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I am going to look at this, this weekend. $550 for the engine, tranny and ECU. I am so excited.
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One big question will be whether it runs, and if so, how tired is it? Are you planning a full rebuild?
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One big question will be whether it runs, and if so, how tired is it? Are you planning a full rebuild?
Unfortunately, I won't be able to see it run because the engine has already been pulled. The seller has assured me that the engine was running well before he pulled it. For $550 I am willing to trust the seller and take a chance, plus I was planing to rebuild what ever engine I ended up getting any way.
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Good plan. It wouldn't be worth the trouble if you were just going to install a rusty 225hp cast iron 5.0L in your car.
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Good plan. It wouldn't be worth the trouble if you were just going to install a rusty 225hp cast iron 5.0L in your car.
Depending on how my budget looks, I want to install a top end kit on the 5.0L and hit 300HP+ with it. Once I start doing everything, I will have a better idea of whether or not I can do that this summer or if that will be next summer's project. Either way, going from my little 168HP straight six to a torquey V8 with a lest 57 more HP should feel amazing.
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They now have a 340? I'm so lost in the numbers of the 3 series
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If you want to be even more confused, I am making my car a 350is.

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Whaaaa? No, not that I know of.
It is true, but it has a 3.0L engine, so it is a 340 the same way my e36 with a stock 2.5L engine is a 323.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...t-its-now-340i
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So my buddy picked up a bmw this weekend. 2011 328i. Super clean, interior is black and looks brand new.
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It is true, but it has a 3.0L engine, so it is a 340 the same way my e36 with a stock 2.5L engine is a 323.
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...t-its-now-340i
Why does that piss me off so much? BMW model designations mean nothing these days. It's just a hodgepodge of numbers relating to nothing but marketing strategy. And I believe it started with the '96 318, which was really a 319. Then the 323 that was really a 325.....and now it's just gone rampant. Got a 2 liter 4 cylinder twin-scroll-turboed 4 series? (because, God forbid, we can't call a 3 coupe a 3 any more!) Call it a 428i! 28 WHAT?

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Why does that piss me off so much? BMW model designations mean nothing these days. It's just a hodgepodge of numbers relating to nothing but marketing strategy. And I believe it started with the '96 318, which was really a 319. Then the 323 that was really a 325.....and now it's just gone rampant. Got a 2 liter 4 cylinder twin-scroll-turboed 4 series? (because, God forbid, we can't call a 3 coupe a 3 any more!) Call it a 428i! 28 WHAT?



BMW's model numbering has just gotten insanely out of control. When your dedicated brand enthusiast group (us) can't keep track of it, it's got to mean the general public can't figure it out at all. I think they're diluting their brand value and they should have spun off a sub brand like Toyota did with Scion.
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From what I've read, Scion has largely been a failure.
Just depends on how you look at it. They've sold just a touch over 1M Scion's in the US and managed to create a brand segregation without having to incur the capital cost of building new dealerships. If you assume a $15K average retail price per car that's about $36B of incremental revenue. Even if you assume half those buyers would have bought a Toyota if Scion wasn't available, that's still $18B added revenue.
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BMW's model numbering has just gotten insanely out of control. When your dedicated brand enthusiast group (us) can't keep track of it, it's got to mean the general public can't figure it out at all. I think they're diluting their brand value and they should have spun off a sub brand like Toyota did with Scion.
How is BMW actually doing lately? I mean we sit here and cry apocalypse because they're building every car for every man these days, but now that I think of it I don't actually know whether that has been beneficial for the company as a whole.

It certainly seems like they have abandoned the motto of "ultimate driving machine" for "build a car for every single market segment" which is definitely going to dilute their brand image. I was reading an article in Jalopnik last night about how Nissan shows potential but still hasn't found it's image or "what it means to be a Nissan" because they have Motorsport themed commercials and sell cars with CVTs in them.

10 or so years ago, right when thing started to go down hill with the X3 and X5 coming onto the market, everyone knew what "a BMW" was. Whatever shape you got it in, it was going to be the most exciting, "driver oriented" car in that segment you could buy, and also be fairly luxurious.

Now I have no idea how to describe BMW other than "they sell lots of expensive cars."

That being said, I don't know if anyone outside the enthusiast and journalist world actually gives a crap, so I wonder if there is really any effect on real world sales.

I would say I think that BMW has wounded itself in the long game, and that your idea of a spin off brand could've allowed them to fill every niche in the market while preserving the BMW name for the 3/5/7 + roadster classic lineup, but I really don't know if it would make any difference.

It seems like BMW is in a transition period. Up until the mid-2000s they made a product with a clear identity and purpose and their customers expected that. Now I feel like they're moving X3s because the 35 year old with 2 kids remembers the E30 poster he had on his wall as a kid and wants to capture a bit of that magic by seeing that badge on his mom-mobile.

HOWEVER, they're also kicking off their newest product line with the i8 and i3, and the i8 seems to have really made a splash with people, I couldn't believe Clarkson actually liked it. Maybe the i8 is the bedroom wall poster for this generation of children who will grow up and buy electric/hybrid BMWs in the next 10-20 years. The company will do fine.
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Why cant they use the last two numbers represent how many liters the engine has? They used to do that and it wasn't confusing.
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Depending on how my budget looks, I want to install a top end kit on the 5.0L and hit 300HP+ with it. Once I start doing everything, I will have a better idea of whether or not I can do that this summer or if that will be next summer's project. Either way, going from my little 168HP straight six to a torquey V8 with a lest 57 more HP should feel amazing.
Easier and cheaper to supercharge your car and make more than 300 hp. The 5.0 swaps are not worth the time and money spent swapping them IMO.






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Why cant they use the last two numbers represent how many liters the engine has? They used to do that and it wasn't confusing.
Because they have turbo and non turbo engines. The Turbo engines make more power than the non turbo so they get a bigger number yet it's a smaller engine.
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Easier and cheaper to supercharge your car and make more than 300 hp. The 5.0 swaps are not worth the time and money spent swapping them IMO.
Considering the engine, tranny, ect form the mustang is only costing me $550 and a good supercharger kit from Active Autowerke costs $4,900, I think I am going to spend a lot less on the 5.0L than a supercharger. Also the AA kit makes 310HP and 300 ft-lbs of torque. The 5.0L engine makes 300 ft-lbs of torque stock and one top end kit latter will be around the same 310HP mark. Lastly you can't deny the shear awesome factor of having an american V8 in a BMW.
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I'll bet by by the time you're finished with the swap you'll have around 4k in it.

Rebuild engine?
Clutch
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You can pick up a used supercharger kit and make good power. Shoot CJ made 500 whp on E85.

I love American V8s, just not old, heavy, underpowered mustang engines.

If you said an LS motor or a new Coyote motor, I'd be more enthused.
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Yeah, I'm leaning in your direction, Matt. As it currently stands, that engine is nothing more than an old hunk of metal that will need lots of money (i.e., thousands) dumped into it to make it even worth swapping into an E36. And what does a fully dressed 5.0L weigh with the stock cast iron heads?
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So give or take, maybe twice the weight. A little ballast for the rear?
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