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Old 10-29-2019, 05:22 AM
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2016 F31 blown transmission!!!

I have a 2016 3 series wagon. I bought new in January 2016. Drove it a lot and it now has 71000 miles on it. The transmission has been slipping a bit lately. This morning it slips and then the warning signals come on saying drive moderately and see dealership for service. It wont idle lower than 1000 rpm's. Needless to say, Im not happy. WTF! Im 40 and never had any transmission troubles with any car. All service was done appropriately. Im pretty sure Im screwed but just wanted to see if anyone had any advice.
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Old 10-29-2019, 05:39 AM
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I made it to work, parked it. Restarted and the idling went down and the warning went off I think but this is probably just wishful thinking. Im sure ill get on the road and it will be jacked.
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Old 10-29-2019, 05:56 AM
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NYC area, sticker 53 and change, I dont trust any dealership or other shops.
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Old 10-29-2019, 06:27 AM
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NYC area, sticker 53 and change, I dont trust any dealership or other shops.
Based on this statement, I guess you are just going to park your car and leave it? You need a diagnosis; not just guesses from readers of this forum. If you don't want to use a dealer, ask for recommendations for an independent shop. One source is bimrs.org.
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Old 10-29-2019, 06:39 AM
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Based on this statement, I guess you are just going to park your car and leave it? You need a diagnosis; not just guesses from readers of this forum. If you don't want to use a dealer, ask for recommendations for an independent shop. One source is bimrs.org.
good point. haha im just frustrated so making stupid statements
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Old 10-29-2019, 07:36 AM
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good point. haha im just frustrated so making stupid statements


ZF8 is arguably most reliable transmission on the market now. You need to diagnose exactly what is the problem. Transmission can fail, but do not assume it is. Assumption is mother of all screw ups.


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Old 10-29-2019, 09:49 AM
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ZF8 is arguably most reliable transmission on the market now. You need to diagnose exactly what is the problem. Transmission can fail, but do not assume it is. Assumption is mother of all screw ups.


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seems to be ok now. only moved it a few feet as I dont want to lose my parking spot. strange
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Old 10-29-2019, 11:23 AM
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Mechanical things never fix themselves, so you'll want this fixed.

At the same time, you want the problem to present itself to the mechanic. The worst thing for a mechanic to diagnose is an intermittent problem when everything is working fine.
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Old 10-29-2019, 11:31 AM
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NYC area, sticker 53 and change, I dont trust any dealership or other shops.
Pretty much any dealership will want to replace the transmission. That will definitely fix the problem, so I don't know why you wouldn't trust them (it's a silly statement - dealers know these cars better than anyone.) However, it's silly to replace the transmission...

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seems to be ok now. only moved it a few feet as I dont want to lose my parking spot. strange
You need to discover if there's anything wrong that actually CAN be fixed, first of all.
2nd of all, change the fluid (with a flush). The tranny has failed, you can't make it worse by changing the fluid, and it may fix the problem ($500 is way cheaper than a new tranny.)
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Old 10-29-2019, 02:31 PM
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Have the OP actually established the trouble is with the transmission? So far, I am seeing "it's been slipping a bit", then "fast idle and lots of warning symbols" then "idling fine but don't want to lose my parking spot." At the very least, have you pulled the codes?

(In olden days I also would have asked "have you checked the transmission fluid level?" but I'm not even sure how one would do this in an era of "lifetime fills.")
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Old 10-29-2019, 06:07 PM
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left work and the warning was off

As I said, this morning it read "drivetrain malfunction. drive moderately and see service center" Idle was pretty high, above 1000 which is not normal

transmission felt very strange on 25 mile ride home but seemed to relax a bit this evening. I don't know what to do.
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Old 10-29-2019, 08:33 PM
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What you need to do is go to a dealer and have them check for codes. Do this ASAP. What are you waiting for?
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:57 AM
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parked it

driving my other car

is the dealership my only option? I really hate everything about that place
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Old 10-30-2019, 08:05 AM
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NYC area, sticker 53 and change, I dont trust any dealership or other shops.
so if you dont trust the dealer or other shops, your only real option is 5 gallons of petrol and a road flare; there's no real diy fix for this, especially since you dont want to bring it to even a shop for diagnosis.

if you are willing to bring it to a shop, you'll need to find a bmw independant mechanic with the equipment to read bmw codes, not just a random garage with an OBD2 scanner.

i would just bring it to the dealer, ask for a diag and go from there. you dont have to have the work done at the dealer. they will probably be the best place to get the diagnosis done.
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Old 10-30-2019, 09:44 AM
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parked it

driving my other car

is the dealership my only option? I really hate everything about that place
You have to find a BMW mechanic to read rhe codes and diagnose the cause. That mechanic can be at a dealer or independent shop. With all the BMW's on the road in NYC surely there is someone in the area. What is wrong with the dealer?

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Old 10-30-2019, 10:25 AM
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parked it

driving my other car

is the dealership my only option? I really hate everything about that place
It looks like your car is out of new car warranty, so do seek out trusted local independent BMW mechanics, some probably will run out code for free and give some clues what goes wrong.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:50 AM
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parked it

driving my other car

is the dealership my only option? I really hate everything about that place
Many specialized BMW and German car shops have the equipment to read the codes. So that can be an alternative.
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Old 10-30-2019, 03:44 PM
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You can always get an OBD-II adapter and run some diagnostic tests to see what type of codes its throwing so at least you have an idea of whats really wrong so when you go to the mechanic/dealer you know what your getting yourself into.

You said your from New York. I'm sure there are some trustworthy independent shops in your area that can work on it or at least point you in the right direction. You will definitely save money if you go this route. You just need to do your homework by going online and checking out the indy shops reviews.

Unless you have some serious skills, equipment, and tools this type of job is not recommended for DIY.
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Old 11-02-2019, 06:12 AM
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Can anyone explain the process of me reading the codes myself?
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Old 11-02-2019, 10:44 PM
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Can anyone explain the process of me reading the codes myself?
This is a good video:
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:59 AM
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This is a good video:
thanks so much

looks like its my low pressure fuel sensor codes 11A031 11A032 11A002

anybody know a reasonable price to fix this
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:36 AM
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What model year is your F3*? What are production date and mileage?
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:47 AM
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BMWNA has extended limited warranty for low pressure fuel pump (LPFP) 10 years/unlimited miles, the low pressure fuel sensor is integrated into LPFP so it should be covered too(or your new car warranty 4 years/50k miles should work too).

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Old 11-05-2019, 12:25 PM
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BMWNA has extended limited warranty for low pressure fuel pump (LPFP) 10 years/unlimited miles, the low pressure fuel sensor is integrated into LPFP so it should be covered too(or your new car warranty 4 years/50k miles should work too).
called BMWNA they said there is no extended warranty for my car 2016 f31

i have 71000 miles

he sounded unsure, saying he was looking in different areas but couldnt find anyhting?
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Old 11-05-2019, 12:58 PM
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called BMWNA they said there is no extended warranty for my car 2016 f31

i have 71000 miles

he sounded unsure, saying he was looking in different areas but couldnt find anyhting?
Is yours a B48 engine, or N20/N26? The ELW is on N20/N26 LPFP.

One option is to input 17-digit VIN in bmw-rp.com and check.
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