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Old 01-22-2019, 08:55 AM
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Hello, I had hit a lady from behind going maybe 3 mph. There is virtually no damage other then the taillights cracked. I told her I would pay privately out of pocket, she agreed. She just got a quote back for $2600. I know this can not be correct. Can someone with looking at these photos, be able to guess a realistic quote. I know $2600 is far to high. I live in Columbus, Ohio. Does anyone have a body shop here that can fix this lady's car for much cheaper? Thank you

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Old 01-22-2019, 09:12 AM
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it can be done for less. but if want proper BMW procedures sound about right-
there is different quality of paint.
since the bumper need to be repainted - these usually requires paint to be blended into the QT panels.

good luck, let your insurance take care of it.

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Old 01-22-2019, 11:16 AM
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Hello, I had hit a lady from behind going maybe 3 mph. There is virtually no damage other then the taillights cracked. I told her I would pay privately out of pocket, she agreed. She just got a quote back for $2600. I know this can not be correct. Can someone with looking at these photos, be able to guess a realistic quote. I know $2600 is far to high. I live in Columbus, Ohio. Does anyone have a body shop here that can fix this lady's car for much cheaper? Thank you

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Can you provide the quote details?
I don't believe the bottom bumper cover can be painted so it would have to be replaced. It also has a sensor that was impacted. Does it still work? The upper bumper cover can be repainted, but as mentioned, it is not your standard honda civic paint process. The reflector is the small thin "light" that is completely smashed. It is not expensive(I got mine for $10 and pops off/on simply). The actual tail light has a crack in it. Did you confirm with her that that is new(your) damage as it appears well above the impact?

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Old 01-22-2019, 11:44 AM
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Can you provide the quote details?
I don't believe the bottom bumper cover can be painted so it would have to be replaced. It also has a sensor that was impacted. Does it still work? The upper bumper cover can be repainted, but as mentioned, it is not your standard honda civic paint process. The reflector is the small thin "light" that is completely smashed. It is not expensive(I got mine for $10 and pops off/on simply). The actual tail light has a crack in it. Did you confirm with her that that is new(your) damage as it appears well above the impact?

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Thank you for noticing that, definitely looks like it was cracked before. Here are the specific quote details

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Old 01-22-2019, 11:46 AM
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Old 01-22-2019, 11:49 AM
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The prices look great for replacement. Can they not repair the bumper cover? Labor rate is $52/hr. I would LOVE to have that around here. The only questionable thing would be the tail light assembly but I doubt they will say it was old damage...

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Old 01-22-2019, 12:01 PM
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Thank you for noticing that, definitely looks like it was cracked before. Here are the specific quote details

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Is this quote from a bmw dealer or indy? If indy, call your local bmw dealer and get the prices for all the parts and see where you're at. I would do that just for the piece of mind that everyone is being honest. Also request the owner to get another quote from bmw if it was indy. Will probably be even more but ya never know...

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Old 01-22-2019, 12:07 PM
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I just don't see how anything but the taillights need replaced. She is refusing to get the bumper repaired, however wants it replaced instead. Just don't even see how a body shop can look at those pictures and the actual car and have it be $2700. The bumper does NOT need replaced whatsoever. I was going a couple miles per hour at most. That quote is from Achbach auto body.
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:09 PM
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Yeah that sucks but you're at her mercy if not involving insurance. Insurance would probably deny the replacement and cover repair.

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Old 01-22-2019, 12:14 PM
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Also, the bumper "skin" (bottom section) is a replacement. They're typically not repaired so that is fair. The only thing you could argue would be the bumper cover repair vs replace but again, you're stuck here. Piss her off and she could easily start the insurance claim and there's nothing you can do about it then.

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Old 01-22-2019, 12:26 PM
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You think the bumper skin needs replaced? I don't even see any damage to it. You've been amazing so far thank you
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:36 PM
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You think the bumper skin needs replaced? I don't even see any damage to it. You've been amazing so far thank you
It is very hard to differentiate in the picture between damage, dirt and reflection. Being that my BMW doesn't have a scratch on it, one scratch to this part would be enough to make me have it replaced. If it were on my truck, I wouldn't care, but my baby is a different story. Click image for larger version

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Old 01-23-2019, 08:46 AM
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you can also bring down the price a bit by using a used bumper- body shop have access to these items, also for the taillight.

your insurance will not go up by 2k - is not worth the out of pocket
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Old 01-23-2019, 03:38 PM
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The labour rate is fantastic. It's about double that here.

Honestly - this is something to do via insurance. The cost is going to be too great. This happens a lot, TBH. I knew someone who rear ended a car going MAYBE 5 km/h (3.1 mph) and it was over $4K in damage. Speed isn't the issue, it's the damage. Whether the dent is small or big, whether something was cracked 1 inch or 1 foot, the replacement cost remains the same either way.
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Old 01-23-2019, 04:39 PM
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The labour rate is fantastic. It's about double that here.

Honestly - this is something to do via insurance. The cost is going to be too great. This happens a lot, TBH. I knew someone who rear ended a car going MAYBE 5 km/h (3.1 mph) and it was over $4K in damage. Speed isn't the issue, it's the damage. Whether the dent is small or big, whether something was cracked 1 inch or 1 foot, the replacement cost remains the same either way.
+1 on the amazing labor rate, pending they do good work.

I, personally, would eat the out of pocket expense. In my line of work, a clean driving history is very important and it would be worth it. I wish there was a way of calling insurance companies and asking how much your rates "may" go up with a claim but then you plant the seed that you had an accident. They wont care about the details regarding speed, it's either fault or no fault. From my experience when getting insurance quotes, most companies ask about claims within the last 3 or 5 years. That being said, it could effect your rates for that long. Would it be more or less than the out of pocket? Does the OP care about an accident on their MVR(motor vehicle report)?

OP has to research and consider these things when making this decision. Also keep in mind that the estimate has potential to increase once they start removing parts. Sometimes the is more damage than noticeable from the outside.

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Old 01-24-2019, 10:20 AM
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I, personally, would eat the out of pocket expense. In my line of work, a clean driving history is very important and it would be worth it. I wish there was a way of calling insurance companies and asking how much your rates "may" go up with a claim but then you plant the seed that you had an accident. They wont care about the details regarding speed, it's either fault or no fault. From my experience when getting insurance quotes, most companies ask about claims within the last 3 or 5 years. That being said, it could effect your rates for that long. Would it be more or less than the out of pocket? Does the OP care about an accident on their MVR(motor vehicle report)?

OP has to research and consider these things when making this decision. Also keep in mind that the estimate has potential to increase once they start removing parts. Sometimes the is more damage than noticeable from the outside.
Yes, figuring out what the insurance implications are is a good idea. Personally, I have accident forgiveness insurance, so if I get involved in an at-fault accident, it does not increase my rates and doesn't show up on my insurance record.
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:49 AM
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Yes, figuring out what the insurance implications are is a good idea. Personally, I have accident forgiveness insurance, so if I get involved in an at-fault accident, it does not increase my rates and doesn't show up on my insurance record.
The MVR is maintained by the state department of motor vehicles. An at fault accident will absolutely show on your record. The forgiveness part is between you and your insurance carrier regarding the premium only.

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Old 01-24-2019, 11:44 AM
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Agreed on all accounts. It's up to her as it is her car and not her fault, the bumpers are typically replace not repair, and that's not outrageous for the work to be with OEM parts... The only reason it might be higher is I would expect that amount from the dealer associated repair shop. Low MPH or not, you never know what needs replaced underneath the bumper cover.

Depending on your insurance and record, this would make you lose any safe driving discount and potentially also make you subject to a "penalty fee" (isn't that what we pay for insurance for?) for being in an accident. I had an accident, lost my safe driving discount for 5 years, and am penalized for 3. Total cost for the penalization is at least $600 a year IIRC.
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The MVR is maintained by the state department of motor vehicles. An at fault accident will absolutely show on your record. The forgiveness part is between you and your insurance carrier regarding the premium only.
Yes, but that's only if it's reported to the police, and the police then report it to the government's motor vehicles department. I don't know about where you guys live, but here, it's very rare that it gets reported. It can only be reported if a fine is issued, that being for "causing a motor vehicle accident", usually $78.00. Unless alcohol, excessive speed or something to that effect is a factor, police here generally won't issue those tickets for "accidents" that just accidents.

Again, that's here where I live though. Could be different where you live.
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