up occurs in all combustion engines as there's a controlled burn of air and fuel in the chamber,... Ofcourse in direct injection applications the issue is of big concern as it turns out...
I was merely illustrating how in my case with conventional multi-point fuel injection the issue of carbon build up, as less of an issue it may be compared to DI, can be minimised with good practice.

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Old 01-08-2016, 08:22 AM
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Honestly, I think carbon buildup is going to become endemic to many, many modern engines from all manufacturers due to direct injection. It really makes me wonder about the long-term durability of them.
100% agreed.

Thankfully, the Coyote 5.0 is not a DI motor.

Dealership called and they found a truck that they are bringing home for me. 2012 Platinum, crew cab, 40k miles, 5.0L V8. It'd be sold to me as a CPO with all the warranty stuff intact.

If the numbers work out, I suppose it's mine
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Honestly, I think carbon buildup is going to become endemic to many, many modern engines from all manufacturers due to direct injection. It really makes me wonder about the long-term durability of them.
The engines themselves aren't generating any more carbon, it's just there's no cleaning mechanism for the intake manifold since there's no fuel/detergent flowing through it in direct injection engines. I think you're right on the durability concern, but I think it's going to be related to the newer engines having significantly more power generated per cubic inch than production engines have had in the past.
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There are two different EcoBoost engines for the F150, though. There's the 2.7L EB V6 and 3.5L EB V6. The 5.0L V8 has 20hp more than the 3.5L EcoBoost, but the 3.5L has about 35ft.lbs. more torque.

I'm not sure which one I'd prefer, but I have read that the EcoBoost engines are known for getting far worse fuel economy than claimed by Ford.
Right but I think the 2.7 is new body style only.

The EcoBoost engines have much more power potential than the 5.0. Strap on a tune and exhaust and you make a big gain in power.





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100% agreed.

Thankfully, the Coyote 5.0 is not a DI motor.

Dealership called and they found a truck that they are bringing home for me. 2012 Platinum, crew cab, 40k miles, 5.0L V8. It'd be sold to me as a CPO with all the warranty stuff intact.

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Old 01-08-2016, 08:31 AM
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The engines themselves aren't generating any more carbon, it's just there's no cleaning mechanism for the intake manifold since there's no fuel/detergent flowing through it in direct injection engines. I think you're right on the durability concern, but I think it's going to be related to the newer engines having significantly more power generated per cubic inch than production engines have had in the past.
If I get a DI engine, IE a 335, I'll be installing meth injection. More power potential and it will help clean the valves like port fuel injection would.
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Old 01-08-2016, 09:03 AM
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Right but I think the 2.7 is new body style only.

The EcoBoost engines have much more power potential than the 5.0. Strap on a tune and exhaust and you make a big gain in power.
I was looking at tunes out of curiousity and the tuned powerband sucks, literally peaks at like 500hp/500ft-lbs for about 100rpms between 2500 and 3k, and then immediately drops off. Looks worse than a diesel.
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Old 01-08-2016, 10:55 AM
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For example: M5 E39 bumper my cost is $350 after tax. Brand new, OEM. Regular E39 bumper my cost is $250 after tax. Brand new, OEM. Of course it doesn't include paint or anything, but offsetting that cost helps a damn bit.

My update to my list will be not going with an M5 bumper. The car will look weird with an M5 bumper up front and regular in the rear. I decided to stick with the regular bumper and unpainted trim.
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Old 01-08-2016, 11:19 AM
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Aaaaannnd now my pants is getting tighter... and surrounded by dudes. Way to go man, way to go. I am now in hell.

Do you have any more pics of the car, front and rear? I want to get a vision of what it would look like with regular rear bumper and front M5 bumper.
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It's called knowing what to look for when look at the bumper trims. I been playing with these toy cars for a long time. I can look at a visual, provided it has some styling queues for the generation, and can pick out what BMW version/series it is.


And DIO, that is an M rear bumper, not a regular bumper bruh. I need M5 front bumper with regular rear bumper so I can do a 360 of it in my mind.
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I was looking at tunes out of curiousity and the tuned powerband sucks, literally peaks at like 500hp/500ft-lbs for about 100rpms between 2500 and 3k, and then immediately drops off. Looks worse than a diesel.
Don't hate on the diesel power!

Have a picture of the graph? That's still a lot of power
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As to why I did it, had to replace flywheel bolts as they are one time use, and new clutch disk and throwout bearing.



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The new 97 m3 has been amazing. Not driving it in the winter sucks. It's been good to get some maintenance out of the way though. Did the CCV valve and cleaned the ICV. Also did VCG and plugs. Someone had put autolite crap in there. Cooling is coming up now. Not going top of the line everywhere, but definitely going with the stewart pump and probably z3m s54 radiator with the 3rd core. Any reason not to?

I can't remember if I posted about it, but I did an autocross with the hoosier bmwcca. Unfortunately being active with them and their fb group leaves little room for festing. I do like what you've done with the place ken. Keep up the good work
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The new 97 m3 has been amazing. Not driving it in the winter sucks. It's been good to get some maintenance out of the way though. Did the CCV valve and cleaned the ICV. Also did VCG and plugs. Someone had put autolite crap in there. Cooling is coming up now. Not going top of the line everywhere, but definitely going with the stewart pump and probably z3m s54 radiator with the 3rd core. Any reason not to?
Z3m radiator still has the issue with the plastic end tanks, so it does not really offer anymore reliability than the stock rad. If you want a better radiator, go with something that is fully aluminium like the Mishimoto one. Also, Mishimoto recently came out with a aluminium expansion tank.
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Z3m radiator still has the issue with the plastic end tanks, so it does not really offer anymore reliability than the stock rad. If you want a better radiator, go with something that is fully aluminium like the Mishimoto one. Also, Mishimoto recently came out with a aluminium expansion tank.
I had the mishi before they had an expansion tank. I was satisfied with it for my 328is setup with the electric puller fan and shroud. However the fitment wasn't great (I had to use cables because the oem plastic clips wouldn't hold). If going all aluminum, I want to do it right. Zionsville, et. al. Isn't in the car budget yet with a wedding and honeymoon this fall.

I'm ok with oem-equiv issues (plastic tanks which need replaced after 5 years) if I'm paying oem-equiv prices.
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