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The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 04-06-2017, 09:24 AM
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@Newsboy99 - Please see my post above. It's not run flats that are the problem. It's the really bad 19" Goodyear LS2's that were delivered with the F10. I note that the few G30s that I've seen have 19" Continental RFT's. Maybe BMW realized their mistake.
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Old 04-06-2017, 12:46 PM
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What are people doing for spare tire when going to non RFT?
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Old 04-07-2017, 01:20 PM
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What are people doing for spare tire when going to non RFT?
Hi,

Just go to this website and buy a kit: http://www.bimmerzone.com/BMW_Perfor...T-F10-KIT.html

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Old 04-09-2017, 04:34 PM
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Sudden catastrophic RFT failure

So my 2013 Active Hybrid 5 was sitting in my driveway today when we heard a loud bang and a hiss. One of the RFTs is flat and will not hold air. I can't see any damage but it could be hidden from view. The tire has just over 20k miles on it but still appears to have a good amount of tread on it.
Anyone ever heard of this happening?
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Old 04-09-2017, 06:56 PM
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Hi,

Just go to this website and buy a kit: http://www.bimmerzone.com/BMW_Perfor...T-F10-KIT.html

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That only works for a puncture, most likely only in the band of the tread. Sidewalls flex way too much, to hold a seal from goo, patch, or plug. So, out in the middle of nowhere, after running over a jagged piece of metal, your tire kit is a useless as your 3 tired car, at that point.

When I wear down my dealer fresh RFT, I intend to not only have the kit for everyday carry, but also a space saver, for trips outside of cell phone range.
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Old 04-09-2017, 07:26 PM
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You understand my tire just blew out while the car was parked in the driveway and I was inside watching tv? I'm in the Bahamas and the only explanation I can think of is that today was the first really hot day of the year. Why else would the tire just go bang?
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:54 AM
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Update. The only tires of the right size I could find locally were a set of Cooper CS5s. Cost $1300 here in The Bahamas and they wouldn't have been my first choice but I needed a set of tires urgently. Whatever. It's like night and day compared to the RFTs. Everything seems to have smoothed out, road noise is vastly reduced and handling is noticeably better. For now, I just put a couple of fix-a-flats in the trunk, but I guess at some point I'll get the donut kit from Bimmerzone. I've had the car for about 8 months now and it hasn't exactly been a love affair for me, mostly because of the weird a/c (nice cold air coming from the vents, but also a [I]hot [I]breeze coming from.... somewhere), ****ty sound system and hard ride. The new tires have at least made me love the car a little more.
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Old 04-12-2017, 08:13 PM
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Ditch the Eagle Runflats

After having two sidewall failures in as many weeks on my new (to me) 2015 640i Gran Coupe Xdrive with the 19" Type 351 wheels, I called Goodyear for help, after reading a post here that they warranted the tires for 6 years. The woman I spoke with was helpful, and said she was familiar with this issue, acknowledged the 6 year warranty and issued me a claim number. When I brought the car into the local authorized tire dealer she recommended, (Sullivan Tire) they measured the damaged tire at 8/32" and called Goodyear for the warranty claim. Whoever they reached told the tire guy they would not cover the claim due to the tire wear and that road hazards were not covered. Long story short, I decided to ditch the runflats and bought a set of Cont. ExtremeContact DWS06's (Not from Sullivan Tire, who refused to sell them to me as they were not the OE tires!) which seem to ride SO much better. Just to be safe I bought the 3 year road hazard insurance as well. Kudos to Town Fair Tire in Plaistow NH for their great service and pricing.

What was BMW thinking putting these fragile, poor handling, turds of a tire on such great cars???

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Old 04-12-2017, 08:27 PM
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What was BMW thinking putting these fragile, poor handling, turds of a tire on such great cars???
Some middle level marketing/business manager was thinking he could save $2 or $3 per car, at 10K cars per year. Then he'd be so admired by his superiors, they'd give him a bigger option grant at year end.
Customers? What are they?
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:07 PM
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I am ditching my dealer installed 19" Goodyear Insurance RF's on my 2014 535i XDrive M Sport.
If I install 245/45RY19 (front) and 275/40Y19 rear
PILOT SPORT A/S 3+ (W- OR Y-SPEED RATED)
Will I have any rubbing issues. Suspension is completely stock. I apologize if this has been covered but this is a long a$$ post.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:28 AM
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My opinion is that you don't want tires with different characteristics on the front and the rear. You will have different footprints and may have different circumferences. This will probably drive your X-drive crazy and lead to early failure. I believe that's why BMW does not offer staggered wheels as an option on X-drives.
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Old 06-17-2017, 02:39 PM
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Why not stick with known tire size combinations that are known for this vehicle? Also, with X-drive, the need for larger tire contact footprints is greatly reduced.
Are your stock wheels wider on the back?
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:19 PM
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The rear are wider. Going to a taller tire will yield a better ride and more protection for the wheels. The total diameter for front and rear will be 27.7.
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Old 06-17-2017, 05:11 PM
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On this subject, I have discovered that my new M4, on its way from Germany right now, has 3 wheel/tire options; 18", 19", 20". The tires specified for the 18" & 20" wheels yield a rear tire diameter of 26.5". Which happens to be just right for the Bimmerzone space saver spare. It also is just right, for a limited slip differential if one has to swap a rear flat. A larger diameter tire on the front presents no mechanical harm to the vehicle, it just looks silly. But, the tires for the 19" wheel, produce a diameter of just a smidgen under 26". That can be a problem if someone has to drive a long way across a desert to get to help, on a rear space saver, on an M4.
My M4 has 19" staggered wheels. I am arranging at this very moment to order 10mm larger tread width tires all around, to be installed, the day I pick up my car. Which will give me rear tires/wheels of 26.5". I only need to verify Tire Rack's assurance that those sizes will fit my M4.
Plus, to address the question above; "Why change out stock showroom tires?". Because they are cheaply made, have notoriously poor tread wear, but stick like glue. This gives the test driver and/or future buyer the feeling that he is in a race car. But, they aren't much good in a severe rain storm or for long term mileage.
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Old 11-19-2017, 11:48 AM
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I'm also running the Conti Extreme Sport DWS tires and couldn't be happier with these tires. I run them 5psi higher than what the factory recommends on the doorsill sticker, if not the ride feels too soft.

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Old 11-19-2017, 11:49 AM
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I keep tire plugs and an inflator I made in the car. I have plugged the heck out of off-road tires in the sidewall and they will hold air enough to get you out of trouble, and have for me many times. If you have a blowout it probably means you haven't been paying attencion to the condition of your tires or heeding the warnings of your TPMS.

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Old 11-19-2017, 05:10 PM
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On this subject, I have discovered that my new M4, on its way from Germany right now, has 3 wheel/tire options; 18", 19", 20". The tires specified for the 18" & 20" wheels yield a rear tire diameter of 26.5". Which happens to be just right for the Bimmerzone space saver spare. It also is just right, for a limited slip differential if one has to swap a rear flat. A larger diameter tire on the front presents no mechanical harm to the vehicle, it just looks silly. But, the tires for the 19" wheel, produce a diameter of just a smidgen under 26". That can be a problem if someone has to drive a long way across a desert to get to help, on a rear space saver, on an M4.
My M4 has 19" staggered wheels. I am arranging at this very moment to order 10mm larger tread width tires all around, to be installed, the day I pick up my car. Which will give me rear tires/wheels of 26.5". I only need to verify Tire Rack's assurance that those sizes will fit my M4.
Plus, to address the question above; "Why change out stock showroom tires?". Because they are cheaply made, have notoriously poor tread wear, but stick like glue. This gives the test driver and/or future buyer the feeling that he is in a race car. But, they aren't much good in a severe rain storm or for long term mileage.
I'm surprised this thread is still alive. Well, I have to correct my above calculation. I must have punched the wrong key on my calculator. All stock tires, regardless of rim diameter, are within reasonable tolerances of 26.5" diameter. Thus, the above space saver will work perfectly on any stock size tire shod M4.
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:23 AM
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Does the space saver tire actually mount in the trunk in the tire well? My car has the battery and electronics there...
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Old 09-26-2018, 09:44 AM
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There is no particular indentation/cavity for a spare on BMW cars. But, even the M4 has a cavernous trunk. With the tote wrapper, the spare will sit flat, along with other luggage in the back. You can get tie downs (a bit excessive, unless you plan on rolling the car and hitting a fix object). Or, you can use bungie cords on the few rings in the trunk floor.
W/o scanning the entire thread again; note that the Bimmerzone spare saver comes with a spacer plate and extra long lug bolts. For clearance on one of the axles, front or rear, the spacer is necessary for the wheel to clear the caliper.
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Old 06-17-2019, 01:33 PM
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Question Replace Continental ContiProContact SSR 225/50r18 RFT?

My 2017 330iX GT has [only] just under 24k miles on it yet all four Continental ContiProContact SSR tires are at or near the tread wear indicator (so much so that at >70mph there's a noticeable vibration).

The Continental product page for this tire says they have a "Limited 40k Warranty" but I haven't had any luck with BMW or a Continental dealer with warranty coverage.

However, I'm thinking I probably don't want to stay with Continental Tires if the tread wear is that bad.

Any non-Continental run flat tire recommendations out there? Specifically, the tire size is 255/50 R18 99V M+S EXTRALOAD RADIAL TUBELESS.
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My 2017 330iX GT has [only] just under 24k miles on it yet all four Continental ContiProContact SSR tires are at or near the tread wear indicator (so much so that at >70mph there's a noticeable vibration).



The Continental product page for this tire says they have a "Limited 40k Warranty" but I haven't had any luck with BMW or a Continental dealer with warranty coverage.



However, I'm thinking I probably don't want to stay with Continental Tires if the tread wear is that bad.



Any non-Continental run flat tire recommendations out there? Specifically, the tire size is 255/50 R18 99V M+S EXTRALOAD RADIAL TUBELESS.


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