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The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 08-14-2018, 04:37 PM
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Yellow fogs for '13 535xi -- live near Coast

Any great suggestions? We live near the Oregon Coast and man does it get foggy!!
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Old 08-14-2018, 06:29 PM
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Change the bulb out? What exactly are you asking?
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Old 08-14-2018, 08:48 PM
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I was hoping someone might recommend a great yellow bulb for the fogs. I mean REAL bright. They will only be used in the fog.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:25 PM
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Do you currently have Halogen, HID, or LED fog lights?


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Old 08-14-2018, 09:31 PM
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IDK.....crap, things have really changed since 2009

I had to order a manual for the car....

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Old 08-14-2018, 11:56 PM
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Since it's a 2013, it's probably standard halogen.
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Old 08-15-2018, 12:09 AM
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I believe you are correct.

So, I am hoping for a super bright yellow fog to replace the ones that are standard.
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:08 AM
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If its halogen, then you should look for an HID kit to convert it. Can snap a pic and upload it here if ya want us to confirm.

I dont know if you will find a “brighter” halogen as halogen doesnt change on the kelvin scale.


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Old 08-15-2018, 10:02 AM
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Kelvin scale refers to color. If the OP wants a yellow light, he would need to put in a yellow bulb or somehow tint the glass cover. Probably need a higher wattage bulb for a brighter light (assuming incandescent lights).
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:18 AM
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Kelvin scale refers to color. If the OP wants a yellow light, he would need to put in a yellow bulb or somehow tint the glass cover. Probably need a higher wattage bulb for a brighter light (assuming incandescent lights).
Sorry, I probably should have expanded on that. Since Halogen doesn't change on the Kelvin scale, getting a tint or "yellow" halogen (which is a regular halogen with yellow glass) would actually result in a lower amount of usable light. There is no Halogen that produces the desired 3000k.

However, he could convert to an HID kit that comes with 3000k bulbs. That would be pure yellow light.
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Here is the pic...I hope it helps.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:22 AM
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That helps, its halogen.

Are you wanting a drop in replacement or are you willing to do some very minor modification?
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:21 PM
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I want what works. This is like San Fransisco foggy here! If the kits work better, I'm all in.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:34 PM
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Looks like you bulb type is H8. But you can verify here: https://www.sylvania-automotive.com/apps/vlrg-us/Vlrg/

I believe they are 35w stock. https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=63_1213

https://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/UltraCanbusHID
35w,H8,3000k
This will give bright, very yellow, fog lights. 35w will not overheat the smaller housing.

Ive used DDM on many cars over the years. They are not the cheapest, but the quality has always held up. They were one of the first companies to release the slim digital ballasts.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:48 PM
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Fantastic. Thanks for the recommendation!

It looks like i'll be fitting the box somewhere....ha I'm sure I'll find room.

I hope they'll be brighter than the factory fogs.

I'll post some pics of the before and after...

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They should definitely be brighter but do understand that if the fog is extremely heavy, there is only so much any light can do. You should see a noticeable difference when driving. Can always install one at a time to do a quick comparison.

One other note, HID's "warm up", so you should avoid quickly flicking them on and then off (flashing). Warm up completes in 2-5 seconds.

I might convert mine later in the year, so I wouldnt mind some before, after, and comparison shots if you have time.
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Old 08-15-2018, 04:11 PM
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Thanks for the tips...

I will figure out where to put the parts and get some pics... May take a couple of weeks.
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Something no one is talking about that is relevant, US/state vehicle codes. Up until several years ago, when I last scanned that part of the CA VC, it is illegal to operate 'fog lights' w/o the low beam headlights also being illuminated. Since the low beams, are mounted high up on the grille (also mandated by NTHSB standards), the glare, reflection, and dazzle of those low beams render any fog lamps useless. Therefore, fog lamps are mere decoration and it doesn't really matter what mechanism drives them.
Back when one could still purchase wiring manuals for cars, I rewired my GMC S-15 SUV. Since the Hella fog lamps that I mounted under the bumper, were 12" above the ground, they qualified under both US & CA codes as proper mounted headlights. When I encountered real fog, where fog lights were advantageous, I turned my headlight switch to parking lights, and turned on a seperate switch to the fog lights. I figured if I were ever stopped, I'd point to the appropriate section of the VC, claim my fog lights were indeed my headlights, and those big bulbs up top, were my fog lights.
Alas, since then, 1 Lexus & 2 BMWs later, I have had my cars equipped with useless lighting that I never turned on.
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That must be a CA thing. WA and OR dont require headlight use unless its dark.
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That must be a CA thing. WA and OR dont require headlight use unless its dark.
I doubt this is CA specific feature - there is but one fog lights related coding option where fog lights and high beams can be turned together. Nowhere in the coding combinations do I see the way to make fog lights as a stand alone feature.

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Old 08-15-2018, 08:36 PM
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That would not surprise me at all. If one uses one's wipers, one must turn on the headlights in CA, during a rain storm. However, for people like myself, that realize that water runs off of windshields at speed, as long as I don't touch the wipers, I need not turn on my headlights.
We have the best legislators that money can buy in this state.
They are busy sucking up to Tesla. And it needs every bit of help:
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:58 AM
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Last time I did some research on yellow fog lights, all the data I could find showed no vision improvement over white lights. That was a surprise to me, but hey -

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Old 08-16-2018, 01:14 PM
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My '12 535 uses H11 (55W) bulbs. I replaced mine with yellow (3000K equiv) a long time ago, and have not looked back. I love the contrast between the stock white headlight and the yellow of the fog.

My wife's '14 335 uses H8 (35W) bulbs. I also installed yellow in hers. But for whatever reason, the '15year model housings i installed in hers has a very nice and defined cutoff line, with a wide dispersion pattern. Very easy to properly adjust. Where as my 535/H11 fog housing are not as well defined. :/

get on amazon, get a nice set of piaa yellows, and you will be happy. I wouldn't do a HID kid, as you will need a ballast, and that fog light location is barely behind a splash guard.
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:40 AM
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Back in my E39 I had a set of European "selective yellow" bulbs in the fog light housings. I really liked those. "Selective yellow" is like the low beams in France and is different than a yellow tinted film. When off, the bulbs have an iridescent/oily blue look. When on, the bulb looks mostly white, but the light cast is yellow.

Were I looking for non-white, I'd personally look for those again if I wanted to avoid a HID/LED conversion. I believe Philips packaged them under the "All Weather" product line at the time.
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