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Old 11-18-2013, 09:49 AM
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'96 Z3 Roadste rubber trim question

Took my recently acquired '96 Roadster out on the interstate yesterday.
After 60 miles at 75 mph I discovered the rubber trim piece that fits to the rear deck above the trunk and below the cloth top had blown loose and was halfway off the car.

Is there supposed to be some sort of clips on each end of this rubber trim piece?

I think it might be part number 51718401844 called a "covering cap: on the parts list

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Al in NC
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:00 PM
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You are correct. The plastic clips at each end of the tube-shaped rubber trim are the covering caps, and that is the right part number.
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:46 AM
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Thanks for the confirmation, Blacklane. I wasn't sure I was looking at the correct drawing.
I'll order a couple and maybe that will solve the problem.

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Old 12-19-2013, 12:24 PM
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O. K., the plastic clips I ordered came in (pricey little devils) but I'm not sure how they fit.

Does the "long" side of the clip go on the outside of the car?

I tried both ways and neither seemed to secure the ends of the rubber "tube" trim sufficiently.
Maybe the 17 year old rubber tube trim need replacing?
I do have some gummi pflege I could try to reconditon the rubber.
Suggestions?

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Al
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:42 PM
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I believe the long part of the clip goes to the ragtop side, which is the flatter side. You may want to replace the rubber trim with newer stuff, and you may want to add a drop of silicone adhesive to the ends.
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Old 12-24-2013, 02:06 PM
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Thanks for the reply, Blacklane. I'll take your suggestion and order the new trim piece, which I believe is PN 51718397931

Item 11 seen here

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...94&hg=54&fg=10

Does that look right to you?

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Old 12-24-2013, 02:23 PM
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Yep. I don't think it usually costs that much though. I recommend using BMW of South Atlanta's website for you in North Carolina.
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Old 01-16-2014, 10:27 AM
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Well, I got the new rubber strip (gasket?) and it does fit somewhat tighter than the 17 year old original piece.

Still not sure about the orientation of the clips. I tried both ways and it is not too secure either way. Can someone look at the attached picture and compare it to their car?

I put it on this way because it seemed to better fit the profile of the rubber trim.

Comments?

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Al
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... not sure about the orientation of the clips. I tried both ways and it is not too secure either way. Can someone look at the attached picture and compare it to their car?...
I think you need to tuck the gasket into the body. Then the end clip goes like this:
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:35 PM
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Vintage,
Now I'm really confused. I thought I had the rubber trim fully seated.
Could it be I have installed it bass-ackwards?
I put it on like the old one was installed, but the car had a top replacement done at some time in the past so now I'm not sure it was installed the right way to start with.

The pic you sent seemed to show the longest part of the trim inside, between the body and the top. I installed it with the long side on the outside of the body.

Do I have it reversed??
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:17 PM
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The "C" part of the rubber trim goes on the Sealing Frame, which looks like a band of heavy plastic between the top and the body. That makes the "bulb" part of the trim fill the gap between the body and the top. The job is easier with the top down.
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Old 01-17-2014, 04:42 AM
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... I put it on like the old one was installed, but the car had a top replacement done at some time in the past so now I'm not sure it was installed the right way to start with...
It appears that the top shop installed the rubber trim and the end clips wrong, which is why the clips came off and the the trim came loose.
Edit: Correction, the shop apparently lost the end clips.

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Old 01-17-2014, 05:25 AM
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Thanks to Vintage and Blacklane for the help.
Just to be clear, the rubber trim does NOT grip to the painted edge of the body work, but grips to the sealing frame? I'll put the top down to get a get a better look and try to re-install correctly.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:45 AM
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Thanks to Vintage and Blacklane for the help.
Just to be clear, the rubber trim does NOT grip to the painted edge of the body work, but grips to the sealing frame? I'll put the top down to get a get a better look and try to re-install correctly.
Alfre
That is correct, it fits under the painted sheetmetal. Here is a link to a top replacement that may help.

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=665407
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Old 01-20-2014, 03:01 PM
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Thanks to Blacklane, Vintage and Bob2.8 for the help. Especially the tip about installing with the top down.
Made it much easier. Without this forum I'd have never known the proper mounting for the rubber trim.
Mission accomplished!
Al
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