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Old 03-09-2019, 10:30 AM
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Manual Fan setting acting weird.

When I run my AC/Heat system in manual mode I noticed that the flow selector button on the passenger side doesnít go to the ďall 3 onĒ position that the driver side does. I can get feet, mid but not face.
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Old 03-12-2019, 06:53 AM
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When I run my AC/Heat system in manual mode I noticed that the flow selector button on the passenger side doesn't go to the "all 3 on" position that the driver side does. I can get feet, mid but not face.
Anyone else have this issue?


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What you're referring to as "face" is windows (defrost/defog to most of us) which can only operated manually on the driver's side in F3X cars.


*I did not make this up, it's in the manual.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:16 PM
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No, Iím talking about this in my 435:
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Old 03-15-2019, 03:05 AM
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Manual Fan setting acting weird.

Iím not seeing what you think the problem is. The driver side controls the top of the dash (defroster) in manual mode for both sides. The passenger side upper vents will never light up like the pic on the right selector button shows in your car.



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Old 03-15-2019, 08:49 AM
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The manual doesnít support that. It doesnít distinguish a difference in the function of the left and right manual mills knob.
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Old 03-15-2019, 10:24 AM
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The manual doesnít support that. It doesnít distinguish a difference in the function of the left and right manual mills knob.
I don't know...seems pretty clear to me:
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:40 PM
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I don't know...seems pretty clear to me:



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Old 03-15-2019, 11:11 PM
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Then why does the button on the right side show the same three flow directions?


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Old 03-16-2019, 04:09 AM
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Then why does the button on the right side show the same three flow directions?


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The BMW engineers did it that way just to mess with you.


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Old 03-17-2019, 10:18 AM
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When I run my AC/Heat system in manual mode I noticed that the flow selector button on the passenger side doesnít go to the ďall 3 onĒ position that the driver side does. I can get feet, mid but not face.
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It doesn't go to all three on nor does it go to just windshield. It's not an issue...or a problem. Just a safety feature that gives the driver control over defogging both sides of the windshield. If you want air directed to your face try opening and adjusting the vents.
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:10 AM
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That's all you got? As smart as you are? ***129315;
Face it, you don't know what you are talking about. The right button should blow the vents in the same three directions as the left. I'm pretty sure BMW is not that stupid to have a button not do what it says it will. Mine must not be working correctly which coming off of warranty soon I would like to have fixed.


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I didn't come here to fight with you. I actually wanted to be helpful because I'm at least smart enough enough to be able to read a manual and understand the concept of the way the system works.

Now I wish I just told you to do a search like most people would:

https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...ight=defroster

Please post your paperwork here after you take it to your dealership to fix a problem which doesn't exist.
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Well, one thing we can agree on is itís not well thought out with pictures on the buttons.

Good luck.


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Old 03-17-2019, 01:41 PM
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Almost all of us figured out how to operate the air handling system on their 3 series car. It works so well on Auto I rarely put it on manual. When I do the pictograms show the way. One of us is arguing for the sake of reading himself online. Much as a 5th grader would do.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:46 PM
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Ok, before guns are drawn at the OK Coral, I checked both my 2016 428i GC and my 2019 230i and both only show 2 lighted bars on the passenger side and 3 on the driver's side. My take on why the passenger button shows 3 bars is the control panel is the same panel for the right-hand drive cars, so BMW doesnít have to make two different panels for the right and left hand drive cars.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:58 PM
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Ok, before guns are drawn at the OK Coral, I checked both my 2016 428i GC and my 2019 230i and both only show 2 lighted bars on the passenger side and 3 on the driver's side. My take on why the passenger button shows 3 bars is the control panel is the same panel for the right-hand drive cars, so BMW doesnít have to make two different panels for the right and left hand drive cars.


That sounds plausible. BMW continuously goes cheap on 65k cars.
Speaking of that, howís your 428 holding up and how many miles?


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Old 03-17-2019, 02:25 PM
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That sounds plausible. BMW continuously goes cheap on 65k cars.
Speaking of that, howís your 428 holding up and how many miles?


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My 428i GC is doing well; did have a Drivetrain malfunction warning which disappeared at shutting off and re-starting. Had it checked out and turned out the sensor for the A/C pump was malfunctioning and pressure was getting too high. Also had them do the door lock actuator repair. Other than that, at 24000 miles, it has been good. Replaced tires at 20000 miles with DriveGuard which has done well - car is my wifeís DD and sheís a ďsomewhatĒ sedate driver. I do prefer driving my DD 230i as it drives more connected like my previous E46.
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Old 03-17-2019, 03:18 PM
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Thanks for the report. I have 11,500 miles on my 2016 435 GC. Whatís the door lock issue? Iím surprised we havenít had to get the airbags recalled yet.


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Old 03-17-2019, 05:26 PM
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Thanks for the report. I have 11,500 miles on my 2016 435 GC. Whatís the door lock issue? Iím surprised we havenít had to get the airbags recalled yet.


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This is going off topic from the original issue but the door lock actuator has been a common problem with the F3x series. I only had a one time occurrence but on my 2nd service, I mentioned it to my S.A. and he wrote up a repair ticket. Doesnít hurt that the master tech there is a friend, haha!
Here's a link and you could also do a thread search: https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...lock+mechanism
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Thanks for the link. Good to know. Not surprised.


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No John, one of us likes things to make perfect sense, and then there is you.
The first 3 bullet points contradict the last two in the manual on what the manual flow button does. On top of that, the picture on the button doesnít accurately represent reality.


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Functionally, BMW doesnít want passengers turning off defog/defrost when the driver might still need it. That should always be the driverís decision.

Yes, BMW is obviously saving some money by using the same button. To be fair, itís more than just another button. Itís the whole supply chain, storage, assembly/installation, and software systems that would be affected, with potential additional issues all along the way. Lots of cars have buttons that donít do anything. Pretty sure my steering wheel has buttons for features which I didnít purchase, in fact.
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Manual Fan setting acting weird.

All I know is that my other two carís HVAC systems work much better.



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