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Old 05-25-2017, 11:21 AM
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do not buy the Schwaben Engine Support Bar, too short

Hi guys,

ECSTuning advertises their engine support bar as it fits every full size or wide body cars, but that information is FALSE!
The length of the bar is 61". The shortest that would work on our cars is 62.5", but 63-64 is recommended.

I posted this question on their website on the specific product page and it never went public. Shame on them.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-schwaben.../010049sch01a/
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That's disapointing , looks like a nice bar . Reckon they never tried it on an e60 .
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Yes, I guess so. And still no response to my question. Nor has it appeared on the product's page.


I ended up buying this cheap stuff:
Astro 5820 Engine Transverse Bar with Support Arm

paid $57.5 for it total. ECS Tuning wanted to ship their $140 bar for $50.

The bar has 4-5 inches of overlap when extended to the width E60 needs and I stood on it, looks strong enough. I might add better hooks though because I want to lift the engine with them.
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I used one that looks exactly the same . The bar will deflect some and will only support the engine , not lift the engine . You will run out of adjustment as you tighten the j hook . The bar will deflect and drop down and get really close to the top of the intake manifold . so it will limit the amount of lift you will get out of the bar . It was just enough to pull the motor mount out when I did the alt gasket ..
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I used one that looks exactly the same . The bar will deflect some and will only support the engine , not lift the engine . You will run out of adjustment as you tighten the j hook . The bar will deflect and drop down and get really close to the top of the intake manifold . so it will limit the amount of lift you will get out of the bar . It was just enough to pull the motor mount out when I did the alt gasket ..
Same product, only the color is different.

Ok, thanks for the heads up. I may end up modifying the legs then. Although I don't need more than clearing the engine mounts.
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Reporting back, the bar worked well.

I taped the legs so they don't scratch the body and the bars are horizontal.

I didn't like the 3rd leg, so I ended up using a different method, see pictures. I used the yellow bar to hold both engine hooks in the front left and the rear right. The clamp in the middle isn't really needed since the yellow bar is balanced.
See how much I could lift with it on the picture with the engine mount. It doesn't clear the mount completely but with a little modification, it becomes doable. I lowered the subframe later, so it wasn't needed.
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I got mine today and test fit it on my e60. I have to drop the subframe to get to the oil pan since these N54's eat the serpentine belts. Once I bolt back on the hood latches it's going to work fine. The again I bought the 4 point support since I already measured everything and new the bar alone wouldn't fit. It's going to work just fine.
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Hmmm, I just used this super-cheap Harbor Freight style (bought it for $50 on clearance at KMS Tools in Canada) support bar on My E61 to remove the turbos and it worked great. I can measure it again but the length was fine. Sure it would have been nice if it was a bit longer but you actually need it so far forward to be over the engine attachment point that it's nicer to allow the bar's feet to angle behind the headlights. When I had read other posts talking about others' experiences with the Harbor Freight support bar I was concerned this wouldn't work. It held my engine up for 10 days just fine.

I also had zero concerns about it tipping over as some others had expressed. I had no third arm and certainly didn't feel like I needed one as it felt extremely solid. I have a few more photos up on a thread at 5series.
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