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Old 10-18-2019, 12:07 PM
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Shorten interior lights stay on time

I have a new 2020 BMW X3 M40i and after I shutdown my car and close the driver door I noticed that my dashboard cluster lights (speed-RPM LCD indicator cluster and the GPS/Entertainment LCD cluster lights) plus the Ambient Lighting (dash + all doors) stay on for a long time till they go off. Both front LCD clusters stay on for about 20 minutes, and all Ambient Lighting for about 30 minutes.
I called BMW Genius Dept at 844-443-6487 and asked if there is a way to shorten these very long times, and was told no, there is no available option to shorten these times.
The only option I was advised to do was to click on the BMW logo button on my FOB to completely turn off everything and this of course locks all doors as well.
Does anyone here know if I can shorten my car's lights stay on times?
This is not what I expected from BMW, the long times does shorten our battery lives.
None of my other cars, which include new models from Mercedes, Lexus and Corvette behave like this.
Thank you and hope to hear encouraging news here.
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:07 PM
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The shut-down time might seem long (it is longer than in days past) but most of the visible signs you've referred to are LEDs and their drain on the car's battery (or batteries) is minimal. It also helps facilitate the orderly shut-down of complex electronic systems.

If you're concerned or the "on" status bothers you ... use CA (or your fob) to lock up and speed up the shut-down.
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Old 10-18-2019, 04:24 PM
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As I originally wrote I am now using my FOB to lock my car and by doing this it also shuts down all electronics displays and lights.
If I do find any updates to this issue I will share them here with you all.

PS: Anyone know how long is the auto shutdown with the two cigarette lighter sockets in this car?
One is just at the front of the center console, and the second one is on the right wall in the rear hatch. Both of these outlets are unswitched, they stay live after shutdown for a certain period.
I tried using my CTEK battery tender but these two outlets do shutdown automatically after a certain time so the CTEK stops functioning.

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Old 10-18-2019, 05:46 PM
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When I turn off either of our '19 BMW's I shut off the ignition, press "Option" then press "Turn off vehicle". This shuts down everything with no need to lock the car or let things shut down after a period. The Genius showed us this when we picked up our 5 Series.
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:53 PM
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^ oh... must try
normally I just hit the remote or touch/lock via the door/outside
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Old 10-18-2019, 07:39 PM
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Hi BobinIl, thanks for your helpful suggestion and I will try your tip.
Funny thing is earlier today I called the Genius Team, both at BMW and my dealer, and neither suggested your tip.
I guess it matters a lot who you talk to as there are Geniuses, or should I say genii, and there are real Geniuses.
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:20 AM
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It took me a while to get used to this routine but does work pretty well.
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Hi BobinIl, thanks for your helpful suggestion and I will try your tip.
Funny thing is earlier today I called the Genius Team, both at BMW and my dealer, and neither suggested your tip.
I guess it matters a lot who you talk to as there are Geniuses, or should I say genii, and there are real Geniuses.
Many times I have found that most of the so called BMW genius personnel don't know much at all.
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:53 PM
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Hi BobsM3Coupe, I agree with completely.
I have called BMW on several occasions before and after my new X3 purchase and I too have not been impressed by their knowledge and help, many times they were no help at all. They were nice and polite but I really expected a lot more technical knowledge and know how by the so called BMW "Genius" department.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:04 PM
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PS: Anyone know how long is the auto shutdown with the two cigarette lighter sockets in this car?
One is just at the front of the center console, and the second one is on the right wall in the rear hatch. Both of these outlets are unswitched, they stay live after shutdown for a certain period.
I tried using my CTEK battery tender but these two outlets do shutdown automatically after a certain time so the CTEK stops functioning.
If you don't lock the car the sockets should be disconnected 12 minutes after you turn off the car.
Battery tenders should be connected to the charging points in the engine bay.
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:16 PM
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Thanks Markst, that was good and helpful info.
That is what I did, connected my CTEK to the battery terminals in the engine bay (located on the passenger side). My Mercedes GLE43 AMG has the same type of battery terminals in the engine bay as it also has the battery in the rear of the car. Unusual that all my 3 cars have their battery in the rear of the car, I think many manufacturers are designing them like this now to keep the weight of the car better balanced and also to prevent the engine heat from harming and shortening the life of the battery.
I wrongly guessed that the interior lighter sockets in my X3 will stay on all the time without hibernating like my C7 Corvette's lighter socket in the trunk, which was specially designed to be unswitched all the time for the battery charging/maintenance purposes which I use when needed.
I wish BMW would design the rear socket to stay live all the time like the C7 Corvette's rear socket.
But now I know how to properly connect my CTEK. Luckily I do have both type of connectors for my CTEK, the lighter socket adapter and the alligator type connectors which I need for the front engine bay battery connectors.
Thanks again for your tip, I do appreciate it.

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Old 10-20-2019, 11:21 AM
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My Option button is going to wear out!! It does work!
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:25 PM
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Answer

All u have to do is press on the radio volume button after shutting off the motor. It will turn all off
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:10 PM
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Did that earlier too. Trying to compare if it's the same or just the radio lol
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:30 PM
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Donít understand

The radio button cure actually came from their Geek squad. It is used in many models of BMW because they all have the same issue. BMW has a major problem putting out vehicles that work consistently especially in the area of electronics. They have poor quality testing as evidenced by the number of recalls and campaigns( software updates). Basically they use they use their customers tonAssurance Test their cars to discover common bugs and then fix them, sometimes. Be happy if that is your only issue. I always just lock my doors and everything shuts off. Simple and with comfort access itís easy. Donít wrack your brain trying to logically figure things out.
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Old 10-21-2019, 04:58 AM
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Check to make sure you have the "turn off after door opening" option set in iDrive (in the Doors/Key section)

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Old 10-21-2019, 07:35 AM
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Thanks u080570 , this was already checked and I was advised to wait a couple of seconds before opening the door to make sure this option will work.

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Old 10-21-2019, 07:51 AM
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OP I think I can help. I was frustrated with the same issue. The vehicle shut down routine makes all the difference. Try this:
1. Put vehicle into park
2. Press on/off button with foot off brake (must not press brake here- critical) or car thinks you want to restart engine
3. You'll notice your tach indicator moved to 'Ready'
4. At this point (before pulling door handle) hit the on/off button one more time (with foot off brake) and you'll notice everything shuts off (running lights, radio, ambient, nav screen)
5. Exit vehicle and you'll notice everything is off

The other alternative(s) if you fail to follow this silly process is to do a long press on the radio on/off button or when exiting just lock the vehicle at which point everything will shut off.

My annoyance with BMW is they've made the absolute simplest thing overly complicated and unintuitive for no higher purpose.
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That doesnít work either

Of course the shut off after open door box is checked. All that does is turn off the engine. Someday people wil, wake up to how bad these cars are and unless you are going to track them, Audi is a much better choice. The Company wonít change because itís brand is like Apple. People buy or probably lease them just to say they have one. Ever try to install an update on an Apple device?
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:07 AM
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Thanks Jen4BMW, and I agree with you that BMW needs to simply this procedure. I have never had any issues with previous and existing models like Honda, Corvette, Lexus and Mercedes Benz.
Why does BMW needlessly complicates things? I wish they will adapt the KISS formula, and the sooner they do the better for all of us...BMW owners.
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:13 AM
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Of course the shut off after open door box is checked. All that does is turn off the engine. Someday people wil, wake up to how bad these cars are and unless you are going to track them, Audi is a much better choice. The Company won't change because it's brand is like Apple. People buy or probably lease them just to say they have one. Ever try to install an update on an Apple device?
Why do you have a BMW if you dislike them so much ?

Btw, Ive never had any issues installing updates on my Apple devices

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I can only speak for myself but I didn't specifically say I hate BMW or for that matter hate my X3. I said BMW has a proclivity for making easy things complicated, to paraphrase. This forum isn't just for sharing "likes" but I digress.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:10 AM
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I can only speak for myself but I didn't specifically say I hate BMW or for that matter hate my X3. I said BMW has a proclivity for making easy things complicated, to paraphrase. This forum isn't just for sharing "likes" but I digress.
My reply wasn't to you - it was to StansX5 and his "Someday people wil, wake up to how bad these cars are..." post...

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Sorry, I stand corrected. I was like...what did I say that was so anti BMW. My user name pretty much says it all in terms o where I stand with BMW. Theyíre great vehicle with loads of brand panache, performance and quality albeit sometimes over engineered/complicated needlessly. Volvo is a great example of being overly complicated. The thought of navigating an on screen menu just to adjust cabin temp and fan speed is craziness. Just saying...
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Of course the shut off after open door box is checked. All that does is turn off the engine. Someday people wil, wake up to how bad these cars are and unless you are going to track them, Audi is a much better choice. The Company wonít change because itís brand is like Apple. People buy or probably lease them just to say they have one. Ever try to install an update on an Apple device?
You hit it on the head, buddy. One of these days, I'm going to realize how bad these cars are, and quit buying them.

One of these days...
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