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Old 09-08-2017, 03:06 AM
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Buying Used E84 x1/Timing chain

I came across a fair number of scary stories about complete engine failures in the N20 engines because of some plastic/timing chain related issues. Often in the 5th year or 6th years in the 53k-80k miles range. Apparently the engine is often a total loss and the replacement cost for engine and labor is in the $18k-$20k range.

There's a facebook group, random blog posts (http://www.rightfootdown.com/cars/au...nents-n26-too/). Most of the accounts I've seen are 328's or X3's, but with the same engine as the X1.

How much of a problem is this for the X1s? Kinda scary that as of Sept 1, 2017 (last week) they halved the extra warranty coverage you get with a CPO purchase. As you might imagine the specter of a $20k loss on a 5-6 year car is pretty scary.

I found this update in 2016:
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=937579

I'd like to get an E84 X1 (not a fan of the FWD biased+electric steering 2016 X1), but the majority of X1 2015's are actually build before Jan 1st 2015. The one I just checked was Oct 14th, warranty until Oct 2018 (14 months from now). I guess I could get an X3, the the size/handling of the X1 appeals to me. I'm hoping for something close to the WRX handling wise.

Other examples on bimmerfest include someone selling a 2013 X3, first comment was "lucky to sell it before the timing chain broke", other threads on bimmerfest with titles "2013 X3 Timing Chain", "Hello my 2013 BMW X3 28i engine just died", and "N20 Timing Chain failure Drivetrain malfunction. BMW F25 X3 2013 53,000 miles" each with a bunch of followups from other people with blown engines. Even a spreadsheet with 30 or so similar engine failures.

I'm particularly sensitive to this issue because my 2004 subaru had the dreaded gasket problem, while expensive to fix it was nothing like $20k.

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Old 09-08-2017, 04:21 AM
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Old 09-28-2017, 09:29 AM
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Extended warranty on timing chain

As of 9/21/2017, BMW extended the warranty on the timing chain and drive chain for the oil pump on the N20/6 engines to 7 years / 70K miles from first in-service date. Not sure whether it applies to all E84 X1s, but it does to my 2013 model sdrive28i. You can check to see if a car is covered by entering the last 7 characters of the VIN number here: http://www.bmw-rp.com/production/isg...nsf/submit.xsp
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:44 PM
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Huh... shows up for me. Was the letter sent out a long time ago? I guess I wouldn't have gotten one, buying it used. I did get the thermostat one.

So, does that mean, though, that they won't do anything unless it breaks? I guess they figure that it'll work for most people?
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Old 10-01-2017, 11:58 AM
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As of 9/21/2017, BMW extended the warranty on the timing chain and drive chain for the oil pump on the N20/6 engines to 7 years / 70K miles from first in-service date.
Since I haven't received no letters for my X1 sDrive 2014 for the thermostat and time chain issues, I talked to a Service Advisors at the BMW dealership about the time chain since I took care the thermostat on my own and apply for the part reimbursement, he said when it fail (if it fail) BMW would take care of the problem. Now he did not know all the specifics and data above. Could you post the time chain letter on this Forum, it would be a great help to be able to understand all that verbiage.

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Old 11-11-2017, 08:45 PM
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Our BMW X1 2012 just stoped on us while driving on the hwy the car has only 65000km the engine oil pump failed and timing chain jumped causing engine to fail, no warning so now the engine needs to be replaced they quoted us at Georgian BMW Barrie On. $25,000 canadian(twenty five thousand) and BMW will not replace the engine. This is happening with other models the Internet is full of threads on this on other models so it's obviously a defective engine with no quality assurance. We could have had a very bad accident. We are loyal costumers this is our secound Bmw and I can't believe that BMW will not stand by their product and do the rigth thing by fixing the car, instead they are trying to make more money by charging us this ridiculous amount more that the car itself. This is our ultimate nightmare experience!
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Use the link already posted to see if your engine/timing chain is covered:

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Left side DRL not working and left side rear view mirror not folding

Left side DRL not working and left side rear view mirror not folding.

Can any one provide me wiring diagram and description (Voltages on pin)
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:57 PM
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Left side DRL not working and left side rear view mirror not folding.

Can any one provide me wiring diagram and description (Voltages on pin)
Not a Mod but you're posting about a wiring diagram in a thread for the timing chain. Best to start fresh.
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