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Old 10-13-2019, 08:07 PM
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those of us that live in the rust belt ,do you put your car up when the snow flies or do you drive your car all year?I will put my car into storage soon .
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Old 10-13-2019, 08:31 PM
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I live in sw Ohio...I have never "put up" my car for the winter per se...I do garage it and and keep it on a battery tender..full disclosure..I do not drive it as much..however..during that period from December through March..there are typically 15/20 days when the temps are above freezing and weather conditions are clear..I take full advantage of those days by taking the car out for a lengthy drive..good for me..good for the car..

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Old 10-14-2019, 06:08 AM
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I will be facing my first winter-over in Pennsylvania since I purchased my '99 Z3 in August. I don't have a garage to keep it in but have just used a car cover on other "summer" cars in the past. The battery in the trunk gives me hesitation about using a trickle charger. Is it best to hook one up the the battery terminals in the trunk or hook it up under the hood to the positive terminal and find a good ground??
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Old 10-14-2019, 06:33 AM
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If you have underhood charging points then there is likely a provided ground terminal point near by. If you have an advanced charging system - IBS & AGM battery - then it is mandatory that the underhood charging points are used to allow the IBS-ECU to track the accumulated charge.

A trickle charger will ONLY maintain an already fully charged battery. Better to obtain a proper battery charger with a maintenance mode and use it in accordance with the manual.
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Old 10-14-2019, 07:02 AM
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Thanks for your response. I have no idea what kind of battery or charging system is in my car. I know the previous owner put a new battery in shortly before I bought it.. My car is kept outside so it's hard to use a normal charger because of the snow and rain. I purchased a Noco Genius G1100 smart charger a few years back primarily because it could be used outdoors and it had a quick disconnect system on it so I could just unplug it when I wanted to drive the car. My motorcycle and lawn tractor use the standard Battery Buddy tenders but they're kept out of the weather in our shed. I've never had any trouble with the Battery Buddy units but not sure yet about the Genius smart charge??

So I'm still not clear (unsure) of hooking it up directly to the battery or should I use the under-hood terminals. I believe that the manual suggests using the under-hood terminals to jump start the care if I'm remembering correctly.
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Old 10-14-2019, 11:18 AM
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My 2000 Z3 purchased in 2017 had 33k miles with no apparent rust. I stored it from end of November until I was sure it would not snow again (Chicago winters) and that we had a good rain to wash away the residual salt. Removed the battery and connected it to a trickle charger, and over-inflated the tires to max pressure on the side wall to keep them from flat spotting.

This year, in July, I drove it to Scottsdale AZ and will keep it here, solving the winter driving and storage issue.
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Old 10-14-2019, 04:19 PM
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Roger..I have always hooked up my Battery Tender directly to the battery in the trunk..have been doing this for years. I find it is easier and less complicated to access the trunk. I simply "permanently" hooked up one end of the BT wiring to the battery so I can open the trunk and plug in the BT wiring from the wall outlet.
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:22 PM
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Roger..I have always hooked up my Battery Tender directly to the battery in the trunk..have been doing this for years. I find it is easier and less complicated to access the trunk. I simply "permanently" hooked up one end of the BT wiring to the battery so I can open the trunk and plug in the BT wiring from the wall outlet.
Thanks, That's what I was asking about.

BTW: My radio is still working fine...
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Old 10-14-2019, 05:27 PM
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... The battery in the trunk gives me hesitation about using a trickle charger. Is it best to hook one up the the battery terminals in the trunk or hook it up under the hood to the positive terminal and find a good ground?? ...
Do not get a simple trickle charger. Get an intelligent chipped battery tender like:
Good
https://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tende...e%2C147&sr=1-6
Better if available
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006G14FK8...roduct_details

No need to mess around making connections on the battery in the trunk. Just put the tender's clamps on the two terminals provided under the hood for charging or jump starting. The positive is in a red Plus + box in the open electronics area behind the passenger strut. The negative is a big nut on the strut top that serves no purpose but to be a terminal.
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Old 10-14-2019, 10:05 PM
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Basically agree with your logic Vintage...but I find it so much easier to open the trunk lid than the huge front hood on a somewhat repetitive basis and connecting to the
rear battery is a piece of cake..call me lazy....chuckle...
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:46 AM
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... I find it so much easier to open the trunk lid than the huge front hood on a somewhat repetitive basis...
The tender stays on the battery for weeks at a time between drives, so the hood is not opened very often. And it is not latched down, but just laid down gently. Making it easy to raise for quick forum pictures now and then ;-)

I open the trunk as rarely as possible, and raise it as low as possible, out of concern for the harness wiring issue.

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Old 10-15-2019, 09:26 AM
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As usual Vintage..I respect your final word..
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:09 PM
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At one time I had three vintage BMW motorcycles with pigtails fitted to their batteries for charging. Pigtails are great, but the external underhood terminals on Z3 just seem easier.
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