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Old 09-02-2019, 02:21 PM
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Fuel System Damage from Road Debris

Hit a piece of broken asphalt in my 2014 535 D. it hit something next the transmission and car immediately died. Limped to the side of the road and is dripping diesel from around the transmission. Further as the car was loaded with fault codes, the trans was stuck in park Only way to release is from under the car

Wondering what the rock hit in that area

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Old 09-02-2019, 02:42 PM
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:58 AM
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I had the same sort of thing happen to my 2014 535dx a few years ago. I was unable to avoid hitting a piece of a truck tire on the highway at night and in heavy traffic. The truck tire "alligator" ruptured the fuel tank and the car was dumping fuel on the highway. The car ran out of fuel about 20 minutes later. Fortunately I had the presence of mind to get over to the breakdown lane before the car died. It was a 4 hour ordeal getting help and getting the car picked up on a ramp truck and brought to my BMW dealer. I was unable to get the car out of Park so it could be pulled up onto the ramp truck. With the car in a puddle of diesel fuel and in the breakdown lane on a busy stretch of highway at night, there was no way the tow provider or myself was going to get under the car to crank on the bolt to manually shift the transmission out of Park and into Neutral. We searched online with our phones and were unable to find the magic shift procedure to shift the transmission to Neutral for 15 minutes to move the car.

The repair was $2200 to replace the fuel tank, all covered by insurance less my deductible. I also insisted on a fuel filter change given the fuel system was compromised. I had to pay for the FF change but I didn't want to take any chances.

Fast forward to about 2 months ago. I had another truck tire incident at night along the same stretch of highway. I was starting to slow down as I was entering a construction zone with a lane reduction coming up. I was paying attention to the traffic situation ahead of me when the truck tire piece came out of nowhere. I had no time to react. The auxiliary radiator, fog light, and brake vent ductwork on the passenger side got destroyed and the car was dumping coolant on the highway. I immediately got a low coolant warning and took the exit right before the construction zone. I stopped in a parking lot at a restaurant I'm very familiar with and called BMW Roadside Assistance. It was about an hour before the tow provider arrived so I went inside the restaurant and got some dinner while waiting for the tow. The repair bill was $1500, covered by insurance.

Had I been in my X5 35d instead of my 535dx, the car would have survived these two incidents without damage. The F10's low ground clearance makes it more vulnerable to damage from road debris.


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Old 09-03-2019, 05:21 AM
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An 'alligator' convinced me to get a Panzer Plate on my TDI.

I-95 heavy traffic way above the speed limit and I tried to change lanes to the right to slow down. Checked for clearance and started to change lanes and hit the alligator for $1200 body damage. I was towing a tiny bicycle trailer and saw it hop above the roofs of the adjacent cars.

Panzer Plate later saved many headaches.
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Thanks all for the input, open speaking not a fan these days of German Cars engineering/reliability. In over 40 years of driving and with wide range of German and US cars only German cars have left us stranded:

BMW 740 il Transimssion failure at 30k miles
Engine block replacement at 40k miles

Audi A8 Thermostat failure at 60k mile, caused overheating at end of a 600 mile trip

VW VR6 4 Motion Passat Two engine failure in 1st 6 months, left wife stranded both times

2013 X6 5.0,,, the known N63 engine issues and rebuilds
Car locked itself with keys and dog inside, kind of known BMW problem they ignore, people have had to break the glass to free trapped kids and pets

Given this most recent event wife if fully soured with German cars and expensive fixes beyond the warranty period. Our American cars, mostly Suburbans/Denalis etc have been stone cold reliable. Tend to keep those for 10 year and 150k miles.

You may laugh but just bought our daughter a used 2017 Dodge Journey and drove it to her in Nashville. Wife loved the ride, features, room ect. and her current ride is the X6 5.0 M sport

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Counterpoint

(Yeah, it's an old story about my first BMW, but it's still valid due to the engine placement.)

So, driving up Blewett Pass/US97; getting ready to pass a semi so sort of close. All of a sudden a 8" rock appears from underneath him, center of lane. It hits - SLAM - my E12 530i's undercarriage. Stop on the shoulder - no damage at all other than mark on the front suspension carrier. If it had been a US car, the oil pan would have been gone (all US cars have engine in front of brace.)

Debris is completly random. And fuel lines are as equally exposed on US cars as German.
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Old 09-03-2019, 01:29 PM
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Thanks all for the input, open speaking not a fan these days of German Cars engineering/reliability.
I've had the exact opposite experience. My 2012 X5 35d at only 225k miles and my 2014 535dx at only 128k miles are long term keepers and won't be for sale anytime soon. They have been too damn reliable, among other things I love about them. The two truck tire "alligator" incidents I had with my 535dx are not BMW's fault.

I posted about my last truck tire incident in the BMW Advanced Car Eye 2.0 thread in the F15 forum. I have the ACE 2.0 installed in my 535dx and love it. The front dashcam caught video of what I hit on the highway. The pic I posted is a screenshot of the video playback paused just before the hit.
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...77&postcount=4

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Thanks all for the input, open speaking not a fan these days of German Cars engineering/reliability. In over 40 years of driving and with wide range of German and US cars only German cars have left us stranded:

BMW 740 il Transimssion failure at 30k miles
Engine block replacement at 40k miles

Audi A8 Thermostat failure at 60k mile, caused overheating at end of a 600 mile trip

VW VR6 4 Motion Passat Two engine failure in 1st 6 months, left wife stranded both times

2013 X6 5.0,,, the known N63 engine issues and rebuilds
Car locked itself with keys and dog inside, kind of known BMW problem they ignore, people have had to break the glass to free trapped kids and pets

Given this most recent event wife if fully soured with German cars and expensive fixes beyond the warranty period. Our American cars, mostly Suburbans/Denalis etc have been stone cold reliable. Tend to keep those for 10 year and 150k miles.

You may laugh but just bought our daughter a used 2017 Dodge Journey and drove it to her in Nashville. Wife loved the ride, features, room ect. and her current ride is the X6 5.0 M sport
We actually had one as a vacation rental for 2 weeks, 2 years ago. It was surprisingly quiet, peppy, and in GT trim actually looked good. Fit and finish was good too.
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Turns out the rock hit the fuel filter, easy fix. My biggest grip is that the Park Release when vehicle will not run, is under a cover on the side of the transmission. There used to be a mechanical release under the cup holder, but to perhaps save $1.79, BMW removed it.

Thus, instead of 30 minute wait on the side of the road, had to get a wrecker that could lift the car on to a flatbed that took three hours.
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Glad to hear it wasn't more serious.
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Turns out the rock hit the fuel filter, easy fix. My biggest grip is that the Park Release when vehicle will not run, is under a cover on the side of the transmission. There used to be a mechanical release under the cup holder, but to perhaps save $1.79, BMW removed it.

Thus, instead of 30 minute wait on the side of the road, had to get a wrecker that could lift the car on to a flatbed that took three hours.
With XDrive models, the car essentially has to be dragged onto the ramp truck with all 4 wheels locked. That was the case with my 535dx during my first truck tire incident a few years ago. With the second incident about 2 months ago, the tow provider was able to drive the car onto the ramp truck.

The manual override for the BTSI was removed in 2011 models going forward when the mechanical link between the shift lever and the transmission was replaced by an electronic control for the shift lever. There is no longer a mechanical link between the shift lever and the transmission.

BTSI = Brake Transmission Shift Interlock, as defined in Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS).

I don't like this change and it was not to save $1.79.

The owner's manual should have clear instructions on how to override the BTSI when the car is inoperable so the car can be moved. I couldn't find any information in the owner's manual while stuck on the side of the road in a puddle of diesel in the breakdown lane on the highway with heavy traffic. I filled a complaint with NHTSA about it after my first incident a few years ago.

Fortunately I had the presence of mind to get over to the breakdown lane before the car died. I would have been screwed if the car ended up stopping in the middle of the (busy) highway. A cop would want to push the car with his car to get it off the highway and would do a lot of damage to the rear of the car. All 4 wheels are locked in this case (XDrive).

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Dave:

I believe the 6 and 8 Speeds at BMW have been shift by wire for many years not with no mechanical connection to the AT. The BTSI I think is the interlock where your foot needs to be on the brake to move they shifter out of park. Formerly the 5 series had the "Park Lock Release" Under the cup holder, with a special tool in the trunk tool kit to rotate a short cable to release mechanically the park pawl. Now the release mechanism is a screw on the side of the transmission, believe me three hours on the side of the road waiting made me an expert.

Tow Truck Driver #1 also was certain of the former release under the cup holder. Max, that contraption with the tool was perhaps $5

Not belaboring this, but an engine failure on a new BMW (dead battery, engine dies, run out of fuel, etc) will lock you in park without access to the underside of the car.

here is how it was done on earlier versions

2007 BMW https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...28B5&FORM=VIRE

2011 BWM to 2103 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...D7AB&FORM=VIRE

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If the starter / motor will spin and not start, then there is an electrical emergency release that I have posted before, and I'll try to find it again ...

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Home / BMW E70 X5 xDrive35d SAV / Repair Manuals and Technical Data / 24 Automatic transmission / 24 34 Shift valves, parking lock / 24 34 ... Unlock transmission lock electronically

>> The emergency release is only possible if the engine does not start and the starter is turning.
>> If the emergency release must be activated although the engine starts, the fuse for the electrical fuel pump may be pulled. [20 A F105 in A42 Rear Power Distribution Box]. [This is the first instance of fuse-pulling that I recall.]
>> The emergency release is active for 15 minutes.
>> As soon as a wheel speed signal is recorded, this period will be extended by another 15 minutes.
>> After this period of time, the transmission lock will be engaged without a message.
>> The chronological [timing] information depends on the battery capacity.

Important!

>> To operate the electronic emergency transmission release system the vehicle must not be towed but rather only pushed. [I believe this to mean 'handed'.]
>> In the case of misuse, a corresponding fault is entered in the fault memory.

Unlock transmission lock electronically

>> Switch the ignition on.
>> Apply the brake pedal and hold it down during the entire procedure.
>> Press start/stop button.
>> The starting operation may last for some seconds in low ambient temperatures and for diesel engines.
>> As soon as the starter motor can be heard to operate
>> Press and hold down the [EGS] release button (1) [in the image]
>> The specified time must necessarily be complied with!
>> Push selector lever (2) forward up to point of resistance [as though shifting to Neutral, NOT Reverse] and hold for 2 seconds.
>> Release the selector lever and quickly move it forward by another level [step above] again.
>> The selector lever position N is displayed in the instrument cluster.
>> The transmission lock is now electronically unlocked.

>> Release the brake pedal after the transmission lock has been successfully unlocked.
>> Leave the ignition switched on in order to subsequently move the vehicle.
>> The transmission automatically shifts into P when the ignition is turned off.

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...-lock/ETzfShqL
Elsewhere in NewTIS it is noted that March 2010 is the cut off for a mechanical connection between EGS and AT, and for build dates before April 2010 one should check in the cup holder any way.
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If the starter / motor will spin and not start, then there is an electrical emergency release that I have posted before, and I'll try to find it again ...
The tow provider and I were frantically searching for that document on our smartphones and were unable to find it. I have that document now and keep a paper copy it in both cars.


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Dave:

I believe the 6 and 8 Speeds at BMW have been shift by wire for many years not with no mechanical connection to the AT. The BTSI I think is the interlock where your foot needs to be on the brake to move they shifter out of park. Formerly the 5 series had the "Park Lock Release" Under the cup holder, with a special tool in the trunk tool kit to rotate a short cable to release mechanically the park pawl. Now the release mechanism is a screw on the side of the transmission, believe me three hours on the side of the road waiting made me an expert.

Tow Truck Driver #1 also was certain of the former release under the cup holder. Max, that contraption with the tool was perhaps $5

Not belaboring this, but an engine failure on a new BMW (dead battery, engine dies, run out of fuel, etc) will lock you in park without access to the underside of the car.

here is how it was done on earlier versions

2007 BMW https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...28B5&FORM=VIRE

2011 BWM to 2103 https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...D7AB&FORM=VIRE
On my 2014 535dx, there is no cover to pull up under the cupholder. That was the first thing we looked for. There also was no transmission unlock tool in the trunk. There was a place to store an unlock tool but no tool.

It is definitely SBW (shift by wire) in my 535dx.

It was a 4 hour ordeal for me with the car in a puddle of diesel in a narrow breakdown lane on the highway at night with heavy traffic. There was no way either of us was going to work on jacking the car up and crawl under the car in a puddle of diesel next to heavy fast moving traffic to crank on the bolt to release the transmission from Park. I filed a complaint with NHTSA after the ordeal. I didn't get much sleep that night.

My second truck tire incident 2 months ago was a lot less stressful. I was able to get off the highway and get to the parking lot at a restaurant I'm familiar with. The tow provider was able to drive the car onto the ramp truck.




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The tow provider and I were frantically searching for that document on our smartphones and were unable to find it. I have that document now and keep a paper copy it in both cars.
#MeTOO

Another hint; donít store the tow eye in the boot under mountains of baggage. Itís in the bottom of the glove box now, and, as soon as the snow falls, Iíll put it in the front bumper.
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Another hint; donít store the tow eye in the boot under mountains of baggage. Itís in the bottom of the glove box now, and, as soon as the snow falls, Iíll put it in the front bumper.
We found the tow eye without any problem. It is stored in a holder on the trunk lid where a transmission unlock tool used to be stored. All we were missing was the magic shift procedure needed to shift the car from Park to Neutral.

Pulling the car onto the ramp truck was also challenging. The tow eye screws into the front bumper off-center and this causes the rear of the car to drag towards the guardrail on the highway. The rear tires were on skids. To help out, I suggested the tow operator pull the ramp truck forward a few feet while pulling the car to help straighten it out and get away from the guardrail. This did help. It took over an hour to get the car onto the ramp truck. The tow operator worked HARD to get the car onto the ramp truck and without a scratch. He did an excellent job.


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This is exactly the stupid crap that causes more issues on the roads. They get rid of this mechanical N switch and when people have issues on the highway they can't even get off the road. I'm surprised this is acceptable by nhsta, because it's really dangerous.

F bmw and others that do this crap to save a few bucks at the cost of safety.
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when the truck tire piece came out of nowhere. I had no time to react. lk
I was in my E39 M5 years ago...at night...in the rain..on a section if I80 that was elevated about 120 ft above grade crossing the Sacto river....when a pickup truck lost a bedliner that wasnt attached.... just flipped out at 60 mph

I thought I saw something in the blackness a split second before it took out the front of the car under the headlights. Massive damage. over 9k, headlights and hood fine.

Oh, my front wheels got up onto the liner, and we turned into a toboggan for 100 ft or so. Clenchy.


FWIW, one tip:

If an item is lost off another car AND HITS YOUR CAR it is covered under Comprehensive (not a chargeable event). If it lands and THEN you hit it, it is Collision, chargeable to your record.

Keep it in mind, if one is ever facing such a question....
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Two, or is it three, years ago I had a RFT flat out in the Ashepoo, Combahee, Edisto Rivers basin (wilderness) and drove as far as I dared to where the flatbed could find me. The recovery driver understood my concerns with his big steel hooks on my aluminum suspension, but the tow eye was buried under two months of baggage. He drove the X5 onto his flat bed.

And I resolved to not get tricked unprepared like that again. The tow eye lives in the glove box with the owners manual. There is nothing else in the glove box.

Folks denigrate recovery drivers. This guy was relatively brilliant, well spoken, concerned for the well being of his clients and my vehicle. His vehicle was immaculate. He did drive us through the Cadillac dealership's yard "inadvertently." If there was a cost, I did not write the check. I did pay for two new tires.
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Scepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and it is shameful to surrender it too soon or to the first comer: there is nobility in preserving it coolly and proudly through long youth, until at last, in the ripeness of instinct and discretion, it can be safely exchanged for fidelity and happiness.
(The Works of George Santayana p. 65)

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